Dude that does suck about your pipes and living room.. Hope the damage is not too severe.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)
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Dude that does suck about your pipes and living room.. Hope the damage is not too severe.
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Maybe Luke just mastered force teleport, but he didn't quite get the clothing part right and he'll show up nude on Tatooine in the next movie.
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He'll also order a giant glass of blue milk and guzzle it down and after he wipes the remaining dribble from his beard, he'll tell super elderly Wuher it's way better than the stuff on Ahch-To.
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I think that’s the worst insult you can make against TLJ
it’s all overwarcraft > TLJ
Lmao I stand corrected!
I like where this is going... do go on good sir
That’s true -this movie was missing the usual SW big monster that comes along at some point.
The big fish and eel things in 1
The arena monsters in 2
Maybe 3 didn’t have anything? Maybe Grievous counts in a way? Although Palpatine zipping around like that making rawr sounds... lol
4 had the trash compactor monster
5 had the Wampa and asteroid worm thing
6 had the rancor and sarlaac
Missing that old SW spit shine that a monster injection may help with!
Edit: No... wait a minute.... it had the most horrifying monster of them all! The dang lactating sea cow that turns towards the screen after awhile with an expression like a flintstones dino to say ‘Eh... it’s a living’! Nooooooo
Oh thanks, the four hours of moving everything to high ground and then having the water removal team do their stuff was a pain in the ass but I saved all my "stuff." The carpets should be fully dry in a couple days and I'm just renting so any lingering structural damage won't be my problem, lol.
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Absolutely Vader's final scenes in RO are an excellent contrast with Luke's final scenes in TLJ. Also in both ESB and ROTJ Luke basically "wins" by just giving up and then seeing what happens next. Falling backwards off the gantry in ESB and throwing his lightsaber away in ROTJ. In both cases he really had no plan for what came next. But on Crait Luke was the most resolute and in control of any final showdown that we've ever seen him in. It was so awesome to see him finally play the role of Alpha Force-User but in a way that was uniquely character specific and in a way we never could have imagined. I was never even really sure just what I wanted to see Luke do in TLJ but after seeing Rian's story play out all I could think was "yes, that's it."
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As long as you have the high ground.
Yep and it was "Obi-Wan high ground" not "Darth Maul high ground."
Anyways.. Why the hell am I back in here discussing this film
Because deep down you know you love it.
right now I'm experiencing the joy of watching fans blow hot air under my carpet after my busted sense of taste flooded my fave board with haters.
I think the man upstairs is even trying to tell you something about your opinions of TLJ
That makes it even less heroic. He's lazy too, since he stayed behind and used a hologram. ...and then died.Then again, Luke was never a master strategist.
Yeah, you gotta wonder about Luke's thought process after Rey leaves:
"Well, Leia and the last of the Resistance is in trouble, I should go there to help them and-- no, wait... I could just PRETEND I'm there. Much braver. I have no idea what the actual circumstances or situation are on the ground, but I could blow in as a hologram (and no one will ask how the **** I just suddenly appeared in a sealed-off base,) not tell anyone in the Resistance that I'm a hologram and act like I'm really there... and I'll stall for time so they can escape (even though I currently have no knowledge that a "we're surrounded" siege situation even exists) but NOT TELL A SINGLE PERSON this is the plan, you know... just them them FIGURE IT OUT (or... not.)"
"Yup... I'll be able to save the day while phoning it in! It's brave. It's Jedi-like. I won't be in any danger if I limit my time doing it (you know pretend to go behind a lump of salt and disappear, then reappear 10 mins later.) While I prepare to do this, I can check in with ghost Yoda and ask why the **** he didn't use this ability when I went to Bespin to face Vader way too early, where could have helped me.... instead of allowing Vader to beat the **** out of me alone. And Ben... he should have just stayed in his hut after we first met, projected himself to Alderaan to let them know about the plans and that Leia is in trouble/captured, not killed as the Empire is saying - what a dumb-*ss; we had to sell my speeder for a ride and all that danger that was TOTALLY unnecessary."
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Yeah, you gotta wonder about Luke's thought process after Rey leaves:
"Well, Leia and the last of the Resistance is in trouble, I should go there to help them and-- no, wait... I could just PRETEND I'm there. Much braver. I have no idea what the actual circumstances or situation are on the ground, but I could blow in as a hologram (and no one will ask how the **** I just suddenly appeared in a sealed-off base,) not tell anyone in the Resistance that I'm a hologram and act like I'm really there... and I'll stall for time so they can escape (even though I currently have no knowledge that a "we're surrounded" siege situation even exists) but NOT TELL A SINGLE PERSON this is the plan, you know... just them them FIGURE IT OUT (or... not.)"
"Yup... I'll be able to save the day while phoning it in! It's brave. It's Jedi-like. I won't be in any danger if I limit my time doing it (you know pretend to go behind a lump of salt and disappear, then reappear 10 mins later.) While I prepare to do this, I can check in with ghost Yoda and ask why the **** he didn't use this ability when I went to Bespin to face Vader way too early, where could have helped me.... instead of allowing Vader to beat the **** out of me alone. And Ben... he should have just stayed in his hut after we first met, projected himself to Alderaan to let them know about the plans and that Leia is in trouble/captured, not killed as the Empire is saying - what a dumb-*ss; we had to sell my speeder for a ride and all that danger that was TOTALLY unnecessary."
Maybe have Yoda show up there and use his new ghost lightning powers too. It's best to just enjoy the pew pew and say the hell with it.
Not sure what you mean by "Luke basically "wins" by just giving up and then seeing what happens next."
In ESB Luke LOSES a lightsaber battle - "seeing what happens next" and "no plan for what comes next" is kinda a natural thing once you've had your *ss handed to you in battle.
I'd argue that going with Vader would be a "giving up" move - Luke instead gives Vader the middle finger and jumps (though yeah, he's got a few force skills so maybe his thinking is he can figure out something mid-air as he falls - I could never tell if the thing that vacuums him in was random or Luke caused it.)
In ROTJ Luke WINS a lightsaber battle - then pulls a Russell Crowe and refuses to off the vanquished, defying the Emperor (ha! Joaquin would have made a badass Palpy) by tossing his saber. Sure, he has no plan but he's just achieved a chief-badass-of-the-Universe moment in defeating a now-handless Vader - all he's facing at that point is a crusty old codger... who it turns out - unexpectedly - has a few Percy Jackson spears up his kilt.
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Well, he wanted to, but then he saw the empty sleeve...then he jumped
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Well it’s about to pass Frozen into the # 9 spot where it will remain until IW and IX break 1 billion and push TLJ out of the top 10.
Damn and that’s without China, WITHOUT CHINA!
Impressive, most impressive.
Damn and that’s without China, WITHOUT CHINA!
Impressive, most impressive.
... and TLJ, Frozen and even the movie above Frozen on that all-time worldwide chart (HP Deathly Hallows 2) will - by the end of TLJ's run - all end up having earned roughly the SAME AMOUNT in China ($45-60m.)
Maybe have Yoda show up there and use his new ghost lightning powers too. It's best to just enjoy the pew pew and say the hell with it.
I'm seeing a Disney Special Edition of ROTJ... ghost Yoda CGI'ed into the ROTJ throne room scene, ready to go full-prequel with his ghosty-lightning powers on Palps and save Luke... ROTS rematch!
But you know you're in trouble when your key "extension" of force power rules potentially negates the need for most of the story seen in ANH. Ben inside his hut - "It's nice to meet you Luke, but I just need to force project myself to Alderaan and fill them in on everything - I'll just be five minutes." 3/4's of ANH... pooof!
Can't wait to see Leeland Chee's retcon for that - "No, on a Rotten Tomatoes force scale, Ben was Rotten and Luke was Fresh (proven by his ability to change his beard color at will.) No - you can only force-project if you are on Ah-choo island, because it requires consumption of Porg meat. That's it! No... wait..."
Because after both of his encounters with Vader (the first where he "lost" the battle and the second where he "won") the "correct" course of action after the lightsabers were turned off was to give up which is exactly what he did. In ESB he had no other option but to let go of the gantry and in ROTJ he (assumedly) had no other option but to toss his saber. However in TLJ the final duel with Kylo was on his terms from beginning to end as he was both Master and Teacher.
Now the fun (and ridiculously nerdy) part is to try and guess just where the point of no return was for Luke dying. Would he have lived if he had cut short his final sentence? Revealed himself to be non-corporeal earlier during the stand-off? Who knows long he really had but he obviously erred on the side of guaranteeing that the Resistance had every second he could give them.
And unless it's somehow countered in a novel or something I think I'm just going to assume that Snoke's head wounds were the result of effing around with the Force across too great a distance. Maybe when you do something less physical like Force projecting or linking minds you simply run the risk of heart attack, while trying to Force choke someone on the other side of the galaxy risks imploding your own skull (which in my head canon I'm going to pretend that Snoke learned the hard way, simply because I think it's cool.)
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