My point was that even OT Luke might have been different in dealing with Anakin/Vader if he had been the one personally responsible for failing Anakin. But he wasn't. Kenobi had to deal with that, and why he said, "I've failed you Anakin." It's tougher to believe you can turn someone around when you yourself are responsible for their downfall. It's called a conscience. And good people carry stronger burdens of conscience. And great people even get so weighed down by things like guilt that they do things that are out of character.
Then you said that I didn't understand that Kenobi had a different belief system, and that if I did understand it I'd know how different he was from Luke. So I used Kenobi's own words to give you some background on his belief system not being quite as cemented in absolutes as was being suggested.
But obi wan wasnt responsible for anakins turn it was palpatine and his love for padme. With ben, you could argue that jake skywalker caused his turn by sneaking into his room while he was sleeping and igniting his saber as if he was going to kill him. First, luke skywalker would never do that, and if he did, **** up that bad he would do anything in his power to try and fix it. Not just hide away and say **** it, ben did t even do that he tried to make good on his percieved mistake with anakin by watching over his son luke
Excellent back and forth here. Ajp4mgs I understand where you are coming from but I disagree with your interpretation that because these were similar circumstances the characters would likely act in a similar manner. That was one of the nice points about it the OT (later really reinforced by the PT) that Ben and Yoda were from the old guard of the Jedi and both could not see a means of defeating the Sith other than to kill them. Luke's world view wasn't entrenched by the strict Jedi code. He only had the basics of the understanding of the Jedi from Yoda and Ben and then he projected his own moralities onto what he thought a Jedi ought to be and tried to be like that.
In many ways he was lot like Qui-gon and younger Anakin of the PT. Jedi at their core should just do the morally right thing and help enlighten and protect those around them - this appeared to be lil Ani's view of the Jedi before he became one. Somewhere along the way the old republic Jedi order lost sight of that, getting wrapped up in politics and power struggles. Becoming soldiers and spending their entire life suppressing and fearing their emotions and attachments lest it lead to the dark side. Hence I do not believe that Luke would act in the Obi-wan manner as set out in TLJ, he is a fundamentally different person with a different morale compass and belief system.
Man I wish we had seen Luke's Jedi school and his way of teaching, that would have been something interesting and rewarding for the audience after ROTJ. It would also have given us a reference point and understanding when it was all torn down and the first order rose up.
Only Siths deal in absolutes. Oh the irony of that statement coming from the one character who was more steadfast and untielding in his beliefs than any other, nice one George. At least force ghost Obi-wan and Yoda were able to realise their errors at the end of ROTJ.