Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Khev]

Just believe in yourself.... isn't that the key theme in Star Wars anyway?

YES. Luke's impossible shot with a spaceship he'd never flown in his life set the stage for all things to come.

WTF? What did I do?

I was trying to make a good natured jab at you and a-dev. Nothing more.

Just don't ever confuse an A-Wing with a B-Wing again. I'd hate to have to get nasty.

 

[bonestockbrz]

You know, I never got how Avatar made so much money . I hated that movie as did most my friends . Which is funny since those same friends love Force Awakens

 

[YoNoSe]

You know, I never got how Avatar made so much money . I hated that movie as did most my friends . Which is funny since those same friends love Force Awakens

I know everybody here hates George Lucas, but he summed it up pretty well in the (excellent) making-of documentary on the TPM DVD/Blu.

Paraphrasing:
He says of TPM, "It's not going to beat Titanic."
Frank Oz: "Could someone explain that, please?"
GL: "You can't explain it, just like Star Wars. It just happens."

 

[Khev]

Before the prequels I pictured that if Yoda ever had to "fight" that he was so attuned to the Force that he would just step back, close his eyes, and levitate a lightsaber to fight for him. Rey taps into that. Her gifts transcend technical know-how just like Luke in the trench.

"Rey, you're in a rookie defensive stance, what's wrong?"

"Nothing, I'm all right." *hacks up Kylo*

 

[YoNoSe]

For anybody that's not clinging desperately to the butt-hurt, here's a short, amusing piece my friend Chris wrote -Star Wars Fans May Have Already Missed the Best Way to See The Force Awakens | Vanity Fair

 

[Khev]

I know everybody here hates George Lucas

I have to shake my head at lots of the SE's and PT but man, I can't help but be thankful that he deliberately turned a blind eye to Harmy and then sold the franchise to Disney. "But it was for $4 billion dollars!" I don't care. He didn't NEED any more billions, and he seemed the type to just clutch those movies until his dying breath and then pass ownership to his two hack kids.

Thank GOD things played out the way they did.

 

[YoNoSe]

He also donated half his money to charity.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Before the prequels I didn't think Yoda even needed a lightsaber. Look at the Emperor, he didn't use one, just the lightning, and he was the only one who could do it in the OT, with the exception of Yoda maybe. I always thought that was the difference between a "grand master" force user and a Jedi master. Apparently not.

 

[DiFabio]

I was trying to make a good natured jab at you and a-dev. Nothing more.

Just don't ever confuse an A-Wing with a B-Wing again. I'd hate to have to get nasty.

Ok, good. I thought that was a dig at me. I thought I was going to have to kamikaze into your Star Destroyer Bridge. Wait, what?

 

[WWEJedi]

Before the prequels I didn't think Yoda even needed a lightsaber. Look at the Emperor, he didn't use one, just the lightning, and he was the only one who could do it in the OT, with the exception of Yoda maybe. I always thought that was the difference between a "grand master" force user and a Jedi master. Apparently not.

He is the only one who can absorb force lightning, which is a dark side force tactic. So for Yoda to even be able to do that is impressive.

 

[pturtle]

WTF? What did I do?

Why are people getting so snippy in here all of the sudden? I'm not sure who's worse, people like ClownPrince's sorta/kinda nitpicking needlessly for elements of the movie where you should just shut your brain off and accept things in the movie or people grovelling at the Force Awakens feet and defending any and every legit criticism, big or small. Hmm.

I know what stage we're in post-movie viewing on this board, but it's like people just don't learn from past experiences.

For me, the Episode 7 was decent, it was good. It hit a few spots I had been wanting to see in a Stat Wars movie. And now? It's over. I saw it, it was okay and I had a good time when I saw it both times in theaters. It wasn't the best Star Wars, it wasn't the worst Star Wars. It's just kinda there.


That's all I have to say about that.


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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays

Oh come on, ClownPrince is doing nothing different than what you did with TDKR, except he’s actually being far less nitpicky here

This is one of the few movies where I didn’t have to watch the movie 10 times to find issues, they’re so in your face. Even if some of these issues that ClownPrince is bringing up has answers, its a testament to some bad directing from J.J. that played a part in some scenes just not working. I for one think Rey being the ultimate jedi in about 10 minutes is bad writing. It’s also funny how people are bringing up the prequels help make points to why certain things make sense in TFA while at the same time admitting the prequels are crap.

 

[Khev]

For anybody that's not clinging desperately to the butt-hurt, here's a short, amusing piece my friend Chris wrote -Star Wars Fans May Have Already Missed the Best Way to See The Force Awakens | Vanity Fair

Thanks for the link, these two segments had me in stitches:

before the screening my friends and I each admitted that this is the night we’ve been most excited about in well over 10 years. (Worth mentioning: within the past four years, both of my friends have become fathers.)

Priceless!

We all expressed the common terror—that someone leaving an earlier show would shout a spoiler at us and run. This wasn’t a baseless fear. Apparently it was pandemic during the Empire Strikes Back; awful, heinous people would scream “Vader is Luke’s father!” at the innocent souls in line behind them. And I was frankly terrified that would happen to us. I played the scene out in my mind and asked my conscience for the appropriate response. Would I pursue? Definitely. One would have to. But then what? Was I ready to take a life? Let’s just say I was surprised and unnerved by the answer my heart gave.

I'm so glad to hear that I wasn't alone in that fear. And thank God no one did that for my line. I actually haven't heard of it happening anywhere, hopefully "spoiler jerks" were few and far between.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He is the only one who can absorb force lightning, which is a dark side force tactic. So for Yoda to even be able to do that is impressive.

Yoda can shoot lightning too, not just absorb it, right? In the PT, I mean.

 

[YoNoSe]

I'm so glad to hear that I wasn't alone in that fear. And thank God no one did that for my line. I actually haven't heard of it happening anywhere, hopefully "spoiler jerks" were few and far between.

I was TERRIFIED.

 

[Darkseed]

Yeah, it should have ended in less than a second, but let's say that Vader didn't really want to kill or hurt Luke at that point in the story, and he held back(which makes Vader letting Luke fall to the bottom of cloud city completely illogical), I don't see how plotholes, inconsistencies, or any kind of problem in the old films makes it acceptable for the new film to repeat some of those mistakes. I'm not one of these guys who gives the OT a pass, and the same way I criticize something that doesn't make sense in the old films, I do the same with the current movies. I do that with all movies.

I think that's the Matrix again.

My point being the same plot holes, inconsistencies suffered in the new film existed in the prior six films. As a fan of the saga it isn't new or unexpected so it is less bothersome to me and others. Criticisms like this is new to the franchise or to this film some of us scratch our heads. It isn't we don't see them more so part of the culture of the films and don't get the big deal

 

[Khev]

I went through so many "worst case scenarios" prior to the movie. What if there is a seven car pile up on the way to the theater? What are my alternate routes? What if I have car trouble? What would I do? Call a cab and abandon my vehicle for two and a half hours? What if one of my kids get sick? Stay home or bring a barf bag? Etc...

So did anyone here actually have Han and Kylo spoiled for them?

 

[YoNoSe]

I for one think Rey being the ultimate jedi in about 10 minutes is bad writing.

Come on, dude. If you're going to call someone out, you can't hit hyperbole warp-drive in the same post.

Bad writing, indeed.

 

[Khev]

Come on, dude. If you're going to call someone out, you can't hit hyperbole warp-drive in the same post.

Bad writing, indeed.

When hyperbole must be invoked to criticize a film then you know the movie is sound. Not saying that there aren't things to criticize but if you've got to mischaracterize the film in order to make your point then you know your argument doesn't have any weight to it.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Oh come on, ClownPrince is doing nothing different than what you did with TDKR, except he’s actually being far less nitpicky here

Forgive me. I feel it again... the call from light. Pturtle senses it. Show me again the power of the darkness, and I'll let nothing stand in our way. Show me, Difabio, and I will finish what the nitpicking that you started.

 

[YoNoSe]

When hyperbole must be invoked to criticize a film then you know it is sound.

Yeah, I guess it's just the nature of the Movies section, which I am coming to terms with and actually like most of the people who post here.

There are certainly flaws worth criticising, even if they don't bother me. I get the "ANH part 3 (or 4)" critiques and such. But some of this stuff is so obviously left unanswered with intent that the LOLing about the "bad writing" says a lot more about the poster than the screenwriters.