When I first heard about The Expendables, I thought the premise was going to be that something brings these '80s/'90s actions heroes together for one last mission. The whole thing goes sideways, with most of them dying or sacrificing themselves (Aliens style), with only one or two surviving to the end (or hell, all of 'em die so that someone else can make it out). I thought that would've been a really cool bookend to all the indestructible action hero properties from the past. I was disappointed to hear that it was just more of the same (saw a clip recently with Sly and Arnold in a church meeting Willis... ugh). Damn that Hollywood dollar!Christ. This would have looked ridiculous with a young Arnold T-800. It looks beyond absurd now.
It's why I haven't enjoyed a Die Hard movie since 1995, a Terminator movie since 1991 or any of the Expendables movies. The constant escalation of stunts and action despite the actors and characters being decades older. Old men doing superhuman things that even their younger selves wouldn't have done in the movies of the 80s. There's no restraint whatsoever, just a bunch of Rick McCallums saying 'Yes' to everything no matter how ****ing inane the idea.
And as Difabio said, the T-800 is going to survive this skydive into a helicopter. He'll lose some flesh and he'll have a limp. This same stunt would have demolished the T1 and T2 T-800s. The non-Cameron films have amped up the T-800's invulnerability to ridiculous levels. Sorta like John McClane in Die Hard. Seems the older he gets the more he can take....doesn't it go the opposite way in real life?
When I first heard about The Expendables, I thought the premise was going to be that something brings these '80s/'90s actions heroes together for one last mission. The whole thing goes sideways, with most of them dying or sacrificing themselves (Aliens style), with only one or two surviving to the end (or hell, all of 'em die so that someone else can make it out). I thought that would've been a really cool bookend to all the indestructible action hero properties from the past. I was disappointed to hear that it was just more of the same (saw a clip recently with Sly and Arnold in a church meeting Willis... ugh). Damn that Hollywood dollar!
And yes, of all the ridiculous Terminator stuff we've seen, the idea of an endoskeleton surviving a direct hit with helicopter blades is ludicrous. I liked the fact that they were hard to kill, but not nigh-impossible, and even fairly easy with the right weapons (in the future).
Edit: Sachiel, that's classic, haha. Great gif that sums up the ridiculousness of it all. The thread can be closed now. No further commentary required.
If I could, I would rep both you and DiFabio for using the word "nigh." The English language ain't dead yet (despite my concerted efforts to kill it ).
- give Dave $25
- give me some rep
- pass go and collect nothing
Can I have some imaginary rep too, please, YankeesFanboy? I've not used that word in any sentences yet, so give me a moment.
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I'm a big fan of the great British actor Bill Nighy.
Is that close enough?
No one is ever happy anymore.
I look forward to this movie. There are a couple things in the trailer I didn't like. But that happens in every trailer I see. Ill be in the theaters seeing it in July and Ill buy it on Blu-ray when its released.
How do you know you'll be buying it on Blu-ray? What if you don't like it?
Nah, you love purified and glorified essence of it. You love brainless fan service and there's nothing wrong with that.I love Terminator.
That's what Id like too.. but we're not going to get it. Nothing is ever going to be like the good'ol days and that's just how it is.Just keep in mind - this franchise started as a serious sci-fi action thriller and most of its fans want that instead.
Yup, and T2 started with the jokes.
It did. There's no denying that all Terminator films since have looked at T2 as the benchmark, the one with the magic formula to copy and escalate again and again. And while I love T2 and consider it the last film in real Terminator canon I believe everyone should have been looking at the first film as a guide to the tone, the characters, the dialogue, everything. When you base each successive film on a sequel as opposed to the original, great though that particular sequel was, you're just further and further diluting the whole thing and moving away from the original intent of this story - to the point where it is impossible to consider a film like Terminator 3 as part of the same fictional universe as the original. And all signs point to T5 being likewise.
Second downside of T2 - the Terminator as protector.
*********, I really love T2. All of these crappy movies have me questioning my affinity for it.
I agree. T2s funny bits were at least funny.
I'm obviously a huge fan of T2 as my toy collection is testament to. It's a fact however that ever since that film they just refuse to get away from this goodie Terminator thing and it really diminishes Terminators and Skynet as villains when there's an invulnerable goodie Terminator to counter every baddie Terminator. I don't think T2 itself deserves any hate, it was the best thing for that film to do at that time and it did it really well. But once was enough. Unfortunately all the studios see (no matter which ****in' studio it is) is the money that film made (along with the main star's preference for playing the hero) and so they just keep repeating that scenario over and over. Arnie, we love him, but he has forgotten how to play the role and James Cameron is no longer there to rein him in. So he just goes along with whatever stupid lines they give him no matter how un-Terminator like they are. The writers, the storyboarders and CG guys are making him do the most ridiculous OTT crap because they can and we're getting what we're getting now.
Yeah, it was humour arising naturally from the situation and, at the time, the novelty of a Terminator interacting with humans and not killing them.
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