Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
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Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
I've been playing catch up reading the past few days of posts and am very confused. Cap now refers to his Han as Stormbreaker? So does it follow that Sam is his Luke and Sweet Rabbit is his Chewie? Obviously Bucky is his Leia.
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Sure you'd be swatting your wife away ''You're distracting me woman! Cap is about to wield Stormbreaker''
I've been playing catch up reading the past few days of posts and am very confused. Cap now refers to his Han as Stormbreaker? So does it follow that Sam is his Luke and Sweet Rabbit is his Chewie? Obviously Bucky is his Leia.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
This pic borderlines on pornographic....
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
This pic borderlines on pornographic....
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
The following may already have been posted, so please forgive me if so, but this guy's two fascinating video theories, if correct, would not only save the sequels but explain...
Who Rey is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVsyc1gUJM (would answer the Mary Sue issue as well.)
And
Why/how Luke did what he did - https://youtu.be/eyjAWgByhLg (would save Luke from Rian's assassination of our beloved character...)
The following may already have been posted, so please forgive me if so, but this guy's two fascinating video theories, if correct, would not only save the sequels but explain...
Who Rey is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVsyc1gUJM (would answer the Mary Sue issue as well.)
And
Why/how Luke did what he did - https://youtu.be/eyjAWgByhLg (would save Luke from Rian's assassination of our beloved character...)
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
That theory is the most convoluted, long winded nonsense I have heard.....
Only an uber SW nerd would be able to follow it in an sense....the movie public would be lost.
Therefore false.
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
That theory is the most convoluted, long winded nonsense I have heard.....
Only an uber SW nerd would be able to follow it in an sense....the movie public would be lost.
Therefore false.
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
I liked where his theories were going but I agree. Too complex to pan out. This guy is like the light-side reflection of snikt.
I liked where his theories were going but I agree. Too complex to pan out. This guy is like the light-side reflection of snikt.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Omg I thought the same thing.....
Besides the whole cloned hand thing was a theory way before TFA opened....
Some leak somewhere said the first shot would be Lukes saber and hand floating through space....
Its the first plot “leak” I remember hearing years back.
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
Omg I thought the same thing.....
Besides the whole cloned hand thing was a theory way before TFA opened....
Some leak somewhere said the first shot would be Lukes saber and hand floating through space....
Its the first plot “leak” I remember hearing years back.
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
hnnng.
I just realized a way that TLJ legitimately screwed up Leia. No, not the Mary Poppins thing and I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up before.
Spoiler tags for those who'd prefer to remain blissfully unaware.
Maybe we're supposed to assume that she was going senile. Also it's a little strange the Finn claimed that hyperspace tracking was impossible despite us later learning that he was the guy who apparently mopped the very device that *did* make it possible.
hnnng.
I just realized a way that TLJ legitimately screwed up Leia. No, not the Mary Poppins thing and I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up before.
Spoiler tags for those who'd prefer to remain blissfully unaware.
Finn: "They've tracked us, through hyperspace. But that's impossible."
Leia: " Yes. And they've done it."
Uh, rewind 40 years to ANH:
The Falcon escapes the Death Star, evades it's TIE Fighter pursuers, and blasts into hyperspace.
Leia: "They're tracking us."
She's known from the very first HOUR of the entire Saga that it was possible all along. You just need a homing beacon (which I wrongly assumed on my first viewing of TLJ that it had.) We're even reminded of this very fact in TFA when Han states the need for a "clean ship." You're killing me RJ.
Even Jyn Erso's comment in RO about "hyperspace tracking" in the Scarif vault can be seen as foreshadowing the events of ANH, *the very next film*, and NOT TLJ.
Leia: " Yes. And they've done it."
Uh, rewind 40 years to ANH:
The Falcon escapes the Death Star, evades it's TIE Fighter pursuers, and blasts into hyperspace.
Leia: "They're tracking us."
She's known from the very first HOUR of the entire Saga that it was possible all along. You just need a homing beacon (which I wrongly assumed on my first viewing of TLJ that it had.) We're even reminded of this very fact in TFA when Han states the need for a "clean ship." You're killing me RJ.
Even Jyn Erso's comment in RO about "hyperspace tracking" in the Scarif vault can be seen as foreshadowing the events of ANH, *the very next film*, and NOT TLJ.
Maybe we're supposed to assume that she was going senile. Also it's a little strange the Finn claimed that hyperspace tracking was impossible despite us later learning that he was the guy who apparently mopped the very device that *did* make it possible.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
and Vader agrees
and Vader agrees
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Yes, a-dev has joined the movie quote custom meme club.
Yes, a-dev has joined the movie quote custom meme club.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Here's a thought. What would Poe have said if Hux had asked him what the message about his mother was? Did Poe actually have an actual joke that he was saving up, lol.
Or would it have gone like this:
Poe: "And tell Hux that I have an urgent message...about his mother."
Hux: "Sigh, I'll bite, you're going to be dead in seconds anyway. What's the message?"
Poe: "Uhhh. Seriously? I assumed you'd just starting shooting at me."
Hux: "Wow. Real smooth jackass. OPEN FIRE!"
Here's a thought. What would Poe have said if Hux had asked him what the message about his mother was? Did Poe actually have an actual joke that he was saving up, lol.
Or would it have gone like this:
Poe: "And tell Hux that I have an urgent message...about his mother."
Hux: "Sigh, I'll bite, you're going to be dead in seconds anyway. What's the message?"
Poe: "Uhhh. Seriously? I assumed you'd just starting shooting at me."
Hux: "Wow. Real smooth jackass. OPEN FIRE!"
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
How does it screw up Leia? I'm pretty sure that everyone on her ship understands that homing beacons exist. Leia herself is wearing one around her wrist! Remember?
But homing beacons need to be placed on/in a ship in order to track it. In ANH, the Falcon was on the Death Star . . . where Imperial troops could get inside it and place a beacon. Why would Finn or Leia have thought that the FO, at any point whatsoever, could have gotten close enough to the Raddus to plant a beacon?
Basic beacon tech was shown before ANH would've taken place when Kenobi tossed one that attached itself to Slave I in AOTC. So, a more advanced version of that which could track across greater distances (like after a hyperspace jump) seems logical twenty years later in ANH. But someone would still have to access the target ship in order to plant one. And it'd probably need to be placed *inside* the ship so as not to get dislodged at lightspeed. Finn and Leia are presumably stunned because they'd know that the FO couldn't have planted a beacon on the Raddus.
The hyperspace tracking referenced in RO would likely be the kind without the need to plant an actual beacon. Because when they're fighting space battles, the Empire wouldn't exactly get to just send someone on a spacewalk to go plant a beacon on an opposing ship. I feel like I'm missing something here, Khev; maybe I just don't fully understand your objection in this case.
Are you saying that janitors should understand the functionality of the equipment in the areas they mop? I'm gonna take a wild leap of faith here and suggest that the janitors at leading-edge tech firms (like in Silicon Valley) wouldn't be told about the devices that they mop around. And if you asked one of those janitors to explain what those pieces of cutting-edge tech are supposed to be able to do, I don't think you'd get a very knowledgeable answer.
Finn was a rookie trooper. And he was actually a top-of-the-class kind (based on the novels). But before that, I assume every Stormtrooper-in-training has duties to do when not engaged in actual training. Finn apparently had janitorial detail. That doesn't mean he'd be privy to everything above his pay grade. Stormtroopers are the grunts; the FO (like the Empire) have a command crew and tech officers to run/maintain the logistical side.
How does it screw up Leia? I'm pretty sure that everyone on her ship understands that homing beacons exist. Leia herself is wearing one around her wrist! Remember?
But homing beacons need to be placed on/in a ship in order to track it. In ANH, the Falcon was on the Death Star . . . where Imperial troops could get inside it and place a beacon. Why would Finn or Leia have thought that the FO, at any point whatsoever, could have gotten close enough to the Raddus to plant a beacon?
Basic beacon tech was shown before ANH would've taken place when Kenobi tossed one that attached itself to Slave I in AOTC. So, a more advanced version of that which could track across greater distances (like after a hyperspace jump) seems logical twenty years later in ANH. But someone would still have to access the target ship in order to plant one. And it'd probably need to be placed *inside* the ship so as not to get dislodged at lightspeed. Finn and Leia are presumably stunned because they'd know that the FO couldn't have planted a beacon on the Raddus.
The hyperspace tracking referenced in RO would likely be the kind without the need to plant an actual beacon. Because when they're fighting space battles, the Empire wouldn't exactly get to just send someone on a spacewalk to go plant a beacon on an opposing ship. I feel like I'm missing something here, Khev; maybe I just don't fully understand your objection in this case.
Also it's a little strange the Finn claimed that hyperspace tracking was impossible despite us later learning that he was the guy who apparently mopped the very device that *did* make it possible.
Are you saying that janitors should understand the functionality of the equipment in the areas they mop? I'm gonna take a wild leap of faith here and suggest that the janitors at leading-edge tech firms (like in Silicon Valley) wouldn't be told about the devices that they mop around.
And if you asked one of those janitors to explain what those pieces of cutting-edge tech are supposed to be able to do, I don't think you'd get a very knowledgeable answer.Finn was a rookie trooper. And he was actually a top-of-the-class kind (based on the novels). But before that, I assume every Stormtrooper-in-training has duties to do when not engaged in actual training. Finn apparently had janitorial detail. That doesn't mean he'd be privy to everything above his pay grade. Stormtroopers are the grunts; the FO (like the Empire) have a command crew and tech officers to run/maintain the logistical side.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Did Leia mean it as in yes they’ve done it before?
I enjoyed that joke
hnnng.
I just realized a way that TLJ legitimately screwed up Leia. No, not the Mary Poppins thing and I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up before.
Spoiler tags for those who'd prefer to remain blissfully unaware.
Finn: "They've tracked us, through hyperspace. But that's impossible."
Leia: " Yes. And they've done it."
Uh, rewind 40 years to ANH:
The Falcon escapes the Death Star, evades it's TIE Fighter pursuers, and blasts into hyperspace.
Leia: "They're tracking us."
She's known from the very first HOUR of the entire Saga that it was possible all along. You just need a homing beacon (which I wrongly assumed on my first viewing of TLJ that it had.) We're even reminded of this very fact in TFA when Han states the need for a "clean ship." You're killing me RJ.
Even Jyn Erso's comment in RO about "hyperspace tracking" in the Scarif vault can be seen as foreshadowing the events of ANH, *the very next film*, and NOT TLJ.
Maybe we're supposed to assume that she was going senile. Also it's a little strange the Finn claimed that hyperspace tracking was impossible despite us later learning that he was the guy who apparently mopped the very device that *did* make it possible.
Did Leia mean it as in yes they’ve done it before?
Here's a thought. What would Poe have said if Hux had asked him what the message about his mother was? Did Poe actually have an actual joke that he was saving up, lol.
Or would it have gone like this:
Poe: "And tell Hux that I have an urgent message...about his mother."
Hux: "Sigh, I'll bite, you're going to be dead in seconds anyway. What's the message?"
Poe: "Uhhh. Seriously? I assumed you'd just starting shooting at me."
Hux: "Wow. Real smooth jackass. OPEN FIRE!"
I enjoyed that joke
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Took alot of words right out of my mouth......
Tracking beacon is not the same as tracking through hyperspace. After all the needed Fett to follow the MF to Bespin....
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How does it screw up Leia? I'm pretty sure that everyone on her ship understands that homing beacons exist. Leia herself is wearing one around her wrist! Remember?
But homing beacons need to be placed on/in a ship in order to track it. In ANH, the Falcon was on the Death Star . . . where Imperial troops could get inside it and place a beacon. Why would Finn or Leia have thought that the FO, at any point whatsoever, could have gotten close enough to the Raddus to plant a beacon?
Basic beacon tech was shown before ANH would've taken place when Kenobi tossed one that attached itself to Slave I in AOTC. So, a more advanced version of that which could track across greater distances (like after a hyperspace jump) seems logical twenty years later in ANH. But someone would still have to access the target ship in order to plant one. And it'd probably need to be placed *inside* the ship so as not to get dislodged at lightspeed. Finn and Leia are presumably stunned because they'd know that the FO couldn't have planted a beacon on the Raddus.
The hyperspace tracking referenced in RO would likely be the kind without the need to plant an actual beacon. Because when they're fighting space battles, the Empire wouldn't exactly get to just send someone on a spacewalk to go plant a beacon on an opposing ship. I feel like I'm missing something here, Khev; maybe I just don't fully understand your objection in this case.
Are you saying that janitors should understand the functionality of the equipment in the areas they mop? I'm gonna take a wild leap of faith here and suggest that the janitors at leading-edge tech firms (like in Silicon Valley) wouldn't be told about the devices that they mop around.
Finn was a rookie trooper. And he was actually a top-of-the-class kind (based on the novels). But before that, I assume every Stormtrooper-in-training has duties to do when not engaged in actual training. Finn apparently had janitorial detail. That doesn't mean he'd be privy to everything above his pay grade. Stormtroopers are the grunts; the FO (like the Empire) have a command crew and tech officers to run/maintain the logistical side.
Took alot of words right out of my mouth......
Tracking beacon is not the same as tracking through hyperspace. After all the needed Fett to follow the MF to Bespin....
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Because supposedly in Leia and Finn's mind that would be the only *possible* way they could be tracked through hyperspace. A rational non-insane human being doesn't immediately assume an impossible explanation when there are unlikely alternatives that actually *are* possible.
1. They realize they're being tracked through hyperspace (which happens all the time in SW.)
2. They know hyperspace tracking requires a homing beacon.
3. Find the damn beacon.
"Yes it would be impossible...without a homing beacon...planted by someone working for the First Order...." *all heads immediately turn and look at the ex-Stormtrooper standing in their midst.*
Why was there absolutely no rational discussion of physically possible scenarios even theorized at all? Like an FO droid sneaking onto the Falcon on Starkiller and then hiding with the Resistance when it landed, or investigating whether Phasma snuck a tracker into Finn's jacket, or again, whether Finn really wasn't who he claimed to be.
In the standalone films (RO and Solo) the characters are always thinking two steps ahead because those are the types of moves that characters smart enough to survive would make. Like the Alliance questioning whether ex-Imperials like Bodhi or Galen Erso were merely pretending to help them in order to lure them into an ambush. Or if Galen's daughter had similar secret motives. Val urging Beckett to anticipate Enfys Nest's next move, young Han planning for Beckett's double-cross. And so on.
But TLJ Leia never even attempts to explore all rational options. She just states that the FO magically can track a ship through hyperspace just by seeing it and is correct because that's what RJ put in the script. The fact that she's rewarded for her ridiculous assumption doesn't make her assumption any less ridiculous in the first place.
Imagine for a moment the scene in Return of the Jedi where Leia met Wicket in the forest. And then suddenly a laser blast shot out of the trees forcing her to dive for cover. Imagine if Wicket could speak English and said, "the trees are shooting laserblasts! But that's impossible." And Leia says, "Yes, and they've done it." She'd have to be an absolute moron to come to such a conclusion rather than just assuming that there's a sneaky Imperial lurking in the woods that she wasn't aware of. Of course if RJ wrote ROTJ then not only would she state that the trees were shooting at her but she'd actually be right!
Because supposedly in Leia and Finn's mind that would be the only *possible* way they could be tracked through hyperspace. A rational non-insane human being doesn't immediately assume an impossible explanation when there are unlikely alternatives that actually *are* possible.
1. They realize they're being tracked through hyperspace (which happens all the time in SW.)
2. They know hyperspace tracking requires a homing beacon.
3. Find the damn beacon.
"Yes it would be impossible...without a homing beacon...planted by someone working for the First Order...." *all heads immediately turn and look at the ex-Stormtrooper standing in their midst.*
Why was there absolutely no rational discussion of physically possible scenarios even theorized at all? Like an FO droid sneaking onto the Falcon on Starkiller and then hiding with the Resistance when it landed, or investigating whether Phasma snuck a tracker into Finn's jacket, or again, whether Finn really wasn't who he claimed to be.
In the standalone films (RO and Solo) the characters are always thinking two steps ahead because those are the types of moves that characters smart enough to survive would make. Like the Alliance questioning whether ex-Imperials like Bodhi or Galen Erso were merely pretending to help them in order to lure them into an ambush. Or if Galen's daughter had similar secret motives. Val urging Beckett to anticipate Enfys Nest's next move, young Han planning for Beckett's double-cross. And so on.
But TLJ Leia never even attempts to explore all rational options. She just states that the FO magically can track a ship through hyperspace just by seeing it and is correct because that's what RJ put in the script. The fact that she's rewarded for her ridiculous assumption doesn't make her assumption any less ridiculous in the first place.
Imagine for a moment the scene in Return of the Jedi where Leia met Wicket in the forest. And then suddenly a laser blast shot out of the trees forcing her to dive for cover. Imagine if Wicket could speak English and said, "the trees are shooting laserblasts! But that's impossible." And Leia says, "Yes, and they've done it." She'd have to be an absolute moron to come to such a conclusion rather than just assuming that there's a sneaky Imperial lurking in the woods that she wasn't aware of. Of course if RJ wrote ROTJ then not only would she state that the trees were shooting at her but she'd actually be right!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Today’s random TLJ thought-
Rose: “That's how we're gonna win. Not fighting what we hate. Saving what we love."
Also Rose: Idolizes her sister who bombs people as a career, tazes Finn for trying to save his best friend.
Today’s random TLJ thought-
Rose: “That's how we're gonna win. Not fighting what we hate. Saving what we love."
Also Rose: Idolizes her sister who bombs people as a career, tazes Finn for trying to save his best friend.
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