Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[TonTon]

Of course she’s a Mary Sue silly, she’s Darth Vader afterall.

Wait until Kylo finds out in IX lol

That would solve everything.

 

[crows]

Thats so amazingly creepy and weird

 

[JAWS]

Then state senator for 8 years, then a US senator for 4. Former Governor's would seem to be the most well equipped but there's not even that great a track record with the last few of those (Clinton, Bush, Carter).

Rey is indeed a Mary Sue though, and it's unfortunate because I really think in TFA they struck gold with Ridley's performance--it dropped off a bit in TLJ as it didn't play to her charm and her dynamic with Finn/Han matched her strengths better than the dynamic with Luke, even though anything with Luke comprised the best parts of the movie for me.

I think as you just mentioned to Khev, the being able to speak Wookie and her quick learning of mind control are perhaps the worst offenses in TFA, some of the rest can perhaps be explained or could have easily been explained. They are also both for the most part completely unnecessary too. They could have had the FO underestimate her and left her in a cell unshackled (like Leia) and have her best a grunt physically.

Voting present does not count also... And you are correct about the governor thing. As I stated, nobody really is all that qualified.

Rey would probably make a good president though..

Also when I use Rey on SW Battlefront 2, I never die.. Never. j/k

 

[Khev]

That would solve everything.

I keep saying that the Friday the 13th Part II finale would be the perfect way to end the Rey/Kylo arc. She puts on Vader's helmet, Kylo freaks out and is paralyzed, she tells him to kneel so she can "knight" him and *slice!*

 

[Khev]

Voting present does not count also... And you are correct about the governor thing. As I stated, nobody really is all that qualified.

Rey would probably make a good president though..

Also when I use Rey on SW Battlefront 2, I never die.. Never. j/k

So you skipped over my post to respond to him. Okay. I understand. When TonTon gets back, I won't get in the way.

 

[JAWS]

I never said that Luke started out as well as her, just that a lot of what people freak out about get a pass when it comes to other characters. If you compartmentalize each one none of it is that big a deal except for her use of the Force. Understanding aliens and droids and piloting the Falcon just makes her a crappy Lando (since he assumedly wouldn't have a hard time avoiding the *ground* when flying, lol.) I don't even think she was as skilled a fighter as the Praetorian Guards, she just had a lightsaber and they didn't. If I remember correctly when that last guard went all "Go Go from Kill Bill" and wrapped her up in his chains she had to turn off the lightsaber and reverse the handle to take him out. If she had a regular sword she couldn't have done that and would have been dead.

Yes she's "better" at more things than Luke but Luke had mentors and princesses constantly urging him to be his best self and join the fight. Rey existed in a vacuum for the most part so her "Mary Sue" qualities (yes I fully admit that with regard to her use of the Force) were more of a dramatic necessity.

It's not like she's the "best in the galaxy" at anything she does, she's just very good at a lot of different things.

I assume all the weapons the guards had were specifically made to deal with Lightsabers.. Otherwise they would have cut threw them all. SO she was doing just fine.. Even with the Kill Bill weapon (which was silly IMO)

As for Rey as a character....

IMO it is a testament to how likable and charismatic the actress is as Rey.. Because her character and Arc is not all that interesting. But the camera loves her and she has a sweetness to her that is undeniable.

But like I just said.. As a character she is not all that interesting.

Well except for the mystery of why she is so good (and now with Luke and Snoke gone) and maybe the best with the force in the galaxy.

 

[TonTon]

Voting present does not count also... And you are correct about the governor thing. As I stated, nobody really is all that qualified.

Rey would probably make a good president though..

Also when I use Rey on SW Battlefront 2, I never die.. Never. j/k

For 3% of around 4,000 votes. You've got some old talking points rattling around in there. I just picked up BF2, did they change the heros vs villains mode? I die so quickly now but you come back as the hero every time instead of a grunt, not sure if I prefer that yet. Always liked slaying a bunch of defenseless grunts with a force throw or the saber.

 

[JAWS]

So you skipped over my post to respond to him. Okay. I understand. When TonTon gets back, I won't get in the way.

I cant find it.. I even went back and looked.. What response are you referring to??

 

[TonTon]

So you skipped over my post to respond to him. Okay. I understand. When TonTon gets back, I won't get in the way.

 

[Khev]

I assume all the weapons the guards had were specifically made to deal with Lightsabers.. Otherwise they would have cut threw them all. SO she was doing just fine.. Even with the Kill Bill weapon (which was silly IMO)

Yes the weapons could endure being struck by a lightsaber but that meant they cancelled each other out. However only Rey's weapon could disappear and instantly reappear at the press of a button which is the only reason she was victorious during the Kill Bill exchange.

As for Rey as a character....

IMO it is a testament to how likable and charismatic the actress is as Rey.. Because her character and Arc is not all that interesting. But the camera loves her and she has a sweetness to her that is undeniable.

But like I just said.. As a character she is not all that interesting.

Well except for the mystery of why she is so good (and now with Luke and Snoke gone) and maybe the best with the force in the galaxy.

I agree that Rey as a character is more likable than interesting, though I was very "interested" to learn who her parents were and why she was so good with the Force so she did have that going for her.

 

[JAWS]

For 3% of around 4,000 votes. You've got some old talking points rattling around in there. I just picked up BF2, did they change the heros vs villains mode? I die so quickly now but you come back as the hero every time instead of a grunt, not sure if I prefer that yet. Always liked slaying a bunch of defenseless grunts with a force throw or the saber.

You can thank Hillary for that talking point.. That is where I remember it from.. I still don't think being a senator makes you all that qualified to be a "Commander in Chief" Same goes for business man. But hey I finally got a tax break after having to pay each year for the last 4 years.. .. Guess if the debt is going to be run up either way I would rather keep my money.. But I hate that both sides cant control the damn spending .

I suck at BF2

 

[Khev]

I cant find it.. I even went back and looked.. What response are you referring to??

I was giving you a hard time for responding to post #21237 before #21236, lol.

What the...

 

[JAWS]

I agree that Rey as a character is more likable than interesting, though I was very "interested" to learn who her parents were and why she was so good with the Force so she did have that going for her.

Not anymore..

 

[JAWS]

I was giving you a hard time for responding to post #21237 before #21236, lol.

Dude I cant keep up with all this.. Its all moving too fast

 

[Khev]

Not anymore..

I'm glad that Rian knew that Luke was the headline act that everyone wanted to see in TLJ. When has any other movie reduced it's primary hero to support character status while the finale's "main event" is focused entirely on another character (Luke.) Even with everything going on in every OT film you still had Luke front and center blowing up the Death Star, facing down Vader by himself, and then doing the same against Vader and the Emperor.

One of the most epic moments in TLJ was once again Rey catching a lightsaber however it was Kylo who took out Snoke and Luke who got the best of Kylo. The closest example I can think of where the main hero was upstaged in a SW film was when Wedge took out the first AT-AT instead of Luke. But Luke still ended up getting one by himself on foot...

 

[JAWS]

I'm glad that Rian knew that Luke was the headline act that everyone wanted to see in TLJ. When has any other movie reduced it's primary hero to support character status while the finale's "main event" is focused entirely on another character (Luke.) Even with everything going on in every OT film you still had Luke front and center blowing up the Death Star, facing down Vader by himself, and then doing the same against Vader and the Emperor.

One of the most epic moments in TLJ was once again Rey catching a lightsaber however it was Kylo who took out Snoke and Luke who got the best of Kylo. The closest example I can think of where the main hero was upstaged in a SW film was when Wedge took out the first AT-AT instead of Luke. But Luke still ended up getting one by himself on foot...

Wedge is the Man! ****** Poe!

 

[jye4ever]

As soon as people started talking **** about a movie Luke Skywalker was in I knew I was going to lose my **** lol

 

[Khev]

Wedge is the Man!

Yeah he is, lol. It should have been Holdo vs. Wedge dammit, curse you Rian Johnson!! :

 

[Khev]

As soon as people started talking **** about a movie Luke Skywalker was in I knew I was going to lose my **** lol

Luke and Deckard now have the best multi-decade record in the history of cinema, lol.

Luke even made it through ROTJ unscathed and that movie tried to make *everyone* lame.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm glad that Rian knew that Luke was the headline act that everyone wanted to see in TLJ. When has any other movie reduced it's primary hero to support character status while the finale's "main event" is focused entirely on another character (Luke.) Even with everything going on in every OT film you still had Luke front and center blowing up the Death Star, facing down Vader by himself, and then doing the same against Vader and the Emperor.

One of the most epic moments in TLJ was once again Rey catching a lightsaber however it was Kylo who took out Snoke and Luke who got the best of Kylo. The closest example I can think of where the main hero was upstaged in a SW film was when Wedge took out the first AT-AT instead of Luke. But Luke still ended up getting one by himself on foot...

Damn that’s an epic post.

JAWS wheel spinning complaint against TLJ is the only complaint still standing that hasn’t been debunked and there’s nothing Khev and I can say to debunk that one lol.

Damn you JAWS