Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[jye4ever]

JAWS is the most reasonable of TLJ haters.

JAWS is now my favorite TLJ hater.

Waverly hunh.....yikes.

I bet there are cows everywhere lol

 

[JAWS]

JAWS is the most reasonable of TLJ haters.

JAWS is now my favorite TLJ hater.

Waverly hunh.....yikes.

I bet there are cows everywhere lol

Most Reasonable and Favorite hater? I will wear that as a badge of Honor

There are cows. Yes.. Everywhere? No. Not like it use to be.. But My wife use to live on a Dairy farm.. How about that?

I love the fact that I married the "farmers daughter"

 

[Chakor]

This movie was made for the sole purpose of earning $ and selling toys (just look at jye's sig of praetorian guard figures, point proven ), so hate is completely reasonable.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Bruce Wayne is Batman for like a total of a year.

Close to two years. He cleaned the city, protected the Dent act, saved the city 3 times before retiring twice, Michael Jordan style. It's fine. Luke left when the battle was just "beginning," according to him.

 

[crows]

WOW!!!! Jye got repilled now OMFG OMG

 

[crows]

Most Reasonable and Favorite hater? I will wear that as a badge of Honor

There are cows. Yes.. Everywhere? No. Not like it use to be.. But My wife use to live on a Dairy farm.. How about that?

I love the fact that I married the "farmers daughter"

thats truly one of the highest fantasies out there... one of the most erotic for sure

 

[Bravomite]

This movie was made for the sole purpose of earning $ and selling toys (just look at jye's sig of praetorian guard figures, point proven ), so hate is completely reasonable.

Haha I disliked this movie but seeing Jye's sig makes me want to order those figuarts praetorian guard figures ... still strong is Lucas Film in its ability to market toys to me

 

[abake]

Oh without question.. I know that I am referring to just my small population size.. I just find that interesting that the people around me line up more with the people here, you tube, and RT.. Maybe everyone in Waverly NY USA wrote all the RT reviews

I agree that trying to negate the films worth by the money it made is a useless task.. But that is why I point to the inflation adjustment which shows that as a SW film goes its not as popular as most of the series...

I tend to disagree with you about this film not making a ton of bank because the wow factor wore off.. It was a Star Wars film.. A Star Wars film that was a follow up to a very popular SW film and A Star Wars film with Luke Skywalker.. If anything I think this film under preformed (adjusted for inflation wise)

Of course it does have to compete with Streaming and all of that so I will grant you that Adjusted for Inflation is not the end all be all but its closer then total Box office I think



Yep.. I have compared it to IM3 also.

As for expectations.. I would agree that some did not like the path it took.. But IMO it still came down to execution with the story and that is what hurt the film.. You can film something the best way possible but if your story sucks.. So what? Kong Skull Isand was beautifully filmed and probably is the story the director wanted to tell.. Why didn't you and Jye like it then? Why don;t I still like it?

There does seem to be a lot of focus on Snoke's back story, What Luke would and Would not do, and Rey's parents.. But there is a lot more issues with this film then just "It did not go the way I wanted it to go"

I would say that is the complaint for most bad films.. It did not go the way we wanted it to go.




Maybe Luke is the major issue for most.. Perhaps I just see the complaints that tend to agree with me and ignore the other issues. But I have seen many complaints about the story structure and the lack of character growth in this film.. Or is that that all just me

I am with you on TDKR and feel that the film hurt the trilogy as a whole.. Jeepers Bruce Wayne is Batman for like a total of a year. Thats just silly.. However I find that the film suffers in many other ways that has nothing to do with Batman.

And that is how I feel about TLJ. Many other issues then just one character.

As for the Avengers.. You are aware he takes off that stupid Helmet during the final battle right?? SO not all is lost

Besides Avengers is way better then TLJ


Anyways.. Why the hell am I back in here discussing this film

Life was much more peaceful in the Statue threads

I guess I just keep coming in here to check on You and Jye just to make sure you are OK.

Agreed on all points.
Unfortunately, a lot of the discussion (and a disproportionate amount of the ire) surrounding TLJ seems to focus on Luke and SJW-ism, when there are many other issues with the story, the characters, the whole way it was executed that make those focal points actually stick out.
I have no problem with a story not going the way I was hoping or expecting it to go, but I do have a problem when it is done in such a way that it dismisses or goes against character traits or the inner logic/lore of the universe it's set in.
You see, I had no problem with Snyder's "deconstruction" of heroes in MoS and BvS, because he was setting up his own universe, his own story with those two archetypes of Superhero-dom. But I did have problems with JL because it went against a lot of what had been set up as to how these characters acted.
Critics and some fans (a lot, I suppose), are hailing how TLJ subverts and deconstructs tropes and expectations for a SW film, but here's the thing: a SW movie within the continuity of the earlier trilogies shouldn't do that. So, from the get-go, it's the wrong approach for the film, IMHO.

 

[DarthBakura]

Khev I walked into TLJ with incorrect expectations.

I’m thinking ok Luke needs his Vader lightsaber moment it must happen or else!

Luke needed to kill 20 stormtroopers or 20 dark jedi with a lightsaber to solidify the true bad *** that he was.

Did those happen, nope!

I was wrong, Vader needed his Vader lightsaber moment not Luke!

Luke even threw away his saber in ROTJ in the throne room during a fight!

Luke was about channeling the will of the force like when concentrating about the exhaust port in ANH.

Luke had his samurai showdown but not with a saber it was with his connection to the force.

That for me was just as exciting to see Luke interacting with the force in that manner as it was seeing Vader’s lightsaber moment in RO.

I thought it was interesting that Luke ended up becoming one of the most powerful Jedi after all. I never really saw him as this great Jedi. He always seemed more like he was just the doe-eyed good guy who stumbled into it.

The fact that he was able to do what he did, for as long as he did, was quite a feat. Of course, they even hinted as such. Granted, it took his life in the end. He’s not immortal.

This movie was made for the sole purpose of earning $ and selling toys (just look at jye's sig of praetorian guard figures, point proven ), so hate is completely reasonable.

The collector toys are sure. And some select troopers/guards.

 

[Khev]

Close to two years. He cleaned the city, protected the Dent act, saved the city 3 times before retiring twice, Michael Jordan style. It's fine. Luke left when the battle was just "beginning," according to him.

Not even close to the same thing though. Luke did what he had to do to save the remnants of the Resistance up to and including sacrificing his own life. He didn't plan to die, as evidenced by his "see ya round kid" to Kylo but in the end the strain was too much and it killed him. Compared to Bruce who just wanted to bail (no pun intended) so that he could fast track an Italian vacation without so much as a word to his replacement or his needlessly grief stricken caretaker.

I'll respond to you at some point JAWS but right now I'm experiencing the joy of watching fans blow air under my carpet after a busted water main flooded my living room.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He didn't plan to die...

That makes it even less heroic. He's lazy too, since he stayed behind and used a hologram. ...and then died. Then again, Luke was never a master strategist.

 

[Khev]

That makes it even less heroic.

Now you're just being silly.

 

[Wor-Gar]

ESB: I can't.... its too big.


TLJ: I can't... its too far.


Yep, same Luke.

 

[YoNoSe]

Luke was always a ****. He had bad genetics AND environment.

But I still luv um.

 

[JAWS]

I'll respond to you at some point JAWS but right now I'm experiencing the joy of watching fans blow air under my carpet after a busted water main flooded my living room.

I think the man upstairs is even trying to tell you something about your opinions of TLJ

 

[JAWS]

thats truly one of the highest fantasies out there... one of the most erotic for sure

 

[Khev]

I think the man upstairs is even trying to tell you something about your opinions of TLJ

 

[Adolfo]

Here's to hoping that the episode 9 title is Star Wars episode 9 The Real Force Returns instead of Star Wars episode Nein Return of the Social Justice Warriors...music by Stomp

All I know is now that now that I know these fem writers (Rian included)are staying up late to read twilight Star Wars fanfic, I can impact the future of Star Wars. I’mma write me some fanfic and do what snikt never did: upload it to that site. I suggest you all do the same!

Mine’ll be about Ghost Luke coming back but being addicted to the teat. He wants to take corporeal form again just to be able to feel the sensation and perfect viscosity of that fresh from the tap alien milk. He’ll do anything to get it and falls to the dark side while still a ghost and possesses Hux (coz he’s a white male). Kylo is still conflicted for a new reason, maybe coz ruling is too hard, and he goes on rants and tells people they don’t know what it’s like

It ends up with him and Rey forced to join each other in an epic battle against Luke wearing a backpack full of ***** milk that’s injected with tubes into his skin like Bane does with venom. They also give him the EU name of Darth Bane. Luke almost kills them but in their final moments they finally embrace, close their eyes and kiss (Reylo!), which causes the force to not only awaken but intensify. With Kylo’s schwartz being the ideal size of 6.5” they take a series of wild swings at Luke which defeats him through the power of true love. There is no redemption for a teat crazed and roided up Luke.

However before a happy ending can prevail for these star crossed lovers, kylo is stabbed in the back by a force pushed broom with its other end sharpened into a shiv. The first order remnants bow down to their new king, and he sets them on a better path of killing every rich person in the galaxy, which neither Rey nor anyone else has a problem with. They all dye their hair and take on the name of the 99%, razing whole planets with no regard to human safety, but their top supervisor Rose (wearing a heavily modified version of Phasmas Armor) always has an ark ship on standby to to tractor beam up the animals. Finn is the first to die in this new escapade.

Epilogue:

It gets a 95% RT critic score and a 51% audience score, still beating out TLJ

Mark Hamill posts ***** milk pictures on national milk day 2019 and says ‘we should have gone with more of Lucas’ ideas’ in interviews, and seems disinterested, but is still less grumpy than after TLJ.

Popnfresh's film > TLJ

The last Jedi is the worst of all star wars movies.. You can take a pile of **** put it in a star wars box and call it whatever you want Disney but its still a pile of **** stuffed in a star wars box. The only thing this trash movie has in common with star wars is artificial (almost like a spoof or spaceballs ripoff); they took star wars characters, scenery and gadgets and inserted them into some **** that isn't star wars at heart. They changed the force so much that the force is now unrecognizable, its more like harry potter magic then anything that was established in previous film cannon, it allows its wielder to do anything. However, unlike harry potter anyone can wield this magic, whores, drunkards, people from broken homes, vagrants, thiefs humans aliens it doesn't matter. Also unlike harry potter, training is not required nor do you need to be from a special lineage or blood line. You are born knowing everything about the force and once it unlocks (like a switch) inside you, you are instantly a grand master of magic. The most important thing in determining your power and your infinity for good or evil is your sex. if you are born female your will be more gifted and powerful, you will always do whats right and just. You will be the light in this world. However if you are born male, you will be inferior and weak, have major character flaws and be influenced by darkness. You will be the evil in the world. There is no jedi, as the crazy old alien ***** sucking dude said, the jedi must end, they are now called the witches of eastwick. Also when you recieve a stick that looks like a broomstick, its not a broom its your new wizards wand. The witches of Eastwick do not use sabers, they are clumsy and archaic since it requires the use of your hands. You no longer need your corporeal body, you have special gifts that allow you to project images of youself all over the galaxy. When all else fails just ask Rey, your savior, she knows everything and can do everything just because she is a woman. If Rey is not around just ask the closest female near you, she will have the answer you are looking for.

Great post....should be printed and on Khev,Jye and Zach's bedroom wall and read every night

Here's hoping for a Netflix documentary called "Dec 2017 the Kennedy Assassination" interviews by Khev,Difabio, and Grace...Jye declined to be interviewed

Being struck by lightning > TLJ

Maybe Luke just mastered force teleport, but he didn't quite get the clothing part right and he'll show up nude on Tatooine in the next movie.

LOL....JJ just read your post...he's taking notes...Luke will reappear naked in the bar at Tatooine ...it'll help save Star Wars after the scroll intro....need ideas for the rest of episode Nein. ..I think Kaiju would help.....one of those dragons vs a saarlac

 

[Captain Clown]

Being struck by lightning > TLJ

Spoiler

 

[jye4ever]

Most Reasonable and Favorite hater? I will wear that as a badge of Honor

There are cows. Yes.. Everywhere? No. Not like it use to be.. But My wife use to live on a Dairy farm.. How about that?

I love the fact that I married the "farmers daughter"

I used to drive upstate for numerous reasons from aunt living near the falls or brothers up at Plattsburgh and all I remember are those damn cows.

Not for me I love being surrounded by a ton of noise lol

This movie was made for the sole purpose of earning $ and selling toys (just look at jye's sig of praetorian guard figures, point proven ), so hate is completely reasonable.

Aren’t they sexy!

WOW!!!! Jye got repilled now OMFG OMG

Yawn Zzzzz

I think the man upstairs is even trying to tell you something about your opinions of TLJ

Crap I just got a flat tire!

Stupid TLJ lol