Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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TFA and RO didn't have much of anything :monkey3
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Not really, TFA didn't have much of an agenda, nor did RO.

You look around that room and you see the whitest ****ing room in the history of time. It’s just unbelievably white. And I just thought, we’re casting this show and we have an opportunity to do anything we want, why not cast the show with actors of color?

I love JJ Abrams, but statements like that where acting caliber is trumped by diversification are idiotic. Its also a disservice to John Boyega because for all we know he was absolutely better than Jesse Plemons as Finn but instead we're informed that it was Boyega's race that beat out Plemons and not his skill.
 
I love JJ Abrams, but statements like that where acting caliber is trumped by diversification are idiotic. Its also a disservice to John Boyega because for all we know he was absolutely better than Jesse Plemons as Finn but instead we're informed that it was Boyega's race that beat out Plemons and not his skill.

Yeah cool, the director had an "agenda" because he wanted diversity in a flick that spans the entire universe filled with different creatures and humans... which has nothing to do with the plot. ffs twist it even more STINK.

Did the movie make a point about race? Nope.
Religion? Nope.
Sexual orientation? Nope.

So, let me ask this, the same people who complain about TFA being a carbon copy of ANH are the same yelling "SJW DISNEY WARZ!", does that make ANH an SJW story? :rolleyes2

seriously, get a ****ing grip m8.

Also, you love TFA so that makes you an SJW.

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Alright someone screengrab the stuff that will soon be deleted so I can have some reading material later today. I have to close down for now. Cheers.
 
Did the movie make a point about race? Nope.

I would disagree with that, there's a line from Finn, I don't know the exact quote, where he's explaining to Rey that Resistance have diverse looks and that was clearly a direct message to be made about race and accepting different people.

There's nothing wrong with media trying to teach acceptance and diversity, but there's a fine line between putting out a message that gets through to people and changes thought, and shoving things in people's face and forcing ideas on them and the media, in wake of all the terrorism and hate crimes and such of the past few years, has been crossing the realm of forced messages. TFA walked that fine line but didn't cross, hopefully TLJ doesn't cross that line.

Movies and music and tv shows are a venu for getting ideas out in the world but they are also entertainment and when something starts to feel like propaganda, it's no longer entertaining and while I have all my past movies I enjoy and can watch for all my remaining years, it would be nice if the media didn't lose sight of their place in the world and kept true to their purpose. I'm sure many films and shows and songs have influenced everyone here without forcing us to agree with their ideas or getting to caught up in the message to care about the delivery.
 
I would disagree with that, there's a line from Finn, I don't know the exact quote, where he's explaining to Rey that Resistance have diverse looks and that was clearly a direct message to be made about race and accepting different people.

There's nothing wrong with media trying to teach acceptance and diversity, but there's a fine line between putting out a message that gets through to people and changes thought, and shoving things in people's face and forcing ideas on them and the media, in wake of all the terrorism and hate crimes and such of the past few years, has been crossing the realm of forced messages. TFA walked that fine line but didn't cross, hopefully TLJ doesn't cross that line.

Movies and music and tv shows are a venu for getting ideas out in the world but they are also entertainment and when something starts to feel like propaganda, it's no longer entertaining and while I have all my past movies I enjoy and can watch for all my remaining years, it would be nice if the media didn't lose sight of their place in the world and kept true to their purpose. I'm sure many films and shows and songs have influenced everyone here without forcing us to agree with their ideas or getting to caught up in the message to care about the delivery.


I've watched the movie 6 or 7 times, and I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 
he's talking about

"you're in the resistance?"
"yeah... i'm in the resistance!"
"you don't look like a resistance fighter!"

which clearly is aimed towards the resistance being mostly full of aliens. not because he's black. which we've seen since 1977.
 
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