Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Khev]

I take comments like that with an enormous grain of salt. Pablo Hidalgo is an appointed member of the Lucasfilm Story Group, a group which feverishly tries to manufacture connections between various entries of official canon that were never intended to be there in the first place. When Jake Davies designed the pirate who would come to be known as "Sidon Ithano" he was just "CO24" out of a hundred other drawings, a guy with a cool looking helmet who could have been anyone in Maz' castle. Abrams or the production designer or whomever saw him and said "that guy will be one of the pirates Finn talks to" and then someone like Pablo comes along and goes "hmm, vertical lines on his mask, I'll say that's a connection to Grievous' species to connect the universe more" even though that was never a thought when Davies designed him, Abrams shot him, etc.

I've read all of those "Before the Awakening" books and all the authors like to take background characters from TFA and give them these big backstories that tie in to the prequels or whatever. That's fine of course but to me it doesn't really "count" the same as if the actual writers and director of the movie deliberately presented the characters as being connected to those things. It's just fun (more or less) side stuff made up after the fact.

Sort of how some comic writer saw a long haired dude with face paint in The Phantom Menace that Lucas didn't think twice about and goes off and creates this whole "Quinlan Vos" mystique.

 

[Prime Clone]

someone like Pablo comes along and goes "hmm, vertical lines on his mask, I'll say that's a connection to Grievous' species to connect the universe more" even though that was never a thought when Davies designed him, Abrams shot him, etc.

It's not just the vertical lines, it's the whole shape of the mask (aside from the bits sticking out the side). I spotted the design similarity on-screen straight away - too strong to be coincidental.

Abrams may not have been aware of, or intended, any link to Grievous, but are you sure Davies didn't?

Sort of how some comic writer saw a long haired dude with face paint in The Phantom Menace that Lucas didn't think twice about and goes off and creates this whole "Quinlan Vos" mystique.

Then Vos finds his way back into canon with a mention in ROTS!

 

[Khev]

Abrams may not have been aware of, or intended, any link to Grievous, but are you sure Davies didn't?

Oh I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying I take Pablo's words with a grain of salt. I don't see the nod to Grievous that you do so my guess is that it was an original design with coincidental similarities but if your hunch is that Davies designed him with Grievous then hey maybe that was the case.

Right now I'm just not seeing it though.

Then Vos finds his way back into canon with a mention in ROTS!

Yeah that was weird.

 

[Prime Clone]

Funny how different people perceive different things. Jumped out at me straight away. Admit they're not identical but strongly similar - even the ridge on the top.

If you compare the vertical lines, on both they're actually holes, protrude from the eye sockets and have a "hook" effect at the top.

 

[rushmore223]

Not really Star Wars news, per se, but word has it that Daisy Ridley is being considered for the lead role in the Tomb Raider reboot.

 

[Khev]

Daisy Ridley is being considered for the lead role in the Tomb Raider reboot.

Check please.

 

[DiFabio]

I thought Tomb Raider was supposed to have big bewbs? That british slag has none!

 

[jye4ever]

I guess adolescents today are no longer turned on by big boobs, they like big teeth.

 

[The Ween]

I guess adolescents today are no longer turned on by big boobs, they like big teeth.

Owie! That's gonna hurt!

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[jye4ever]

I'm game.

It's like a beer/soda bottle opener only my cap is permanently attached.

 

[IrishJedi]

Daisy is a total doll. She's gorgeous and has an unbeatable personality.

She's not right for Lara Croft, though. And I'd prefer to see her take on some more dramatic material anyway. Don't get stuck just doing "geek" films.

 

[higgins1989]

Not really Star Wars news, per se, but word has it that Daisy Ridley is being considered for the lead role in the Tomb Raider reboot.

Bad idea in my opinion, Camilla Luddington who does both the current Mo-Cap and Voice Acting should be considered if anyone. For anyone that doesn't know she is the Nanny/Blowie chick from Californication. Nice boobs too lol

 

[Khev]

Daisy is a total doll. She's gorgeous and has an unbeatable personality.

She's not right for Lara Croft, though. And I'd prefer to see her take on some more dramatic material anyway. Don't get stuck just doing "geek" films.

I agree. After POTC Keira Knightley went right into Love Actually, Pride & Prejudice, and Atonement. I'd rather see Daisy go that route than have her try and be the next Zoe Saldana.

One of my co-workers did catering on TFA and said he was head over heels in love with her throughout the entire production. All he could muster up the courage to do was ask her to dance at the wrap party and of course being the total sweetheart that she is she obliged him.

 

[IrishJedi]

I agree. After POTC Keira Knightley went right into Love Actually, Pride & Prejudice, and Atonement. I'd rather see Daisy go that route than have her try and be the next Zoe Saldana.

Also, Daisy has 1,000x more charisma than Keira Knightly. It's the biggest difference between the two.

 

[Rorywan]

Also, Daisy has 1,000x more charisma than Keira Knightly. It's the biggest difference between the two.

yeah, Knightly has the charisma of a biscuit, which is a shame because I think she's quite a nice lady.

 

[a-dev]

Daisy is a total doll.

She's not right for Lara Croft, though. And I'd prefer to see her take on some more dramatic material. Don't get stuck in "geek" films.

Agreed. I think it'd be a bad move. They obviously think casting an 'unconventional' Lara is the key to making people take Tomb Raider seriously as a movie property. I suspect they would be wrong.

 

[Rorywan]

Daisy is not far off the rebooted Lara seen in the last couple of games though.
I think it's a bad move too, but she isn't miscast at all if that's the version of Croft they are making.

 

[jye4ever]

I agree, no TR for her.

She should play Black Phillip in The VVitch 2.

 

[Khev]

Keira might not have Daisy's charisma but she's done a nice job of keeping herself "above" the cliche of getting stuck doing nothing but geek movies (Saldana) or alternating between geek and dramatic (J. Law.) I'd just be totally fine with Star Wars being Ridley's only geek films period and would be happy to see her doing everything else instead.

As great as many of the actors are in the various superhero franchises I kind of see her as above those films. I've got to imagine that if she does go the superhero route that Disney will be sure to keep her in their universe though.

As her follow-up to TFA Daisy did voice work for the most recent Studio Ghibli film (which I still need to see.) Keeping it classy!

 

[spindrift]

Daisy is the hot thing now- she will have the Lara role if she wants it- hopefully she won't. Daisy seems to be more of an art film actor who like Christian Bale will take alot off more "offbeat" movies rather than all blockbusters