Superman (July 11th, 2025)

[intothevoid]

It would have worked fine if they just stuck to the plan.

From what I recall, Dawn of Justice / JL and the unmade final JL movie was all a plan put in place post MoS (influenced majorly by the runaway success of Marvel with the Avengers). There was initially a lot of discussion on a MoS sequel before that morphed into a BvS movie.

Even after BvS came to be there was still talk of a MoS 2 and a solo Batman film directed by Affleck (which eventually became The Batman).

So yeah I don’t think the initially ‘plan’ was for it to be MoS and then no more solo Superman films

So to come back to something that has been discussed ad nauseum in these forums in years past - the big mistake was for D.C. / WB to try to mimick what Marvel was doing when in fact Nolan had provided an entirely different template for D.C./WB with The Dark Knight Trilogy, and with great success. Nolan’s involvement with MoS was ostensibly to provide a similar platform for Superman, and letting Snyder run with it. THAT was the original plan.

Everything DC / WB did post that was reactionary and as a-dev stated, every move made subsequently was the wrong one. No wonder it ended with an incomplete story and multiple box office flops. There can never be any coherence to a plan if you keep making it up as you go along

 

[T8OO]

From what I recall, Dawn of Justice / JL and the unmade final JL movie was all a plan put in place post MoS (influenced majorly by the runaway success of Marvel with the Avengers). There was initially a lot of discussion on a MoS sequel before that morphed into a BvS movie.

Even after BvS came to be there was still talk of a MoS 2 and a solo Batman film directed by Affleck (which eventually became The Batman).

So yeah I don’t think the initially ‘plan’ was for it to be MoS and then no more solo Superman films

So to come back to something that has been discussed ad nauseum in these forums in years past - the big mistake was for D.C. / WB to try to mimick what Marvel was doing when in fact Nolan had provided an entirely different template for D.C./WB with The Dark Knight Trilogy, and with great success. Nolan’s involvement with MoS was ostensibly to provide a similar platform for Superman, and letting Snyder run with it. THAT was the original plan.

Everything DC / WB did post that was reactionary and as a-dev stated, every move made subsequently was the wrong one. No wonder it ended with an incomplete story and multiple box office flops. There can never be any coherence to a plan if you keep making it up as you go along

Batman was in the script for MoS2 before MoS came out. After JL3 and some sort of Flashpoint-style story the universe would have been reset to whatever point to let Snyder move on and whatever actors were going to stay or leave.

 

[ironwez20]

It's hard to put a number on it. I would agree some people genuinely do not like anything Snyder creates and they are very loud about it.

I think if ZSJL actually came out in 2017 (obviously cut down somewhat) it would have clicked with most.

lol I know your not talking about someone being “loud” when a certain group spams hash tags every other day to get seen and won’t let go of a franchise that died years ago. The only ones screaming into the void is you guys.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

lol I know your not talking about someone being “loud” when a certain group spams hash tags every other day to get seen and won’t let go of a franchise that died years ago. The only ones screaming into the void is you guys.

It's both sides. For every Synder bro saying they want it to return, there's an anti Synder person just waiting to insult them for it.

It is definitely not just one sided. Goes the same for JG movies.

 

[intothevoid]

What’s done is done and I don’t see Snyderverse ever coming backing. But I also see a 50% chance of the Gunnverse crashing and burning out of the gates… the only thing positive about being a DC fan at the moment is The Penguin. Also I have to say I’m excited for the Lanterns TV show … let’s see what unfolds

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Agreed. I liked the Synderverse but it's not returning. Folks just love to cheer for something I guess.

 

[ironwez20]

It's both sides. For every Synder bro saying they want it to return, there's an anti Synder person just waiting to insult them for it.

It is definitely not just one sided. Goes the same for JG movies.

Nah. They are annoying. Instead of just letting it go they put down future dc movies that isn’t Snyder and cry about selling it to Netflix. They are def worse. People are tired of them. Like it’s just a movie. Move on. It wasn’t good to begin with. I knew once they got the Snyder cut they’d ask for more.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Nah. They are annoying. Instead of just letting it go they put down future dc movies that isn’t Snyder and cry about selling it to Netflix. They are def worse. People are tired of them. Like it’s just a movie. Move on. It wasn’t good to begin with

You're literally doing the same thing they are.

They cry about it returning, you're crying about them doing it. You're making my point for me.

 

[ironwez20]

You're literally doing the same thing they are.

They cry about it returning, you're crying about them doing it. You're making my point for me.

Not really lol. How am I crying. Cause I say let go of something that’s dead and stop spamming a hash tag every day and move on and insulting people who don’t like synder? Please sit down kiddo. Telling someone to move on isn’t crying

 

[T8OO]

Not really lol. How am I crying. Cause I say let go of something that’s dead and stop spamming a hash tag every day and move on and insulting people who don’t like synder? Please sit down kiddo. Telling someone to move on isn’t crying

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Not really lol. How am I crying. Cause I say let go of something that’s dead and stop spamming a hash tag every day and move on and insulting people who don’t like synder? Please sit down kiddo

At the risk of answering a question with a question, how does fans spamming "restore the Synderverse" effect you? Why engage at all? Just roll your eyes like I do and go on about your day.

lnstead, you'd rather declare that the SV sucks, the fact you like it sucks and that you publicly state that you want it to return sucks.

 

[ironwez20]

When I say Snyder movies suck? Yea it does

 

[ironwez20]

At the risk of answering a question with a question, how does fans spamming "restore the Synderverse" effect you? Why engage at all? Just roll your eyes like I do and go on about your day.

I lnstead, you'd rather declare that the S sucks, the fact you like it sucks and that you publicly state that you want it to return sucks.

lol nah don’t do that little buddy . You said both sides are bad and I gave you an example of why Snyder fans are annoying and loud. Who said I was engaged in it? I gave you an example . I replied to t800s biased comment about people being “loud” about not liking Snyder when his fanbase is even louder and people find it annoying. I saw it with THe Batman . People review bombing the movie cause it’s not Snyder . So yea of course I’m going to be like … yea that fanbase is kinda worse

 

[T8OO]

lol nah don’t do that little buddy . You said both sides are bad and I gave you an example of why Snyder fans are annoying and loud. Who said I was engaged in it? I gave you an example . I replied to t800s biased comment about people being “loud” about not liking Snyder when his fanbase is even louder and people find it annoying. I saw it with THe Batman . People review bombing the movie cause it’s not Snyder . So yea of course I’m going to be like … yea that fanbase is kinda worse

 

[ironwez20]

Just like you wishing the Snyder verse would be restored

 

[Wor-Gar]

Snyder fans attack Mookie...