So why would he hand it back to her without saying a word?
That's one good thing about the internet, I don't have to be a prisoner of my own views.
I would suggest that Hamill likely knows the character of Luke Skywalker better than Rian Johnson does....
I would suggest that Hamill likely knows the character of Luke Skywalker better than Rian Johnson does....
Or not...like it or not Rian Johnson is the architect of Luke's ENTIRE post ROTJ existence...Hamill, who I love, showed up to read the lines...if Hamill had been asked to write and direct TLJ then it would be another story...but Johnson got to do this and once again, he now gets to be the expert. Lucas wrote the first Star Wars by himself (technically though he had a lot of dialogue help)...other than that Johnson is the only writer to have personally written a movie featuring Luke Skywalker from start to finish...
I don't entirely follow this. Hamill has made it pretty public in his own understated way that he tried to fight Rian throughout the production regarding the character. Rian clearly wasn't interested and the result was the Cynical and pessimistic Luke we got in TLJ. We saw Luke from from being a whiny farm boy, to an optimistic and controlled Jedi knight in the original trilogy. We all followed that journey with him and i was thrown out of the window in TLJ. What is done is done, we can't change that, but to say that Rian Johnson knows the character of Luke more than Mark Hamil is debatable at best... Probably not even debatable actually, he just doesn't. He has created his own version of course which he knows better. But as Hamill said himself, "That's not my Luke" I guess we'll all have to learn to live with that.
This video is over dramatic and edited, but the first 50 seconds highlights this.
Or not...like it or not Rian Johnson is the architect of Luke's ENTIRE post ROTJ existence...Hamill, who I love, showed up to read the lines...if Hamill had been asked to write and direct TLJ then it would be another story...but Johnson got to do this and once again, he now gets to be the expert. Lucas wrote the first Star Wars by himself (technically though he had a lot of dialogue help)...other than that Johnson is the only writer to have personally written a movie featuring Luke Skywalker from start to finish...
I don't entirely follow this. Hamill has made it pretty public in his own understated way that he tried to fight Rian throughout the production regarding the character. Rian clearly wasn't interested and the result was the Cynical and pessimistic Luke we got in TLJ. We saw Luke go from being a whiny farm boy, to an optimistic and controlled Jedi knight in the original trilogy. We all followed that journey with him and it was thrown out of the window in TLJ. What is done is done, we can't change that, but to say that Rian Johnson knows the character of Luke more than Mark Hamil is debatable at best... Probably not even debatable actually, he just doesn't. He has created his own version of course which he knows better. But as Hamill said himself, "That's not my Luke" I guess we'll all have to learn to live with that.
This video is over dramatic and edited, but the first 50 seconds highlights this.
Using this logic, Robert De Niro had nothing to do with the creation of Travis Bickle? He showed up to "read the lines"? Did Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan solely create Indy and HF showed up to "read the lines"?
I'm not comparing quality of actors (yes, Hamill is no De Niro), or directly comparing characters in terms of complexity or appeal. I'm talking about the process by which a film character is created.
You appear to be saying that if a new writer/director shows up to write a new Indy movie, or a follow-up to Taxi Driver, that HF or De Niro should just show up and say the lines - and bow to the new "expert" on the character; the writer/director hired a year or two earlier by the entertainment conglomerate that recently purchased the rights.
And longtime "Taxi Driver" or Indy fans should just accept this new person hired by the new rights holder as "the" expert, and reject any objection the actor has about the iconic character they are so associated with and the direction it's been taken.
Using this logic, Robert De Niro had nothing to do with the creation of Travis Bickle? He showed up to "read the lines"? Did Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan solely create Indy and HF showed up to "read the lines"?
I'm not comparing quality of actors (yes, Hamill is no De Niro), or directly comparing characters in terms of complexity or appeal. I'm talking about the process by which a film character is created.
You appear to be saying that if a new writer/director shows up to write a new Indy movie, or a follow-up to Taxi Driver, that HF or De Niro should just show up and say the lines - and bow to the new "expert" on the character; the writer/director hired a year or two earlier by the entertainment conglomerate that recently purchased the rights.
And longtime "Taxi Driver" or Indy fans should just accept this new person hired by the new rights holder as "the" expert, and reject any objection the actor has about the iconic character they are so associated with and the direction it's been taken.
I don't entirely follow this. Hamill has made it pretty public in his own understated way that he tried to fight Rian throughout the production regarding the character. Rian clearly wasn't interested and the result was the Cynical and pessimistic Luke we got in TLJ. We saw Luke go from being a whiny farm boy, to an optimistic and controlled Jedi knight in the original trilogy. We all followed that journey with him and it was thrown out of the window in TLJ. What is done is done, we can't change that, but to say that Rian Johnson knows the character of Luke more than Mark Hamil is debatable at best... Probably not even debatable actually, he just doesn't. He has created his own version of course which he knows better. But as Hamill said himself, "That's not my Luke" I guess we'll all have to learn to live with that.
This video is over dramatic and edited, but the first 50 seconds highlights this.
These are all great points...you probably got through to me because Taxi Driver is one of my all time favorite films...and perhaps my initial point about Hamill showing up to read the lines was unfairly dismissive to his contributions...with that said, however, the actor's opinion on his character is one of many facets and I do not feel that they retain any final editorial control over the characters that they play especially when the character was created by a writer. Couple things to remember, Hamill wanted TLJ to be all about Luke fighting his "evil twin" (which is why we love him best in front of versus behind the camera) and if anyone has seen the excellent documentary on the TLJ Blu Ray they can see that Hamill's relationship with Johnson's take on Luke was far more nuanced, and positive, than some of the sound bites suggest.
Once this trilogy is finished and all blu ray sales are complete, Hamill will share his true feelings in his memoires.
These are all great points...you probably got through to me because Taxi Driver is one of my all time favorite films...and perhaps my initial point about Hamill showing up to read the lines was unfairly dismissive to his contributions...with that said, however, the actor's opinion on his character is one of many facets and I do not feel that they retain any final editorial control over the characters that they play especially when the character was created by a writer. Couple things to remember, Hamill wanted TLJ to be all about Luke fighting his "evil twin" (which is why we love him best in front of versus behind the camera) and if anyone has seen the excellent documentary on the TLJ Blu Ray they can see that Hamill's relationship with Johnson's take on Luke was far more nuanced, and positive, than some of the sound bites suggest.
Luke Skywalker Fan? You Probably Work In Business: 'Star Wars' Fan Insights From Demographic Data
The average Star Wars devotee is male, aged 18-44, watches science, history and horror TV and works in IT or law.
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THE FORCE IS WITH LUKE: OVERALL CHARACTER POPULARITY
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