Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yeah that's absolutely right. I think not only does it shortchange us on emotional impact the film might otherwise have had by having the Reese character be so unlike the original, I also think it's a disservice to the character and Biehn's performance of that role - that it wasn't deemed important enough to get someone who could keep it consistent to Biehn. Heck even Jason Clarke said he looked at Edward Furlong's John Connor to guide his own performance FFS. But with Kyle Reese it apparently didn't matter at all?

And if Arnie thinks Courtney was perfect for the role (as per one of those promotional interviews) I wonder how much value he places on the Reese character. I don't think I've ever heard Arnie talk about Michael Biehn in T1.

It's was a choice, unfortunately. Here's what Courtney had to say when asked about Kyle Reese.

To be honest … I don’t pay any attention, really, to how the role has been played before. I might watch [previous works] for a point of reference as far as the world or the style [and] genre of filmmaking, but I [have been] asked if I studied Michael Biehn’s performance [as Kyle Reese] in the first “Terminator” and I’d be crazy to go and do that. It’s not going to translate, and I wasn’t hired for the job to emulate someone else’s performance. It’s a standalone film and the character’s changed. The writing’s changed.

It’s not to say we abandoned all the setup. He’s still a soldier in John Connor’s army fighting the resistance, and he still has the task of saving Sarah Connor, but that’s virtually all that links the two. I just can’t see it being interesting as a performer nor it being interesting for the audience if I was trying to go in there and just steal things from someone who’d played that role already. I think there’s archetypal similarities you’ll get with doing a role like that, and you can pluck influence from other actors or other performances, but it certainly wasn’t a concern of mine to try and hit specific things.

 

[cmiller99]

But he's playing the same character!

 

[jye4ever]

Tool bag.

 

[Wor-Gar]

He sounds entitled.... and too busy to learn his craft.

Jason re-watched Furlong's performance for nuances. He went thru the torture of watching that little brat over and over. Now that's dedication.

 

[fosing]

lazy azz of an excuse. that's jai hoe for you.

new writing should have him killed off ffs.

 

[a-dev]

It was a choice, unfortunately. Here's what Courtney had to say when asked about Kyle Reese.

.............and this is the Kyle Reese that

Spoiler

doesn't die.

Condolences on our loss.

 

[a-dev]

He sounds entitled.... and too busy to learn his craft.

Jason re-watched Furlong's performance for nuances. He went thru the torture of watching that little brat over and over. Now that's dedication.

Respect for Jason Clarke. But any I had for Courtney just drained away after reading Clown Prince's quote.

 

[jye4ever]

.............and this is the Kyle Reese that

Spoiler

doesn't die.

Condolences on our loss.

 

[JacktheRipper]

Question:

Spoiler

Did Connor tell Sarah and Reese he traveled back in time when they met at the hospital?

 

[Wor-Gar]

So are these the two choices for revisiting franchises we have in lieu of creativity:

1) recast a key role with douches...

OR

2) bring back the original old farts even when they don't look good and can't act...


Man, the world is tough today.

 

[jye4ever]

Da Force Awakens is combining both of those choices.

 

[fosing]

.............and this is the Kyle Reese that

Spoiler

doesn't die.

Condolences on our loss.

i hope that jai hoe reese doesnt get laid.

let somebody else get to father jane connor.lolz

 

[Wor-Gar]

Da Force Awakens is combining both of those choices.

So did Genisys.

*add Arnold with cheesy grin Terminator pic*


I think the old farts are winning.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Da Force Awakens is combining both of those choices.

They are recasting a role? Who?

 

[YankeesFanboy]

It's was a choice, unfortunately. Here's what Courtney had to say when asked about Kyle Reese.

"To be honest … I don’t pay any attention, really..."

You don't say?

 

[The Ween]

Wow, you guys think that Jai is a ****** because he didn't emulate Biehn's Reese? As if any of the characters in this movie were like the originals. I'd take Biehn's Reese over Courtney's any day, but this guy did okay with what he was given. Him studying Biehn wouldn't have made a difference.

Meanies!

 

[DiFabio]

I liked Jai Courtney in Jack Reacher, he was good.

I didn't like him in Die Hard 5 or Terminator 5 though. Other than Jason Clarke and JK Simmons, I thought everyone sucked in Genisys, even Arnold.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Ween, Jai Courtney is a ****** because...Jai Courtney is a ******.

I think Blade said it best...JC has a punchable face.

 

[The Ween]

Ween, Jai Courtney is a ****** because...Jai Courtney is a ******.

I think Blade said it best...JC has a punchable face.

I don't know him from Adam. I think this is the first I've seen of him.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

I don't know him from Adam. I think this is the first I've seen of him.

It doesn't help that he's had major roles in mediocre, at best, movies in TWO beloved franchises.

Which is why he's gonna be cast as Sonny Corleone in a Godfather prequel.