Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Pointless character much in the way Qui-Gon is.

I know, I know, a lot of you think because a good actor portrays him that Qui-Gon is 'all that' but what does he really do? He's a Jedi, but he's not. He cheats. Most every call he makes goes wrong. And he dies at the end. His purpose is only to bring that little boy into the fray... so he's a reckless Jedi that talks mumbo-jumbo about minding the living Force, and the uses that Force to cheat Watto. Real Good Jedi. It's his fault the galaxy got Vader.

Qui-Gon was annoyed by Jar Jar from the beginning; so if nothing else, he was relatable.

For me, Qui-Gon was one of the only dignified and respectable elements in an otherwise excessively juvenile and embarrassing film. And I like how he represented a departure from traditional Jedi who would prefer to sit around and not engage problems more directly. The film made it clear that Qui-Gon was more of a rebel Jedi; all too ready to take risks and be proactive. That helps set him apart, and at least gives him unique character.

As far as what he actually did in the movie: he escaped Gunray's gas/droid death trap, then led the effort that initially freed the Queen and her handmaidens, freed a child slave, secured the means to leave Tatooine and finish out their mission, and he battled Maul twice (though obviously unsuccessful that second time). Plus, I love when he sat in meditation as Maul paced back and forth when that red energy field thing separated them briefly. That was an awesome moment both visually and symbolically.

Qui-Gon remains one of the lone TPM bright spots for me in a mess of insultingly bad things like Jar Jar, little Ani, Boss Nass, the pod race announcer(s), the other pod race hijinks, the ethnic accents . . . and on and on.


The ROTS boat left me on the island. I just don't see how it is more watchable than the other two.

Same here.

Anytime Grievous is onscreen it becomes unwatchable.

Anakin vs Obi-Wan starts off good then it goes off the rails.

Agree with these two.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

My son pointed me to this video (yes, he hates TLJ), and I must say, I think this guy makes some pretty good points.

 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Qui-Gon was annoyed by Jar Jar from the beginning; so if nothing else, he was relatable.

For me, Qui-Gon was one of the only dignified and respectable elements in an otherwise excessively juvenile and embarrassing film. And I like how he represented a departure from traditional Jedi who would prefer to sit around and not engage problems more directly. The film made it clear that Qui-Gon was more of a rebel Jedi; all too ready to take risks and be proactive. That helps set him apart, and at least gives him unique character.

As far as what he actually did in the movie: he escaped Gunray's gas/droid death trap, then led the effort that initially freed the Queen and her handmaidens, freed a child slave, secured the means to leave Tatooine and finish out their mission, and he battled Maul twice (though obviously unsuccessful that second time). Plus, I love when he sat in meditation as Maul paced back and forth when that red energy field thing separated them briefly. That was an awesome moment both visually and symbolically.

Qui-Gon remains one of the lone TPM bright spots for me in a mess of insultingly bad things like Jar Jar, little Ani, Boss Nass, the pod race announcer(s), the other pod race hijinks, the ethnic accents . . . and on and on.




Same here.



Agree with these two.

In the end Qui Gon’s rebel nature os what brings about the end of the Jedi Order and the rise of the galactic Empire.

He and Jar Jar are the most responsible for the fall of the Jedi and Republic.

Its attitudes like Qui Gon that the ST is trying to blame for the constant struggle with the Sith (darkside$


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

In the end Qui Gon’s rebel nature os what brings about the end of the Jedi Order and the rise of the galactic Empire.

He and Jar Jar are the most responsible for the fall of the Jedi and Republic.

Its attitudes like Qui Gon that the ST is trying to blame for the constant struggle with the Sith (darkside$

TPM showed that Qui Gon thought Anakin should be trained, Obi-Wan thought Anakin should be trained and ultimately the entire Jedi Council *except* for Yoda thought he should be trained. He was literally the one single Jedi Master shown who was *not* part of the problem and therefore totally immune to Luke's bull**** in TLJ. He was the one person capable of talking sense to him and Luke knew it.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TPM showed that Qui Gon thought Anakin should be trained, Obi-Wan thought Anakin should be trained and ultimately the entire Jedi Council *except* for Yoda thought he should be trained. He was literally the one single Jedi Master shown who was *not* part of the problem and therefore totally immune to Luke's bull**** in TLJ. He was the one person capable of talking sense to him and Luke knew it.

Qui Gon’s attitude was the amplified version of the Jedi council. Remember he was NOT on the council, yet they all listened to him. His “radical” nature kept him off the council, but its clear the majority of the council must be leaning more toward his radical nature , and less like Yodas conservative nature.

Jar Jar is the one who brings up the vote to give Palpatine emergency powers, which was tbe major step toward creating an Emperor.

So , Hubris, over confidence, rebellious nature and pure unadulterated stupidity created the Empire





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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And that really sums up prequel era Lucas himself there doesn't it, lol.

:rotfl Unfortunately.

But, even in the 80's, they always called Lucasfilm, and particularly Skywalker Ranch, "The Empire"... and there's a reason.

Disney IS the First Order.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TPM showed that Qui Gon thought Anakin should be trained, Obi-Wan thought Anakin should be trained and ultimately the entire Jedi Council *except* for Yoda thought he should be trained. He was literally the one single Jedi Master shown who was *not* part of the problem and therefore totally immune to Luke's bull**** in TLJ. He was the one person capable of talking sense to him and Luke knew it.

**** that smug little green ****. He was probably laughing his ass off when Ben turned and destroyed Luke's Jedi temple and murdered all the younglings.

watching it all burn.jpg
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

^^ That pic and expression looks like Yoda is saying: To me you do, as did I to you

You could add Luke's dialog from Empire. "I can't it's too big." and it would match Luke's face in that picture too. Your a bad man Porn-Gar
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Looking forward to this...had very little problem with TLJ......too many of you need lives:lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Another confession.



Ruiner the plagairist.

 
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