Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I won't see it until Tuesday probably. It's great that Abrams is undermining Johnson though. Perhaps I might even enjoy the film a bit.

If all the chatter and reviews are true, I don't know how Kathleen Kennedy keeps her job

 

[heon123]

Regardless of the movie...

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Would still be all in for a Ben Solo figure. Travesty we only got so little of him.

 

[Asta]

'Episodio IX' is all over the place online.

The amateur dialogue and the early appearance of that **** Kylo put me off.

I've never felt so disinterested in a new Star Wars film.

 

[greedo737]

https://youtu.be/ohkpAdiSVNo

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Last shot of the film...

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[Asta]

Last shot of the film...

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That would've been a better film than the one I just watched.


Bloody hell! TROS was the biggest load of cheese since The Holiday Special!

 

[Asta]

https://youtu.be/ohkpAdiSVNo

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He mentioned Rey's super powers, and the very thing I thought watching the film was, she's Supergirl!

 

[SilverStar17]

Enjoy the peace. Opinions will be inflicted soon. Very soon.

I plan on making myself scarce. Life is too short, no matter what my opinion of things - I'm too old for this s***.

I do hope people find peace over this stuff though, when it's not fun and people are hurting one another something has gone terribly wrong, and I truly hate to see that. This year has been a year of tragedies for me and my family - the single good thing about that is it gives perspective about what's really important. Nothing like perspective, nothing at all.

Merry Christmas.

My sentiments also.

You dislike the ST, fine, I don’t really care for it either. You like the ST, that’s fine too. I don’t feel the need to lambaste people who do for it with comments of how can you like this flaming pile of dog **** or you’re not a real fan of SW, etc. People imo get too emotionally invested in SW, for their own personal reasons; they liked the political narratives, they’re emotionally attached to it based on what time in their life they were introduced to it, etc. Which films you like and don’t like from it doesn’t make you more or less of a fan of it than someone else.

I don’t get too emotionally invested in SW, it’s always merely just been an interest and hobby of mine. I like the overall SW universe; some aspects of it and films I like, others not so much. It’s not really a big deal. There’s more important things in life to focus on rather than waste the time and energy getting angry over something as trivial as a make believe universe created simply for entertainment. Fans of the ST get too offended over criticisms of the ST, while fans of the OT are too sensitive to criticisms of the OT because they’re emotionally attached to it.

Sorry to hear about the tribulations you and your family had to endure this year. Hope next year is better for you.

 

[nexus]

Saw this last night. I know reviews are all over the place but I give it 8.5/10. I was not a fan of "Last Jedi" so just went in hoping for a good movie. Were there some things I would have liked to have seen, absolutely, but given all that the movie was up against I thought JJ landed it.

 

[TaliBane]

I mentioned this yesterday also. Usually critics and reviewers give a back massage to anything Disney. Like I said, this can only mean two things: either it wasn?t woke enough for them, or it really was that bad.

For the critics, apparently it?s the former. Fan service > wokeness, basically. They loved the agenda driven TLJ and relished in how it essentially gave the double-barreled middle finger to old SW fans, and now apparently hate how Disney freaked out over the backlash to TLJ and decided to pander to those fans for this film instead of staying on course with the wokeness.

Even though it holds a high rating from critics on RT, I do remember reading blogs from ?movie reviewers? about the Wonder Woman film a couple of years ago, who were upset and didn?t like the film simply because it didn?t turn out to be the man bashing fest they initially giddily thought it was going to be.

Watch this movie get a sub-60% rotten rating from top critics (as it currently is) but end up with a 80-85% fresh rating from users.

 

[SilverStar17]

Watch this movie get a sub-60% rotten rating from top critics (as it currently is) but end up with a 80-85% fresh rating from users.

Basically the inverse of TLJ.

They saw the same film, so to me when there’s that big of a discrepancy between the audience and the critics, it’s demonstrable the two had different expectations.

 

[Adam1138]

After the abortion that was TLJ, I’ve mentally detached these ST films from the beloved OT which will always be THE Star Wars saga for me. As such and with my very low expectation of this film after TLJ, I really enjoyed it. Yes there are massive plot fails, yes it’s not how I and many others wanted the “Skywalker” story to end, BUT out of the 3 ST films, this one for me is the best of the bunch. I think we all need to realise that films these days are mostly a completely different form of media to back when SW was in it’s pomp. The original trilogy was breaking new film making boundaries as they were being made. Pioneering processes were the norm for IlM and Lucasfilm back then. I’m going to sound patronising here but the younger generation will never understand how truly unique these films were at the time. They had a level of coolness that will never be replicated. Modern Directors seem to be so hooked on making their films look visually amazing that they forget what a great film really needs is a story that captures the soul emotions of the audience. The OT films look and feel like beautiful artistry compared to their modern counterparts. These are now just “another” Sci Fi film that I can watch and forget. The OT is Ingrained in my very being, forever.

 

[SilverStar17]

As it should be. And nobody can take that away from you. People tend to get emotionally invested in things based on what time in their life it reminds them of, naturally. So for younger folks who like the ST, or folks who like the PT, I get it. It doesn’t make them any less of SW fans to me simply because they like a film or trilogy more than what I do, and don’t genuflect and kiss the ring of the OT.

 

[Nailz]

 

[SilverStar17]

So the plot has officially been written on Wikipedia, which I read. As I’ve mentioned before, looking at spoilers and reading the plot of films before I see them doesn’t spoil anything for me because it’s still different than actually watching it for the first time and actually seeing how it all plays out.

Tbh, it actually does sound kind of decent.

Some thoughts on what I read:

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- No surprise Kylo turns to the light again. I always suspected he’d assume the same character arc as Vader.

- Utterly laughable that Kylo officially goes 0-3 in lightsaber duels. I would have had him at least beat Rey in TFA, and then had him lose to her here as he apparently does. Guy just can’t catch a break on that front.

- I still don’t like the fact that Palpatine was brought back to begin with, but it sounds like they somewhat made it work, albeit Snoke’s explanation imo is kind of a cop out. However, from what it sounds, it sounds like you could have still essentially had the same plot and have Rey possess the same lineage, without Palpatine having to be the villain. I’m also not a fan in the manner in which they had him die (again), with him stupidly firing the lightning at Rey and continuing to do so like a cackling ***** as it was being deflected back at him, until it killed him.

I’m actually kind of looking forward to seeing this now to see the execution on how this plays out exactly.

 

[darth dennis]

So the plot has officially been written on Wikipedia, which I read. As I’ve mentioned before, looking at spoilers and reading the plot of films before I see them doesn’t spoil anything for me because it’s still different than actually watching it for the first time and actually seeing how it all plays out.

Tbh, it actually does sound kind of decent.

Some thoughts on what I read:

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- No surprise Kylo turns to the light again. I always suspected he’d assume the same character arc as Vader.

- Utterly laughable that Kylo officially goes 0-3 in lightsaber duels. I would have had him at least beat Rey in TFA, and then had him lose to her here as he apparently does. Guy just can’t catch a break on that front.

- I still don’t like the fact that Palpatine was brought back to begin with, but it sounds like they somewhat made it work, albeit Snoke’s explanation imo is kind of a cop out. However, from what it sounds, it sounds like you could have still essentially had the same plot and have Rey possess the same lineage, without Palpatine having to be the villain. I’m also not a fan in the manner in which they had him die (again), with him stupidly firing the lightning at Rey and continuing to do so as it was being deflected back at him.

I’m actually kind of looking forward to seeing this now to see the execution on how this plays out exactly.

I don't always read spoilers or plots beforehand, but I agree that it doesn't ruin the experience. I've read plenty of books that were later made into movies and the experience was enjoyable. I agree with your issues as well but have high hopes that I'll enjoy the ride...

 

[Nailz]

 

[SilverStar17]

I don't always read spoilers or plots beforehand, but I agree that it doesn't ruin the experience. I've read plenty of books that were later made into movies and the experience was enjoyable. I agree with your issues as well but have high hopes that I'll enjoy the ride...

I still don’t have high hopes. I’m still approaching it indifferently, not expecting anything to cheer over. Simply render me curious.

And just from reading the plot, those are the issues that come to mind from that alone. I’m sure I’ll see more when I watch the film, but hopefully the positives outweigh the negatives.

As I’ve said, I don’t think it’ll resurrect the ST as a whole for me. TLJ killed that. The overall story was sloppy and all over the place. All this can be to me is simply a surprisingly decent film on its own merit, apart from the rest of the ST. When it comes to the ST as a whole, I’m probably just going to pick and choose parts of it that I consider canon, and parts of it that I’m going to flat out disregard.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

SilverStar, you have about the same mindset for the ST as I do. And I’m a bit relieved hearing comments from people like Nexus who didn’t like TLJ but thought TROS was decent.

I’ll be looking at the ST as if it were a Star Wars novel I read and didn’t really like but had no problem dismissing it. Not looking at it as a true canonical part of SW should help me at least enjoy watching the pretty, pretty lights this Sunday.

 

[Jmek]

Just got back and......... I thought it was best of the sequel trilogy. It's bonkers, trying to cover way to much ground, ignores Canon, has boggling amounts of fan service, makes no sense, but at the same time I couldn't help but admire JJ's moxy in attempting to pull the whole mess together. So yeah, I'd watch it again preferably in 3D.