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But what you've written is the evasion in a nutshell: on the one hand you say that force projection can kill you quickly, that's it's this super-deadly thing - in a matter of minutes. But on the other hand you're defending the idea that a guy who is doing something akin to holding his breath underwater - every second edging him closer to death (you mentioned 5 mins as possibly killing Ben in your previous post) - is sitting down to have a non-essential chat, regardless of who it's with.
Because - you presume - he's "aware of when he feels like he's okay"? Like... you're holding your breath underwater, every second is CRITICAL, and you've got a ton of stuff to do for your plan to save everyone, but... you take your time doing things and you have a farewell chat with gentle wry humor (which comes naturally when you're dying by the second of course,) because you're aware of when you "feel okay" and can use your time "accordingly."
No, actually... you don't. If force projection can kill you even in a few minutes - as you're stating - you hurry to the extreme, you don't sit down and chat. You don't slowly walk out. You don't have gentle wry humor. Because that's filmmakers "having their cake and eating it too" and fans blindly accepting things that make little to no sense.
That's why I so eloquently call it garbage, and that's why you resort to bringing up things like "you're really preoccupied with what room he's in" - because the whole idea of force projection as presented doesn't make sense and you know it.
Oh, it's in the script? What a COINCIDENCE they would have added that.
But no, force texting between Kylo and Rey - using smartphones provided by Snoke and on his data allowance - ISN'T comparable to what Luke does himself AT ALL, even though they deliberately and blatantly drop in that "the effort would kill you" line for apologists to latch onto... for just such a discussion as this one.
But they shot themselves in the foot by doing it - Kylo clearly aware of the possibility of force texting and even detailed knowledge the risks/rules of it (and the suggestion of some equality between force texting and projection) falls flat when Kylo is later totally shocked that Luke isn't really there, apparently totally unaware of even the possibility of force projection. Like, hello Kylo... ?
The TRUTH of the matter is, if Ben had force projection at his disposal in ANH, he WOULD have used it - why wouldn't he? Oh, but no - he wouldn't tell them on Alderaan about absolutely urgent, CRITICAL info about the plans and Leia... because it risked a "confusing sudden appearance to royalty"? Come on, dude.
As if Luke abruptly appearing in a surrounded, air-tight sealed off base, with a black beard and not telling a soul about his plan, why he's there, or how he got past the FO ships - is not confusing and sudden?
I got it. The script is stupid and my suppositions are wrong while you posess the TRUTH.
Roger Roger.
