Star Wars On Blu-Ray

[darthviper107]

And you seem to be so hot on cgi that you cannot see past that.

I'm also talking about the prequels. I'm not the only one thinking they look phony and that has nothing to do with the older movies. I also think Transformers look phony. Indy 4 look phony. Many other cgi-ridden effects movies look phony, so I usually don't bother with them as they are nothing more than expensive looking cartoons.

If CGI is used appropriately, like I think it was done in Avatar - and again, some even think that one is looking like a cartoon - then perhaps there was a sense to call cgi effects in movies "realistic", but currently, it just isn't in the majority of films.

Good for you that you are so hot about it and find it believable.

You just make yourself sound more and more foolish.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

You just make yourself sound more and more foolish.

So why don't we just ignore each other 'til we go away.

 

[darthviper107]

So why don't we just ignore each other 'til we go away.

I tried to, but you came back

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I tried to, but you came back

Clearly not trying hard enough. But I'll make it easy for you. I'll stop quoting you from now on.

 

[adambadadam]

If you don't care for flat, phoney computer images...why spend such an effort to knock on something you despise so. Clearly some people have more than too much garlic on their hands.

Moving on to the next post now...

 

[darthviper107]

I had a hard time not doing something when you started saying stupid things again

 

[sithlord13]

Puppet yoda still rocks.

 

[a-dev]

The prequels look like cartoons with a few live action elements, the originals look like live action films with great models, miniatures, men in suits and puppets......I prefer the latter personally so I side with Too much Garlic in that debate. Frankly I don't think he said anything to warrant the insults hes received.

 

[sithlord13]

The prequels look like cartoons with a few live action elements, the originals look like live action films with great models, miniatures, men in suits and puppets......I prefer the latter personally so I side with Too much Garlic in that debate. Frankly I don't think he said anything to warrant the insults hes received.

At the end of day we all have our own opinions. But I find myself increasingly turning from the pt. sadly.

 

[adambadadam]

Well I'm sure theres plenty'o rooms available at the "Hurt Feelings" Inn, but to dismiss an entire industry and the many, many people that put their talents into those movies just because he doesn't believe that they are qualified, comes off just as insulting.

Like so many here, I'm sure he's got the credentials and the experience to be an authority on film and the processes of film-making


But so it goes with this thread, all too willing to cry foul when the hate gets reciprocated.

Happy Holidays

 

[Khev]

The prequels look like cartoons with a few live action elements

As much as I love ROTS it does have a pretty frequent "Cool World" vibe to the actors and backgrounds.

 

[galactiboy]

As much as I love ROTS it does have a pretty frequent "Cool World" vibe to the actors and backgrounds.

Same here, the effects are very impressive... but I can't look at Yoda and believe he is a tangible thing. I still think Gollum is the best I've ever seen for a main character completely done in GCI. And really LOTR as a whole is a wonderful blending of effects work.

 

[darthviper107]

There's no possible way anyone would believe Yoda is real--just the circumstances. Everyone knows anyways that he's CG, and everyone has the puppet to compare to. Gollum looks good, but we still know he's CG. But if you wanted characters of that size to be fully animated to match a real creature, there's no way to achieve that without CG.

 

[rubio95]

I've said it once, I'll say it again.

A byproduct of a heavy reliance on CG is the effect it has on live acting performances.

Liam Neeson "There's always a bigger fish"
Ewan McGregor "I have the high ground!"
Sam Jackson "This party's over, Dooku"
Natalie Portman "They said you killed younglings"
James Earl Jones "Noooooooooo!"
Christopher Lee "Twice the pride, double the fall"
Terrence Stamp - Actually, he didn't make me cringe.

Academy Award-caliber actors, all of them.

And I cannot think of any other movies featuring any of these heavyweights that made me CRINGE like the prequels.

It takes an idiot director to get such rotten performances from actors like these. Part of it is the dialogue is so poorly written, but a major factor is the fact that for most of the principal filming, they had no setpieces and no co-actors. Looking at an empty room over and over and over takes a toll on even the best veteran actors, and the performance always suffers.

Yes, there was plenty of bluescreen used in the originals, but there was also a ton of MASSIVE sets constructed, extra actors, etc. that gave the original cast something to really make them FEEL that they were in the universe of Star Wars. The prequels lack this almost entirely.

Which doesn't even consider the terrible articulation of the animated characters.

Still a fan of Too Much Garlic.

 

[pixletwin]

Fact: George Lucas has no idea how to direct actors.

 

[karamazov80]

It takes an idiot director to get such rotten performances from actors like these. Part of it is the dialogue is so poorly written. . .

Good point. We can argue practical effects vs. CG 'til the cows come home, but the main reason the prequels suck is because George sucked at making them. They just suck all over the place, in oh, so many ways. If you transported the George who made Phantom Menace to 1975 or whatever, the movie he made back then would have sucked, too.

 

[darthviper107]

Yeah, those issues were the script, not the actors.

 

[rubio95]

Yeah, those issues were the script, not the actors.

And part of it is DEFINITELY the actors. They can certainly be given somewhat of a pass, because the directors job is to DIRECT them. Verbally, philosophically, and with the use of various production tools (set design, wardrobe, etc.).

Wardrobe kicked ass. Everything else was nonexistent.

 

[Rorywan]

Have you gotten a set of the Harmy despecialized editions yet Rorywan? They are pretty damn impressive and certainly fulfilled my need for a non-sucky OT in HD

No, I must have a look for them at the weekend.
Thanks for the heads up!

 

[darthviper107]

And part of it is DEFINITELY the actors. They can certainly be given somewhat of a pass, because the directors job is to DIRECT them. Verbally, philosophically, and with the use of various production tools (set design, wardrobe, etc.).

Wardrobe kicked ass. Everything else was nonexistent.

But then look at Avatar---they didn't even have bluescreen or costumes, and only one good actor and they did much better. Lucas really let them down with the script he gave them and the directing.