Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[Wor-Gar]

"ALIEN makes Raiders of the Lost Ark look like a cartoon."

A View to a Kill is a "classier" action move than Raiders.

I know now why you cry.

 

[Khev]

The daughter and I went to see this yesterday. Overall we liked it; didn't love it. Daughter's comment after leaving the theater was "I know why it's rated PG-13."

Funny the things that bother one about movies. I didn't like the 3 guys they picked to be punks. No tire treads on his face. That was stupid even for the 80's, but should've been kept. I don't even think he had the gap teeth. I know things have changed and I guess because Pops was sent back Punk's parent got him braces. Reese measuring the Nikes; it was like an actor going through the motions and not thinking about how that would look in real life. Why were Sarah and Reese left alone in the hospital in 2017? I know it moves the story along, but it still bugged me. As many others have stated many bugs in this movie, but if you just enjoy it as a summer movie you'll be all right. If you go in expecting Terminator badass it ain't.

What's funny is that while none of the "retread" moments will be anywhere near as iconic as those same moments in the 1984 original the punks in the new movie were actually much better actors and delivered their lines much more naturally than Paxton's crew.

 

[JacktheRipper]

What's funny is that while none of the "retread" moments will be anywhere near as iconic as those same moments in the 1984 original the punks in the new movie were actually much better actors and delivered their lines much more naturally than Paxton's crew.

Trust me, watching T1 in the theater I cringed watching that whole scene at how bad and awesome it was all at once. It seems they paid more attention to the trash truck scene then this one. Even though the driver should have been heavier set.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

"I need to use the bathroom..." DUN DUN DUN DUN!! DUN DUN DUN DUN!!! I was watching behind the scenes footage and in that "I've been waiting for you" scene, there was a guy with a string behind Arnie pulling the hoodie down.

 

[Wor-Gar]

"Excuse me while I whip this out." Dun-dun da-dun. Dun-dun da-dun.

 

[jye4ever]

The lackluster home field reception for Paramount's Terminator Genisys, which has a three-day estimate of $28.7M and a five-day estimate of $44.1M, calls into question the domestic box-office draw of Arnold Swarzenegger and the overall viability of the once-redoubtable Terminator franchise itself.



After all 2009's Terminator Salvation opened in 3,530 venues with a three-day estimate of $42.6M, a $12,056 per screen average. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, made $44M in 3,504 theaters, a $12,568 average on its three-day July 4th weekend in 2003. Terminator Genisyswas in 3,758 theaters yet only made a $7,637 average.



Overseas coin, however, the likely reason that anyone revisted making another Terminator in the first place, looks like it might save the day. Grosses came in at $74M from 44 markets over the weekend and an $85M international cume.



Terminator Genisys opened at #1 in Russia ($12.5M at 1,150 locations), Korea ($11.1M from 1,275 venues), Mexico ($6.2M from 670 locations), India ($2.8M from 600 venues), Malaysia ($2.3M at 131 sites), Taiwan ($2.1M at 80 locations), Hong Kong ($1.9M from 44 venues), and Ukraine ($666K from 235 locations). Though not landing at the #1 spot it has also opened in the UK ($5.6M from 536 sites), France ($3.8M at 680 locations), Brazil ($4M from 549 cinemas), Australia ($4.7M at 258 cinemas), the Philippines ($1.4M at 149 sites), and Venezuela ($2.4M at 75 venues).



It has yet to open in Germany and Italy, which it does on July 9th and the next day in Spain and Japan. A release date has yet to be chosen for China.



At Genisys's reported pre-advertising cost of $155M it will be the international markets that dictate whether we will be hearing of Skynet and Judgment Day in the near future. Given that Paramount has two more Terminator films slated to go, in 2016 and 2017, all eyes will be on those rollouts.



Ted 2 had a -67% drop off from last week, making $11M for the three day and $ 17.3M for the five day holiday. Its domestic cume stands at $58.3M. Internationally Ted has marked about 50% of the available territories adding $8.8M to its international total of $36M for a worldwide cume of $94.3M. It will open in the U.K. and Ireland, Poland, Turkey and Peru next weekend.



If things don't turn around, which seems unlikely, we're more likely to see more Terminators than we are more teddy bears.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'll always think of Terminator as one of the greats from the 80's.

The modern triad of movie monsters -- Alien, Terminator, Predator -- was born of the 80's and shall always live there.




PS: $44 million in 5 days on the July 4th wknd is a solid bomb. That's not even $10 mil a day. And since overseas generally does double the domestic, $85 total is a bomb. Paramount hasn't even recouped its budget let alone the other $150 million in advertising.

I think its back to TV for this franchise. Gonna be a Netflicks miniseries or something.

 

[cmiller99]

The scene where they are in their bunker loading clips was a bit strange, didn't the T 800 have like 30 years to load some damn clips? Also, Sarah picking a bus out of all the possible options available to escape was beyond dumb. Why would you pick a vehicle that is hard to move, not fast, no maneuverability? I guess the director really wanted that bus flip for the trailer

This did concern me a lot when I first saw the movie. There were motorbikes and cars... why a school bus?

I'll always think of Terminator as one of the greats from the 80's.

The modern triad of movie monsters -- Alien, Terminator, Predator -- was born of the 80's and shall always live there.

 

[cmiller99]

Half in the Bag is up I'm going to watch it now.

 

[jye4ever]

I'll always think of Terminator as one of the greats from the 80's.

The modern triad of movie monsters -- Alien, Terminator, Predator -- was born of the 80's and shall always live there.




PS: $44 million in 5 days on the July 4th wknd is a solid bomb. That's not even $10 mil a day. And since overseas generally does double the domestic, $85 total is a bomb. Paramount hasn't even recouped its budget let alone the other $150 million in advertising.

I think its back to TV for this franchise. Gonna be a Netflicks miniseries or something.

Yup, I could care less if another one of those 3 are ever made again, we already own the real stuff.

There is nothing in TG that I feel the need to revisit, if i'm craving their stories then i'll just watch the originals.

 

[spindrift]

Paramount continues to put a brave face on the box office. President insists that numbers are good (no comment on sequels). Arnold wants the fans to rally.

 

[ebor]

Saw Genisys last night: pleasantly surprised, pretty good flick; solid 7.5/10

 

[spindrift]

Saw Genisys last night: pleasantly surprised, pretty good flick; solid 7.5/10

I enjoyed it, 6.5/10. The second half was more retread about blowing up/stopping Skynet- they seriously need to abandon this tired set up/plot if they ever make another.

 

[Wor-Gar]

So odd the mild-to-almost positive reviews... yet the box office would have you believe people are coming out of the theater demanding their money back.

I think lack-of-interest is killing this movie, not bad word-of-mouth.

 

[jye4ever]

The time travel stuff has diluted "Judgement Day" to a point where it no longer has any meaning, what was once tragic is now a silly plot device with perpetually changing dates.

1997
2004
2017
20.......
blah blah blah....who cares anymore.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Yeah, it does seem like there's no longer any threat as long as you can go to the time machine and erase it all by changing time-lines.

Stupid JJ Abrams for popularizing this idiotic mind-game on Lost. It never works; its always ultimately unsatisfying.

 

[jye4ever]

It worked so well in T1/T2 because it had a fulfilling resolution.

Once you keep going back to that well.......the ideas run dry and all you're left with is a countdown clock to an evil Xbox cloud computer.

All your saved games and family photos are belong to us.

 

[EVILFACE]

Half in the Bag is up I'm going to watch it now.

I made it to 1:45......

TG still made more money and more views than they ever will.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Terminator Genisys opened at #1 in Russia ($12.5M at 1,150 locations)

Riddick after he saw the good news

 

[Wor-Gar]

The whole time thing is a ridiculous conceit if you really think about it. An alternate timeline for any and all options. Meaning there's a timeline for my life with my hair parted to the right and one for my hair parted to the left. And for the tree outside to have one leaf facing north, then another timeline for two leaves facing north and so on, and so on, with every atom in existence just slightly off.

That's a man-made brain-****, nothing more.

And IF it did exist, you could never cross into another line. The genius of Ghostbusters is that they understood that you "can't cross the streams". If you did, and you jumped into an alternate timeline -- just that action would destroy your current timeline and the new one... by definition.