Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Great review of the 4K Blu-ray release by Forbes - well worth a read:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...u-ray-review-luke-back-in-anger/#21e5e95e778e


"I guess I’m probably going to get crucified for saying this. But for me… Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a terrible film.

I’m not talking here, I hasten to add, about any of the thematic stuff that’s caused so much debate in the Star Wars fanverse. I’ll leave those debates to the Star Wars forums. What I’m talking about is just how bad The Last Jedi is as an exercise in film-making.

The story is a total mess, for starters. It’s packed with narrative holes and leaden dialogue, and the whole enterprise is hopelessly trapped inside a tortuous series of incompatible timelines that stretch credibility well beyond anything that even setting the story in a galaxy far, far away can excuse.The film’s tone is all over the place, too, switching horribly awkwardly between (usually painfully lame) humor, serious ‘Force stuff’ and lots of people dying without even trying to establish any sort of context for its changing moods.

Dull, messy scripts can sometimes be rescued by great direction. But sadly, despite his enjoyable efforts with Looper, writer/director Rian Johnson consistently fluffs the job of filming his own words.

Tense scenes fail to build tension. Dramatic scenes deliver no drama. Emotionally charged scenes lack emotional charge. Fight scenes look horribly stilted and leaden. Jokes generally feel so labored or are delivered so abruptly that they feel more like a slap in the face than something that might actually make you laugh.

I really can’t think of a single important scene where you get any sense that Johnson understands how to use imagery to add power to the film’s generally underwhelming events.

The Last Jedi's many filmmaking fails left me with almost nothing I could latch on to in order to become immersed in the action, leaving me desperate for the whole dull mess to come to an end at least an hour before it did. And once the criminally drab conclusion was finally reached, I couldn’t help but find myself comparing The Last Jedi with Alien 3 in terms of its franchise-crushing awfulness. I’m not saying The Last Jedi has necessarily got me thinking it’s time to call time on Star Wars - especially as it seems from the positive ratings on various ‘aggregating’ websites that there are still hordes of people determined to love the Star Wars universe no matter how clumsily it’s delivered.

Surely alarm bells have to be ringing, though, about the fact that Johnson is also currently signed up to make another trilogy of Star Wars films…"

I disagree with his opinion.


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[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Should’ve seen Khev after he read it

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Khev never saw my other pic -- he's likely the only one who would know all the faces on that one.

You need to let this thing go where it wants, audience be damned. This is art. Follow the muse!!!

and yet you sneakily told the joke anyways by posting about it while apologizing in advance
very sneaky i am proud of this post lol

You see a lot, doctor.

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Changed due to forum standards.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Classy.

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Changed due to forum standards.

Jk lol

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It’s ok in the Solo thread the TLJ haters are saying Maz not being in Solo will just prove how piss poor the ST movies are in establishing character arcs and continuity.

Desperate times calls for desperate measures I guess lol

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It’s ok in the Solo thread the TLJ haters are saying Maz not being in Solo will just prove how piss poor the ST movies are in establishing character arcs and continuity.

Desperate times calls for desperate measures I guess lol

Agreed. And the funny thing is the bashers like to pretend that these discussions are always "tit for tat" back and forths when it's *always* them who cross the line and make inappropriate/lewd/sexually suggestive insults and then cry that they're getting banned "because they didn't like TLJ." Are the remaining bashers that boneheaded to not be able to connect the dots?

When has any TLJ fan ever once said that two bashers are screwing each other or are getting bent over by some prominent blogger who hated the movie. We just never need to resort to that which is why we're all still here.

A lot of people thought the movie was awesome and like talking about it. The end. If you can't handle that then post a lewd insult and get yourself banned I guess.

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Fine Khev you win... okay okay? YOU WIN... Enjoy the TLJ and I'll use my photoshop skills for Grace. Jeez talk about a bait and switch. lolz

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I think any time someone here is included in a funny picture or meme that it should be considered a compliment. You have been recognized.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Basically every TLJ post.....



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[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I think any time someone here is included in a funny picture or meme that it should be considered a compliment. You have been recognized.

Well if people...

Rest cannot be said due to forum standards.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I think any time someone here is included in a funny picture or meme that it should be considered a compliment. You have been recognized.

I am in absolute awe of the Khev/jye master and apprentice.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It’s ok in the Solo thread the TLJ haters are saying Maz not being in Solo will just prove how piss poor the ST movies are in establishing character arcs and continuity.

Desperate times calls for desperate measures I guess lol

but it was a legitimate point. Maz SHOULD be in the Solo movie. it would have been an excellent way to connect the universe. a cool nod. I dont even love Maz but seeing her in a cameo would have been really really cool, I have always loved cameos like that. nods to other movies.

the fact that these people didnt even realize this shows you how hectic things are at disney. or how much trouble there is behind the scenes. it has nothing to do with the last jedi but more with disney and the people in charge of these movies in general.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I prefer -- and like -- that Solo's Rangetroopers are a nod to RO's tank trooper.

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

but it was a legitimate point. Maz SHOULD be in the Solo movie. it would have been an excellent way to connect the universe. a cool nod. I dont even love Maz but seeing her in a cameo would have been really really cool, I have always loved cameos like that. nods to other movies.

the fact that these people didnt even realize this shows you how hectic things are at disney. or how much trouble there is behind the scenes. it has nothing to do with the last jedi but more with disney and the people in charge of these movies in general.

Where do you get these.....facts?

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Where do you get these.....facts?

the fact is maz is missing

 

[abake]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

He used Aliens/Alien3 as the centerpiece of his argument it had EVERYTHING to do with that!

C’mon abake it’s right there front and center.

C'mon jye... you're reaching... :rolleyes

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

C'mon bye.

Best thing to say to people in this thread.