Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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I think Ford was done with Star Wars right about here...look a that face! :lol

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Someone stepped on Chewie's foot!
 
abake makes some great points. Many wanted to see the adventures of Obi-Wan and Anakin, but SW is a more sweeping saga than that. Plus The Clone Wars fills in the gaps (and the prequels are better for it).

Also, "conflict" is definitely the key word with Vader (Luke even says so in ROTJ). He's neither purely good or evil, he starts out doing bad things against his better judgment, and ends up seeing no way out but to embrace the dark side.
 
abake makes some great points. Many wanted to see the adventures of Obi-Wan and Anakin, but SW is a more sweeping saga than that. Plus The Clone Wars fills in the gaps (and the prequels are better for it).

Also, "conflict" is definitely the key word with Vader (Luke even says so in ROTJ). He's neither purely good or evil, he starts out doing bad things against his better judgment, and ends up seeing no way out but to embrace the dark side.

Clone Wars is better then the films that's for sure... But it still does not make the films any better...

Star Wars can still be sweeping but still better writing could have built the friendship better... Its not like Han and Luke get all this "quality" time in Star Wars or Empire but the moments they do work and you care and feel for the characters. Obi and Anakin are so wooden and the dialogue so bad that none of it works and I felt nothing when the final conflict happened. I did not see a battle between two friends.

It's not that TCW needed to be just about their friendship but it could have told the story with them doing the adventure together like A New Hope.

It tried to show us that in TOTS but it was too little too late and it was a tad too corny.

Lucas failed in so many ways that it's hard to keep count and what I find really unforgiving is the impact it had on the OT... blah...

Happy some can find enjoyment in them. The films are now just fan fiction to me and are not part of the real Star Wars universe.
 
Clone Wars is better then the films that's for sure... But it still does not make the films any better...

Exactly. There was no EU to expand upon and reinforce the OT until what, the early 90s? The PT needs the EU to be in any way salvageable right from the off and even then...
 
I'm ready for TFA to come and give the OT a run for its money.

It will never have the groundbreaking cultural impact that the OT had on cinema, marketing, merchandising and society in general but it can still achieve its own greatness by having a reputation of being equal to the OT.
 
My foremost expectation is that it be better than any PT movie. In my mind it will do so merely by having acting that isn't wooden as ****. Anything else is a bonus.
 
It has to be better than the three Prequels. Be hard not to.

The real question, will it be better than ROTJ? I'm sure it will from a directorial standpoint. But we'll see if any of it resonates beyond momentary nostalgia.
 
Exactly. There was no EU to expand upon and reinforce the OT until what, the early 90s? The PT needs the EU to be in any way salvageable right from the off and even then...

Yep... Films should not have to depend on EU to make them acceptable.

Anyways I think I am done dumping on the PT... Time for me to get ready for the new film :)
 
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