Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Cap'n Cook]

Where's IrishJedi? I wonder what he thought about th-

Hope he's got one of these

Ok. What have I missed?!

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Hope he's got one of these

I think his might be brown

 

[guyver1]

Because that's what Palpatine wanted....he totally told Luke that by doing so, he would be corrupt and go to the dark side, which is totally counterproductive if he secretly really wanted Luke to turn evil. Worst trickster ever

Yeah I know it, but still..how did that option all of sudden appear out of no where, I wonder if Anakin or Luke knew that was possible

Luke could’ve saved time doing this

 

[Darkseed]

#canon

Space Leia, Milking Luke, Flopping Yoda all a poke at characters important to old time fans .... pretty clear message imo

 

[Wor-Gar]

Ok. What have I missed?!

You've got to be kidding?

 

[Uncle Bingo]

Ok. What have I missed?!

This was him

https://www.ranchoobiwan.org/sadnews/

 

[xipotec]

Oh you are one of those conspiracy guys that sees a SJW behind every tree branch. Ok. Got it.

So I assume you married a man so you couldn't be accused of marrying of woman because she was a woman.

LOL , lots of conspiracy nutz with that topic in here....

Lots of male testosterone that feels threatened somehow by a movie...


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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

But one day, not so long from now, a new generation will regard us as gods.

 

[Darkseed]

It's no different than when a sports team makes personnel changes. Does it suck? Yeah but it has to happen at some point

Agreed nor do I have any issue with it. It was clear with TFA how the old time characters would be handled so I’m not surprised nor offended by the direction. I am a bit surprised by the reaction of many tho....

I’m simply along for the ride...

 

[Brett Banner]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

After thinking on it a bit- I think the movie failed with fans due to the intent the director had while writing it. To capture the old Star Wars feeling in TFA JJ basically made a soft remake of ANH. Whereas in TLJ it seemed the only goal was the other extreme and to subvert expectations at the expense of telling a good story.

It seemed every scene was - 'think you can guess what's going to happen, what he/ she is going to do? Guess again!' From snokes demise (and no backstory) to Rey's parentage to Luke throwing away the lightsaber and contemplating killing a child in their sleep etc etc it was all meant to surprise by going against everything that the fans had been guessing.

Ultimately it basically explained nothing though - like why is Rey so strong in the force, and able to take on so much with barely any training, whereas kylo was trained by 2 powerful masters. Where was Snoke this whole time (this is only important as he's shown to be more powerful than the emporer - if he hadn't been more powerful it wouldn't matter who he is, we could believe someone just picked up the pieces of the empire)

Even the title for the first time is a misnomer in SW history. In attack of the clones - that's literally what happend. In a new hope or empire strikes back - ditto. For all of the original 6 titles. However Luke clearly says 'I will not be the last jedi' and it flashes over to Rey and they show broom kid at the end, even making the title a subversion.

Rian went so far in one direction just so he could one up the audience all the way through, and he succeeded, but the backlash is making it clear the audience doesn't always appreciate that.

^^^ This EXACTLY. It was like he just wanted to surprise the audience at the expense of story. Reminded me a lot of the storyline with Sansa and Aria on this last season of Game of Thrones. The most egregious example in TLJ the more I think about it is how they surprise you that Luke was actually force projecting and survived Kylo’s lightsaber swipe, only to surprise you again when he ends up dying. I was listening to the Slashfilmcast podcast and one of the hosts was talking about being at the world premiere and it seemed to him that a good portion of the theater was confused or didn’t seem to register that Luke had died in that shot where he disappears. Even I thought it was a bit awkwardly framed/shot.


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[Dagashi Something]

Well, there's at least one reviewer I agree with. This movie was awful.

Spoiler

This film is horrifically boring, disrespectful to its source material, painfully pedantic to hollow philosophy, and without any discernible heart for what makes Star Wars special. The flippant way the characters are handled distracts from the experience all the way to the end of the film. The humor is out of place and falls flat (George Lucas' prequel fart jokes were funnier).

I'm pretty sure the director was urinating on the fan base with that Leia scene (yes, you know the one) and the 'out of range' in a vacuum farce. Johnson completely disrespects everything Abrams built in Force Awakens, destroying great characters and interesting questions. Mark Hamil gives a stellar performance even as Johnson tanks the character into tit-suckling, Skype-kamikazi yogi. Yoda's awkward appearance gives us Johnson's patricidal philosophy that rejects the filial piety that infused earlier Star Wars source material, which is the same philosophy he gives Kylo Ren's character: we only have our identity insofar as we progress beyond our predecessors. As Yoda torches the Jedi sacred texts, so Rian throws the Star Wars series into this bonfire of a catastrophe.

Finally, a word about the critics. The universal critical acclaim for this movie is utter malpractice. There is no galaxy in which the pacing of this movie is acceptable, even if you agree with Johnson's subversive strategy (I get it critics, you go to a lot of movies and you are tired of Joseph Campbell's archetypes). The movie slowly meanders from empty motivation to empty motivation before giving us an empty hologram that disappears. You failed to assess this. Additionally, even though you may resent the Star Wars fandom for its enthusiasm and tradition, you should have the intellectual imagination to note that fans of the source material would be put off by what Johnson has done. I don't know if it's the big party, the media ownership reach, or the sub-par education the opulent years if the US gave us, but something force-skyped the brains of our critics to turn them off when reviewing this film.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

This was him

https://www.ranchoobiwan.org/sadnews/

Wow! Thank you I completely missed this.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Disney got deep pockets. Even while spending 66 billion for an early Christmas gift for itself.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

He stole thousands of dollars worth of Star Wars toys from the Star Wars toy man and is serving time in prison for it.

He was a good friend.

Completely missed that Fabio. Remember him here obviously but wow. That's mad.

 

[Entropy]

Funny, I literally just overheard someone say, "I don't care what sum scientist says, if you get sucked into space yer heads explode." Experts everywhere!

 

[ShadowX81]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

It might have actually been all worth it if this movie was about convincing Luke to come back to the fight, and then Episode 9 was about Luke and Rey defeating the First Order together. Disney gets a young person in the lead. Old fans get a Jedi Master Luke playing a central role in the story and fighting. Could have been cool.

 

[Wor-Gar]

"I don't care what sum scientist says,!

Too much of that going on these days. I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt that read: "Ill-literate and Proud".

And you guys asked why bad movies make so much money.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

I got the impression Luke gave himself over to the force as Obi Wan did....some people think Vader killed Obi, but he disappears before the saber struck.

Same with Yoda. He gave himself to the force.

Luke was taking himself out of the equation...because he knew people were relying on him too much to save the day. That’s what got the resistance in so much trouble....waiting around for Luke to show up and fix everything.




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[Khev]

Re: Star Wars Episode VIII (TBA)

Saw this on a 15/70 IMAX screen projected in 3D yesterday afternoon with the kids after only ever watching the one single teaser trailer from last April. I don't think I've been that unspoiled heading into a new SW flick since the original in 1977! And what a movie to see cold, WOW!

An indescribable experience and an instant masterpiece IMO. Totally on par with the OT and LOTR. It was everything I hoped for and more and contained nothing that I feared. Bravo Disney, LFL, and Johnson. The thrills, drama, surprises, visuals, music and even comedy were a home runs across the board.

BR 2049 and TLJ make for a one-two cinematic punch not rivaled by many a calendar season.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Someone stole Khev's avatar!!!!

Ban him!