Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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Better not kill Chewbacca or Luke, that's all I'm saying.

They can kill Leia if they want. Same with poor "hey look everyone, I have a new red arm, buy the toy of me", background character C-3PO.
Well they already made Luke redundant, seeing Rey already wiped the floor with Kylo Ren after magically learning lightsaber combat in about 3 seconds, not to mention mind tricks, etc. Come episode VIII, Rey will probably be teaching Luke the ways of the Force.
 
Managed to get an hour and a half into the film today and am loving it.

Just feels right, especially after the Prequels which require an effort to appreciate.

The only downside so far I found was Carrie Fisher. Maybe it was the dialogue they gave her to say, but she comes off as a weak point. The line about blaming Snoke for her son's fall to the dark side was as awkward as a line from the PT.

Daisy is a revelation, with her delivery, timing and expressions. Boyega also. They work well together.
 

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I haven't seen the movie since Thursday, and I can't stop thinking about! The scene with Old Luke is my second favorite scene in the entire franchise! I'm so happy that they're switching it up with directors, so they don't suffer any burn out. It's just such an awesome time we live in...well entertainment-wise. I'm really hoping the Batman movies are good, but if the reviews are bad, I still got a got Civil War and I got Rogue One!

This was my dad's first Star Wars movie, and the first time he found out that Darth Vader was Luke's father. It's kind of funny to me! He can't stand fantasy or science fiction (besides Batman, The Twilight Zone, Universal movie monsters), but he said he enjoyed The Force Awakens. He said he wouldn't watch it again, but I was just happy that he made it past the first 10 minutes since he despised anything to do with the Star Wars franchise.:lol
 
Johnny Depp in 21 Jump Street :monkey2

Indeed. :lol

Though I agree that a cash grab =/= balls

Real balls would have been to turn down the 100 million or whatever he gets from this and say **** you to Disney et al. :lol

I disagree. This movie allowed Ford to do what he wanted to do with the character back in 1983 when he WAS wanting to (and did) walk away from all things SW. If he made 100 million from this movie then that just means he turned down 200 million more. Regardless of how much money has already been made I always respect actors decisions to turn down even more.

Like Keaton with regard to Batman Forever. Walking away from the lucrative franchise doesn't make him on par with someone who adopts a special needs child but it IS cool nonetheless.
 
Better not kill Chewbacca or Luke, that's all I'm saying.

They can kill Leia if they want. Same with poor "hey look everyone, I have a new red arm, buy the toy of me", background character C-3PO.

I agree! They especially shouldn't kill Chewie since wookies can live to be 600 years old. He's one of the few characters (along with the droids) who could continue to appear in SW movies 100 years from now. :p
 
There are a handfull of people in this thread who enjoyed the movie, had fun and aren't over analyzing it.

Yup.....ME!

I never over analyze any movie I see. I either love it, like it, dislike it or hate it. That's about as much analyzing that I do. :lol

Sometimes the same people hate about every movie they see. I think I'd quit going.

Now jye has to see a movie several times to decide one way or another. ;)
 
Indeed. :lol



I disagree. This movie allowed Ford to do what he wanted to do with the character back in 1983 when he WAS wanting to (and did) walk away from all things SW. If he made 100 million from this movie then that just means he turned down 200 million more. Regardless of how much money has already been made I always respect actors decisions to turn down even more.

Like Keaton with regard to Batman Forever. Walking away from the lucrative franchise doesn't make him on par with someone who adopts a special needs child but it IS cool nonetheless.
There seems to be a general assumption that Ford's death was really his own decision, and that the other creative arms of this film didn't want him to die, and instead would have preferred to keep him on for more $$$. I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I don't know if I agree. For the story, his death really works, and is going to create a genuine threat from Kylo that otherwise would not have been there. It paints him in a totally different light if he were just killing random characters no one knew or cared for. I'm going to give Disney the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was a decision made for the story, and not a decision made be a diva actor who wanted a single pay-day and then to walk off into the sunset (though it is very possible that Ford would not have agreed to anything else regardless of what the studio wanted).
 
Ben the Ren will have an arc of redemption I'm sure. I could definitely see Ford coming back for visions or some nonsense.

I don't see how you can be redeemed from killing your old, defenseless dad though. That's unforgivable in my book, there's no reason in it. If Leia forgives that and still wants "muh boy", well then I don't know what to say. That's not even taking into account all those innocent students he offed in addition to his own dad, but then again, Anakin killed a bunch of kids, betrayed his peers and choked out his wife and got to be Force Ghost and a glorified diety, so maybe Ren has the right idea.
 
There seems to be a general assumption that Ford's death was really his own decision, and that the other creative arms of this film didn't want him to die, and instead would have preferred to keep him on for more $$$. I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I don't know if I agree. For the story, his death really works, and is going to create a genuine threat from Kylo that otherwise would not have been there. It paints him in a totally different light if he were just killing random characters no one knew or cared for. I'm going to give Disney the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was a decision made for the story, and not a decision made be a diva actor who wanted a single pay-day and then to walk off into the sunset (though it is very possible that Ford would not have agreed to anything else regardless of what the studio wanted).

I don't care either way. Maybe it was simply they asked if he'd come back to end his character and he said sure. Times change, people change. I know the last few years in interviews he's seemed to have loosened up quite a bit. He takes himself less seriously now.

And to people saying he should've walked away......pffffffffffffft.
 
There seems to be a general assumption that Ford's death was really his own decision, and that the other creative arms of this film didn't want him to die, and instead would have preferred to keep him on for more $$$. I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I don't know if I agree. For the story, his death really works, and is going to create a genuine threat from Kylo that otherwise would not have been there. It paints him in a totally different light if he were just killing random characters no one knew or cared for. I'm going to give Disney the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was a decision made for the story, and not a decision made be a diva actor who wanted a single pay-day and then to walk off into the sunset (though it is very possible that Ford would not have agreed to anything else regardless of what the studio wanted).

This movie should've been about Leia having gone to the dark side.
 
Ben the Ren will have an arc of redemption I'm sure. I could definitely see Ford coming back for visions or some nonsense.

I don't see how you can be redeemed from killing your old, defenseless dad though. That's unforgivable in my book, there's no reason in it. If Leia forgives that and still wants "muh boy", well then I don't know what to say. That's not even taking into account all those innocent students he offed in addition to his own dad, but then again, Anakin killed a bunch of kids, betrayed his peers and choked out his wife and got to be Force Ghost and a glorified diety, so maybe Ren has the right idea.

Yeah, but at least Vader took out the big boss.
 
Implying Ren won't be the won't to take out crusty old Snoke.

It's poetry Jye, every stanza rhymes.
 
I don't see how you can be redeemed from killing your old, defenseless dad though.

I agree. Which makes for a fascinating ambiguity regarding Ren right out of the gate. I'm sure over the next two films Leia, Luke, etc., will want him to be redeemed but you just can't come back from what he did.

My guess is that he will turn at some point but like Vader in ROTJ he'll need to sacrifice himself (like some epic kamikaze run in his dad's ship) in the process.
 
I agree. Which makes for a fascinating ambiguity regarding Ren right out of the gate. I'm sure over the next two films Leia, Luke, etc., will want him to be redeemed but you just can't come back from what he did.

My guess is that he will turn at some point but like Vader in ROTJ he'll need to sacrifice himself (like some epic kamikaze run in his dad's ship) in the process.

Yup, precisely.

Maybe get the death I always assumed Han and Chewie would have, martyrdom in the Falcon. If it happens like you said, it will probably be Ren flying into the reactor of a new Death Star that's 8 times bigger than the last and eats entire solar systems.

Then again, the Falcon is like a merchandising/advertising juggernaut. Might want to keep it for the next sequel trilogy. So maybe Ren jettisons out of an escape pod to his ultimate demise while the Falcon floats away to safety in space.
 
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