Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Today’s random TLJ thought-

Rose: “That's how we're gonna win. Not fighting what we hate. Saving what we love."

Also Rose: Idolizes her sister who bombs people as a career, tazes Finn for trying to save his best friend.

Rose has a literal mental disorder. One minute she wants to put her whole fist through a town filled with innocent child slaves, the next she wants to murder her friend for trying to save everybody. Then after failing to murder him she lectures him about saving people?!?
 
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Lets break down her accomplishments:

Saved: Horses

Left To Die: Slave children, last group of humans to save the galaxy


Horses 1
Humanity 0

lol
 
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Sorry to break up the Rose trashing, but I'll try to be brief (well, "brief" for me :))

Because supposedly in Leia and Finn's mind that would be the only *possible* way they could be tracked through hyperspace. A rational non-insane human being doesn't immediately assume an impossible explanation when there are unlikely alternatives that actually *are* possible.

As is explained in the film, the hyperspace tracking is an extension of conventional active tracking. It's a technology that has existed in a more primitive form, but that has now been expanded upon. It's essentially like using a quantum computer in our world (and we will), while active tracking is limited the same way current computer processors limit our options (for now). Saying that Leia wouldn't be able to understand that somehow the FO seemed to have advanced tracking technology to the next level is like saying that the first time someone uses a quantum processor here on Earth, we will accuse the user of being an evil wizard.

"Yes it would be impossible...without a homing beacon...planted by someone working for the First Order...." *all heads immediately turn and look at the ex-Stormtrooper standing in their midst.*

Finn was brought onboard the Raddus in a coma. He had no idea he'd ever be on that ship (or that it even existed). Wouldn't it be stupider to presume that the comatose ex-Stormtrooper who rescued Poe and helped destroy Starkiller Base would be a mole who was wearing a beacon?

But TLJ Leia never even attempts to explore all rational options. She just states that the FO magically can track a ship through hyperspace just by seeing it and is correct because that's what RJ put in the script. The fact that she's rewarded for her ridiculous assumption doesn't make her assumption any less ridiculous in the first place.

When teleportation of particles outside of particle accelerators becomes a reality, my thought will be, "wow, they figured it out!" I won't be thinking that something "magical" is at work; because I understand that conceptual technology expounds on existing tech until it eventually becomes reality. I don't have to be a quantum physicist to be able to conceptualize the extension of modern scientific applications which I don't have any personal role in advancing. So too, these characters in a Star Wars galaxy wouldn't have to make some crazy leap in logic to conceive of existing technology they're already familiar with reaching the next step in its evolution.

And lastly . . .

In the standalone films (RO and Solo) the characters are always thinking two steps ahead because those are the types of moves that characters smart enough to survive would make.

Uh oh! . . . Please don't use Solo as a SW example of how to show characters using sound logic and multi-level strategy effectively. That's a can of worms that would be better kept closed. :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Lets break down her accomplishments:

Saved: Horses

Left To Die: Slave children, last group of humans to save the galaxy


Horses 1
Humanity 0

lol

How many people did she say she had tazed? I wonder how many of them ultimately died from her friend DJ’s resistance-info sidewalk sale?
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

What could possibly redeem Rose in IX?

A. She’s a Sith Witch who eats children?
B. She’s a cunning double agent?
C. She sleeps with Kylo?
D. She gets eaten by a Rancor?
 
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Carbon freeze chamber 2.0.

Threepio: Rose should be quite well preserved if she survived the initial...

*flatline sound effect*

Ugnaught shrugs.
 
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Carbon freeze chamber 2.0.

Threepio: Rose should be quite well preserved if she survived the initial...

*flatline sound effect*

Ugnaught shrugs.

:lol :lol :lol

I am soooo confused over this homing beacon debate that i’m just going back to tweaking (not to be confused with twerking) my color gamut some more lol
 
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It’s sad that Episode 8 has ruined Star Wars even more than the prequels. Not excited for this at all...lord I hope I don’t ever have to see Rose again.
 
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As is explained in the film, the hyperspace tracking is an extension of conventional active tracking. It's a technology that has existed in a more primitive form, but that has now been expanded upon. It's essentially like using a quantum computer in our world (and we will), while active tracking is limited the same way current computer processors limit our options (for now). Saying that Leia wouldn't be able to understand that somehow the FO seemed to have advanced tracking technology to the next level is like saying that the first time someone uses a quantum processor here on Earth, we will accuse the user of being an evil wizard.

"Hyperspace tracking" goes by another term in every other SW film: "Tracking," lol. What other kind of ship to ship tracking is there? Line of sight? :D Any tracking over distances too vast to cross at sublight speed is exactly what they make such a big deal about in TLJ. Darth Maul tracks the queen's ship to Tatooine. Obi-Wan tracks Slave I to Geonosis. Vader tracks the Blockade Runner to Tatooine. Tarkin tracks the Falcon. Enfy Nest tracks the Falcon. Even po dunk Unkar Plutt manages to track the Falcon after it jumps to hyperspace in a deleted TFA scene.

It's quite literally one of the more commonplace aspects of the entire Saga. Yet in TLJ the very instant Snoke's fleet comes out of hyperspace Leia instantly assumes that he suddenly has a brand new version of the tech previously unused in the last 60 years of system to system tracking simply because she didn't personally witness a member of the FO attaching a device to any ship in her entire fleet? There's no way she could ever even know that it was the Raddus itself that the FO was locked on to. It seems like you're fine with it for no other reason than the fact that she guessed correctly which to me is simply RJ giving her out of the blue script knowledge, but speaking only for myself, that's such a wildly illogical assumption for what was previously such a tactically savvy character (going all the way back to ANH) that it really undermines the intelligence of her character IMO.

And lastly . . .

Uh oh! . . . Please don't use Solo as a SW example of how to show characters using sound logic and multi-level strategy effectively. That's a can of worms that would be better kept closed. :lol

True story: "Solo" may be THE most solid film of the entire Saga for me--with regard to its lack of shortcomings. It doesn't have the "greatest" moments in the Saga per se but I definitely do love many of the sequences. It's just the fact that there is quite possibly not one single thing that makes me cringe or rubs me the wrong way. Even the mighty RO has some elements (less than convincing Tarkin and Leia CGI, Walrusman cameo) that I wish were better or not present at all. But not Solo. I love the entire cast (yep including L3), love the new Imperial designs, love all the new creatures, the pacing, music, visuals, dialogue, everything.

Again, it isn't the best. I'd put it fourth behind SW/ESB/RO but I'm pretty blown away at how refined the script, story and overall execution is to the point that I don't know that I can muster a single criticism.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Weak villain.

Weak villain, somewhat anti-climactic showdown with said villain. Those were my take-aways on my first viewing. But I've grown to like (not love) Dryden Vos and I've grown to *really* like the "diving behind couches" back and forth scuffle in his office. It just has a neat vibe IMO. It helps that I see the overall film as kind of encapsulated mini-episodes of the "Adventures of Han Solo." Each 20 minutes or so with a new "villain." Lady Proxima/Moloch. His fellow Mimban soldiers and commanding officers (even Chewie!) Enfys Nest's Cloud Riders. Lando. Kessel Overlords. Dryden Vos. And finally Beckett himself. In the context of the whole I just like how Vos fits in.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely understand people's criticisms of various elements or characters, but for whatever reason I just think it all really works. Even the toys have prompted me to get back into collecting 3.75 inch.
 
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Uh-oh... that's a dangerous path.

Lol, remember my post a few weeks back about clutter. Control, control, I must learn control. I'm just adding 5 POA Solo and RO figures to my vintage Kenner line-up. The primitively articulated figures really feel like they're a better sculpted and painted continuation of the original line IMO. I figure if I don't branch off from 5 POA and don't get any duplicates of any figure originally released by Kenner I should be okay. We'll see, lol.

I need to watch Solo again. Only seen it once.

Yeah, definitely a fun little flick. It'll stream on Netflix next month if you have that.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I'm just adding 5 POA Solo and RO figures to my vintage Kenner line-up.

What is your vintage line-up?

I have all the figures from 1978-1983... minus a couple Ewoks... but including the Rebo band and a few others that were packed as part of "sets". Must be 100 or so figures, I forget what the total was if you got them all.
 
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