Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[DiFabio]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Why does Pops tell the T-800 "I've been waiting for you." How is that tactically advantageous? "Good" Arnold in T2 never said stupid pointless crap like that before engaging an enemy.

Because Pops isn't a T-800 or a cyborg. It's just Arnold Schwarzenegger being Arnold Schwarzenegger in a vehicle for Arnold Schwarzenegger shenanigans, just like in T3 where the humor is at the expense of the "character".

Under Cameron's direction, the T-800s were ****ing robots. They were cold and machine like unless they learned some personality (**** you ass hole, Hasta la vista, etc.). We weren't laughing at them because they were dead serious. Even "I'll be back" was subtle and more of a matter of fact, "stay here, I'll be back", not a "lolz, he said it" moment.

When the T-800 saw Sarah in Tech Noir, he wasn't like "hello" before pulling out his gun. When the T-800 and T-1000 meet for the first time in the hallway of the galleria, they don't say a word to each other because they're programmed the same way. It's nothing but glances and looks. If he didn't have something important to say, he didn't talk. Since T3 though, it's all about treating the Terminator as Arnold with awkward humor.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Seeing an endoskeleton aiming from the iron sights still bothers me way too much.

It does look strange because we never saw an endoskeleton wield a weapon like that before but in T1 Arnie looks down the sights of the AR-18 when he's firing at the escaping Reese and Sarah after the police station assault.

The one downside to T2 - once you humanize the Terminator, he's gonna say and do stupid ****. And the audience will come to expect/accept it.

This. And yet there was still some restraint in T2, particularly in the theatrical cut which didn't have the smiling scene. But with T3 and now T5, not only does the action get escalated so too does the humour and the Arnie-isms and they obviously feel that's the only way to go.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Movie looks incredible. Can't wait.



This looks pretty good too. May be worth a look.

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

It does look strange because we never saw an endoskeleton wield a weapon like that before but in T1 Arnie looks down the sights of the AR-18 when he's firing at the escaping Reese and Sarah after the police station assault.

You're right, but then he was pretending to be a human, I understand that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but we never saw an actual endoskeleton aiming that way, did we? Cause there's no reason to pretend you need to aim that way, that's my reasoning, anyway.

 

[Khev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Since T3 though, it's all about treating the Terminator as Arnold with awkward humor.

It's true. I was dissing the idea of them retreading T2 but they're going one step farther. They're actually trying to do T3 again. I've got to imagine that Arnold simply doesn't care and just wants to screw around on set and collect a paycheck at the end of the day.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

You're right, but then he was pretending to be a human, I understand that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but we never saw an actual endoskeleton aiming that way, did we? Cause there's no reason to pretend you need to aim that way, that's my reasoning, anyway.

Well, he had just wiped out the police station while being shot and not appearing to be wearing body armour - I don't think he was concerned with any pretence at that particular time in T1. And even if there were witnesses across the road or someone hiding behind a parked car who saw a guy not looking down the sights of his assault rifle while discharging it - they wouldn't assume from that that this guy mustn't be human, they'd just think ''wow, that guy's being a bit haphazard in his use of that gun, how does he think he's gonna hit anything?''

I suspect maybe the machines do need to use the gun like that (Not that it actually made any difference, he still misses)

 

[crows]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

i cant believe the cgi in T2 looked better..... wtf are these people doing?

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Arnold is just glad he's still getting any work, he doesn't care I think he would do anything these days. Just goofing around on set and collecting his cheque.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

I'm convinced Genisys (shudder) is a two-hour exercise in trolling. From the ridiculous name to the odd casting choices, to showing us familiar scenes, characters and plot points before reimagining all of it, it's pretty evident that they're ******* with us.

After the credits are done rolling, we're going to see Arnie sitting in a lawn chair, chomping on a stogie. He's going to take a long pull, blow all of the smoke into the lens and say, "**** ***, ********!" before doing the Arnie laugh.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Arnold is the one laughing lol. Ill be back line again pathetic.

 

[crows]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

I'm convinced Genisys (shudder) is a two-hour exercise in trolling. From the ridiculous name to the odd casting choices, to showing us familiar scenes, characters and plot points before reimagining all of it, it's pretty evident that they're ******* with us.

After the credits are done rolling, we're going to see Arnie sitting in a lawn chair, chomping on a stogie. He's going to take a long pull, blow all of the smoke into the lens and say, "**** ***, ********!" before doing the Arnie laugh.

some have said it is indeed meant to flop and burn in the box office.

that the plan is for Cameron to take the franchise back...

read it here:
4 Signs the New 'Terminator' Movie Is Doomed | Cracked.com

 

[Rotfish]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

"This time there are two."

"This time he's back for good."






"This time it's war?"

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Because Pops isn't a T-800 or a cyborg. It's just Arnold Schwarzenegger being Arnold Schwarzenegger in a vehicle for Arnold Schwarzenegger shenanigans, just like in T3 where the humor is at the expense of the "character".

Under Cameron's direction, the T-800s were ****ing robots. They were cold and machine like unless they learned some personality (**** you ass hole, Hasta la vista, etc.). We weren't laughing at them because they were dead serious. Even "I'll be back" was subtle and more of a matter of fact, "stay here, I'll be back", not a "lolz, he said it" moment.

When the T-800 saw Sarah in Tech Noir, he wasn't like "hello" before pulling out his gun. When the T-800 and T-1000 meet for the first time in the hallway of the galleria, they don't say a word to each other because they're programmed the same way. It's nothing but glances and looks. If he didn't have something important to say, he didn't talk. Since T3 though, it's all about treating the Terminator as Arnold with awkward humor.

Well said.

Hollywood should be terminated aaand... you're welcome.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

These are my favorite teasers.

 

[crows]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

reading some of the comments online, this guy said it best


"The trailer oozes a scene of 7 executives sitting around a table saying "What do you think kids these days think is cool? What would sell tickets?"

Lets throw in a spear-chucking t-1000, some new age ninja action, and lots of cgi.

I'm a huge T1, and T2 fan, particularly of the first movie.

Sarah Connor of t1 and t2- screamed realistic badass chick, she had developed characterization over the course of both films.

This girl or whoever the teenager girl is... yeah. It's like they dumped Ellen Page into the terminator series.

Now featuring the wise-crackin', endoskeleton butt kickin', pg-13, gen X,Y,Z relateable Ellen Page!

The action looks entertaining but this looks so CORNY. Everything about it screams trying to be cool- the spear throwing, the mimicking of scenes from T1 and T2...the cgi.
Even the new Endoskeleton face designs look like they are trying hard to be "scary and angular" yet they still pale in comparison to the blocky, more human yet more terrifying T1 and T2 faces. "

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

These are my favorite teasers.

I'll always love the original film more, but jeez.

That teaser for T2 is ****ing incredible.

 

[Brainiac]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

I'll always love the original film more, but jeez.

That teaser for T2 is ****ing incredible.

indeed! that was pretty cool

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

"This time there are two."

"This time he's back for good."






"This time it's war?"

"This time he's back...for good."

Get it? Get it? Clever, huh?

Yeah, they're covered in nacho cheese. But think of the movies!

 

[Is-rael]

Is this on the same level as AVP Requiem?

 

[Platty]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Wtf did I just watch.

So I guess the series still ended at 2 for me. Man.