Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[jye4ever]

I wonder if Iger fired B&W immediately after the reaction to the GoT finale but allowed them to bow out gracefully "due to scheduling conflicts of" before they announce that the new release dates are really for the Feige/Favreau trilogy. MI'm calling it now, lol.

Supposedly they walked away but how if contracts were signed will there now be litigation.

But I agree I don?t think they wanted to compete with Feige lol

But man what a pay out from Netflix that?s ludicrous levels of money.


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[ajp4mgs]

From what I've read, the decision to dump the GoT guys was indeed made this summer. The speculation is that the Q&A the two of them did in Austin this week (where they basically took a **** on themselves - making it seem that they had no clue what they were getting into, disliking the fantasy element of GoT, etc.) escalated the urgency to make the announcement. Doing it while the new Mando trailer was fresh would presumably soften the PR blow.

 

[Python]

I wonder if Iger fired B&W immediately after the reaction to the GoT finale but allowed them to bow out gracefully "due to scheduling conflicts" before they announce that the new release dates are really for the Feige/Favreau trilogy. I'm calling it now, lol.

I don't know, you'd think if fan backlash was something that Disney took seriously, Rian Johnson would have been long gone. But he's still there, supposedly with an entire trilogy to come which could potentially damage the franchise no end. I've never watched GOT, but I'm lead to believe that it was pretty good until they hastily wrapped it up. TLJ was awful, so which of the two would Disney worry most about if this was the reason for them leaving?

 

[Khev]

I don't know, you'd think if fan backlash was something that Disney took seriously, Rian Johnson would have been long gone. But he's still there, supposedly with an entire trilogy to come which could potentially damage the franchise no end. I've never watched GOT, but I'm lead to believe that it was pretty good until they hastily wrapped it up. TLJ was awful, so which of the two would Disney worry most about if this was the reason for them leaving?

Marvel quickly announced the Russos involvement with CW after TWS's huge reception. And then again quickly fast-tracked IW/EG when Feige saw how CW was being handled. When a studio (one under Disney no less) has a player with a hot hand they don't let announcements stagnate. I think that RJ is 100% done with SW but they don't want to make that official due to his connection to the events leading into TROS. In other words I bet they don't want to admit defeat in how poorly TROS was set up until after that film is released.

However since RJ's trilogy was never given a name or release date I don't even know that they'll ever officially announce anything. He'll probably just forever be quietly sidelined.

 

[Python]

Marvel quickly announced the Russos involvement with CW after TWS's huge reception. And then again quickly fast-tracked the Infinity Saga when Feige saw how CW was being handled. When a studio (one under Disney no less) has a player with a hot hand they don't let announcements stagnate. I think that RJ is 100% done with SW but they don't want to make that official due to his connection to the events leading into TROS. In other words I bet they don't want to admit defeat in how poorly TROS was set up until after that film is released.

Since RJ's trilogy was never given a name or release date I don't even know that they'll ever officially announce anything. He'll probably just forever be quietly sidelined.

Yeah, maybe you're right. Although there is an argument to be made that officially removing him might have helped separate the final movie more from TLJ and demonstrated an intention to go a different route with this one which would no doubt raised anticipation for it.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Yeah, maybe you're right. Although there is an argument to be made that officially removing him might have helped separate the final movie more from TLJ and demonstrated an intention to go a different route with this one which would no doubt raised anticipation for it.

Kennedy still lurks around there and she probably doesn't want to admit defeat to the OT loving neck beards.

 

[darthviper107]

I think it's hard to believe that two full trilogies were in development when they plan to release every other year starting in 2022, that would take 10 years to get through, no way they'd make that kind of commitment.

Also, considering they dropped Josh Trank and Colin Trevorow due to some bad projects they did, it's pretty reasonable to think that they dropped B&W due to how Game of Thrones ended up once they had to rely more on themselves than the book material.

I'm sure they're in general fine with Rian Johnson since TLJ did so well, but they probably wouldn't mind working with someone else instead and avoid any controversy

 

[MegaPrime33]

I remember when they said they were going to release a new movie every year or every other year. That didn't pan out at all

 

[Khev]

I'm sure they're in general fine with Rian Johnson since TLJ did so well, but they probably wouldn't mind working with someone else instead and avoid any controversy

I don't know. Disney seems to be realize when they got lucky with BO earnings. Sure TLJ and Captain Marvel grossed over a billion each and yet any follow-up announcements of future films by RJ or featuring CM are conspicuously non-existent. We'll see of course but I don't think Disney is too eager to try their luck with those two again anytime soon.

Also if they were 100% happy with TLJ there's no way that JJ Abrams would publicly say "it didn't really derail anything." Who talks like that about something that is supposed to be a natural progression of a story? It "didn't really" derail anything? "Yeah it kinda did, but not really, at least not so bad that I can't salvage it." That's how his statement came across, lol.

No one ever said that ESB "didn't really derail anything from ANH" or even the crappy AOTC "didn't really derail TPM." Or any other sequel from a pre-planned trilogy or series with a definitive end in mind like the Infinity Saga. But Disney knows that things were going off the rails thanks to RJ and JJ himself even eluded to that fact.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Kennedy still lurks around there ....

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I'm sure they're in general fine with Rian Johnson since TLJ did so well, but they probably wouldn't mind working with someone else instead and avoid any controversy

Of course it did well in the box office, it's a trilogy movie and fans had no idea that Johnson was going to do to Star Wars what rock stars do to hotel rooms. You are choosing to ignore what has transpired since.

 

[darthviper107]

I don't know. Disney seems to be realize when they got lucky with BO earnings. Sure TLJ and Captain Marvel grossed over a billion each and yet any follow-up announcements of future films by RJ or featuring CM are conspicuously non-existent. We'll see of course but I don't think Disney is too eager to try their luck with those two again anytime soon.

Also if they were 100% happy with TLJ there's no way that JJ Abrams would publicly say "it didn't really derail anything." Who talks like that about something that is supposed to be a natural progression of a story? It "didn't really" derail anything? "Yeah it kinda did, but not really, at least not so bad that I can't salvage it." That's how his statement came across, lol.

No one ever said that ESB "didn't really derail anything from ANH" or even the crappy AOTC "didn't really derail TPM." Or any other sequel from a pre-planned trilogy or series with a definitive end in mind like the Infinity Saga. But Disney knows that things were going off the rails thanks to RJ and JJ himself even eluded to that fact.

Whatever Abrams says doesn't mean anything, he might have had some thoughts on where he wanted to go but no real plan or convictions. Based on leaks for TROS they're cutting some elements of some important explanations which indicates they don't really care about what the purpose of anything was. And all the stuff they said they weren't going to do they pretty much are doing (the way they deal with Carrie Fisher's death is exactly how you'd expect, he has a new explanation for Rey's parents, stuff from TLJ are ignored and plots aren't developed more). But that's pretty typical of Abrams, considering how he talked about things when doing Star Trek, and even The Force Awakens where he liked to talk up going back to practical effects yet it's got the least amount of practical effects of any Star Wars film.

 

[chewblacca]

Abrahams is a company man he has to say everything is all right with Star Wars even though, I believe, he knows it isn’t.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Abrahams is a company man

 

[chewblacca]

Exactly!

 

[xipotec]

We need a lets ***** about Star Wars thread so this thread can return to talking about the movie....which is not even out yet.

At least you would know what you would be reading on that thread.

Instead of page after page of ranting about Disney......


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[a-dev]

I don't think that ought to be necessary but if 3 people think it is then **** it lets do it and see how the activity in the threads compares.

 

[jedijim3002]

Has there been any leaks about how Palpatine survived or if he did at all and is just communicating through the force or a Sith Holocron?


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[ajp4mgs]

Has there been any leaks about how Palpatine survived or if he did at all and is just communicating through the force or a Sith Holocron?


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The leaks don't give any indication of "how" he survived. And I wouldn't hold my breath expecting an actual answer from JJ Abrams on that. As for how he'll be presented in the film, well, according to the leaks . . .

Spoiler

He's back in the flesh. Very weakened at first, and then gets a boost of vitality by taking Force energy (somehow) from Rey and Kylo. By the end, he's got a robe with black/brown and red color pattern and face looks like he did in ROTJ. Nothing confirmed officially, though, of course.

 

[jye4ever]

Supposedly they didn?t show his face because it wasn?t old Palpatine it was a young version.

I?m calling it right now, Maz Kanata is Sith and got Rey on her path to Palpatine.

Why didn?t they show who maz was fighting in TLJ. That will be revealed as resistance soldiers she killed off.

I?m telling y?all Maz is bad.

Maz Max


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