Thanos and Mistress Death Polystone Diorama

filip629 · Oct 23, 2010

divo said:
Saying that Sideshow's version of Thanos is superior to Bowen's is not a question of logic, but one of opinion.

I didn't call you naive because you liked SSC's Thanos better than Bowen's. I called you naive and :cuckoo:

because you made a blanket statement that ALL of SSC's pieces are better than Bowen's. To make such a statement means you are either extreme or :cuckoo:

. If you can't see how crazy a statement like that is....then there is no longer a point in discussing it.

Back to Thanos. The Bowen Thanos is a better sculpt. The pose, his face, and costume are all superior to SSC's Thanos. SSC's base is the bomb though. As for the color scheme of the Bowen Thanos, that was not Randy's fault. He has said numerous times that the Thanos sample he sent to Marvel for approval had the navy blue color in his costume. Marvel rejected it and insisted on the baby blue color. He had no choice but to comply if he wanted to release the statue. When I have the spare $$$, I'll have my Bowen Thanos repainted to his navy blue color. However, even if I leave it as is...it's still better than SSC's. That is my opinion. :wave

Last point....you need to grow some thicker skin. People will disagree with you, that is a fact of life. It's the way you are dealing with it that is causing all this drama for you. If you keep it up, people will start calling you diva instead of divo. Welcome to the forum.

risingstar · Oct 23, 2010

Skiman said:
Death to Selene.... GO!

SELENE or FAIL!!

coupstair · Oct 23, 2010

i just want my EX to have light up eyes, and that, would be the best.

Judgepup · Oct 23, 2010

coupstair said:
i just want my EX to have light up eyes, and that, would be the best.

Light up eyes would rule. Is that confirmed or just rumor? With respect to the comparisons between Sideshow's Thanos dio and Bowens effort, I do prefer the face sculpt on The Bowen Thanos but for the high price it's fetching on eBay is a bit out of reach for most of us. For the price and what you get with it, the SS dio is a nice consolation for those of us that don't own a definitive Thanos piece. Speaking personally, I'm a big fan of dios in particular so the SS piece fits my tastes nicely.

fuzzylojiks · Oct 23, 2010

..and real gems in the gauntlet too.

Hulksmashed · Oct 23, 2010

...and an infinity gauntlet that actually works!!

fuzzylojiks · Oct 23, 2010

Hulksmashed said:
...and an infinity gauntlet that actually works!!

was gonna write that next!

traylorc · Oct 23, 2010

Hulksmashed said:
...and an infinity gauntlet that actually works!!

I second this.....

divo · Oct 24, 2010

risingstar said:
This is your way of being civil and constructive?
I shudder to ask what you might actually describe as being rude.

P.S. Divo, you appear to have illustrated a remarkably poor insight into how your behavior might have contributed to you being rejected by others in this thread. Should you wish to turn things around for yourself, you'll likely need to start with realizing that you do not speak for anyone else but yourself. Otherwise, you'll quickly learn that no one will care to hear what you have to say.

As far as being civil & constructive, I was referring to my postings directly to Sideshow, & not to some of the labeling, name calling members here. Secondly, I never claimed to be speaking on behalf of anyone but myself. And thirdly, assuming you're a Habs fan, what should make you really shudder, is how team management has trashed this team for the last 15 years! Cause I was there when the Montreal Canadians were a dynasty, & possibly the best run team in all of professional sports.

divo · Oct 24, 2010

filip629 said:
I didn't call you naive because you liked SSC's Thanos better than Bowen's. I called you naive and because you made a blanket statement that ALL of SSC's pieces are better than Bowen's. To make such a statement means you are either extreme or . If you can't see how crazy a statement like that is....then there is no longer a point in discussing it.

Back to Thanos. The Bowen Thanos is a better sculpt. The pose, his face, and costume are all superior to SSC's Thanos. SSC's base is the bomb though. As for the color scheme of the Bowen Thanos, that was not Randy's fault. He has said numerous times that the Thanos sample he sent to Marvel for approval had the navy blue color in his costume. Marvel rejected it and insisted on the baby blue color. He had no choice but to comply if he wanted to release the statue. When I have the spare $$$, I'll have my Bowen Thanos repainted to his navy blue color. However, even if I leave it as is...it's still better than SSC's. That is my opinion.

Last point....you need to grow some thicker skin. People will disagree with you, that is a fact of life. It's the way you are dealing with it that is causing all this drama for you. If you keep it up, people will start calling you diva instead of divo. Welcome to the forum.

To be fair, I may have been a bit too extreme in my initial statement, that's because I feel that BOWEN IS WAY OVERRATED, again,IMO. A more truthful statement would have been that anything Martin Canale/Gore Grp., or Pablo Viggiano/ Viggiano studios sculpts, are way superior (yes, in every way) to anything Bowen. In truth, these are the only two artists I collect from Sideshow's marvel line, because they are heads & horns above anything else out there, again, IMO.
Regarding Bowen's Thanos baby blue, & loud gold hues? Bowen's explanation seems lame at best, & downright bull at worst. I find it hard to believe that marvel would veto the royal blue color scheme in favor of the baby blue (though stranger things have happened). I mean the Bowen Thanos bust does seem to sport the royal blue color, so why would this pass marvel's approval? And you called me naive? Maybe I should label you as gullible? Lastly, regarding color scheme, I would strongly advise you to NOT ALTER THE BOWEN THANOS COLORS!!!!! This would be akin to messing with the patina of antique furniture, which would result in a substantial reduction in value to your statue. Another piece of advise, ( which you don't have to take, nobody is holding a gun to your head!), is sell your Bowen Thanos while the market value is still high. Cause once the Sideshow version is released, & people have a chance to compare them side by side, I predict the Bowen version's value will decline; which would be good for the collectors who still felt that the bowen version is superior, & would be able to pick it up at a much more reasonable price.
As for thicker skin? I've decided to wear full body armor anytime I dare voice an opinion in the future. And I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I just feel that there should be a more insightful, thoughtful, & positive way of doing it. No childish, or labeling comments.

P.S. I did enjoy your Diva quip. Good one! But I will leave you with a quip of my own. The Thanos Bowen = Not knowin, (IMO, of course!). Take care.

divo · Oct 24, 2010

traylorc said:
If God's gift to collecting dares to proclaim that the SS Thanos is superior to Bowen's in every way there is no need for further discussion. Because if something is obvious to Divo, then it should be obvious to everyone.

Thanks for clearing that up for all of us....

No, I really don't believe that my views will be obvious to everyone, only those that have the capacity to be objective & have 20/20 vision. :wave

The bar has been raised my friend, & you refuse to look up.

P.S. And reviewing some of your past insightful posts(?), you come off as God's gift to sarcastic trolls. Cheers! :wave

divo · Oct 24, 2010

Hulksmashed said:
Dude...you gotta remember Sideshow is a business! Of COURSE they arent going to choose to post negative feedback. Have you EVER seen a commercial for a new Movie that touts "New York Times hales this as the biggest flop of the summer!!"? Or maybe a car commercial that points out "worst safety record of any car in its class!!"? Its a business. So you say "go figure" sarcastically...Sideshow isnt your buddy...its a BUSINESS!!

A business of course. But if Sideshow wants to better reach & understand their customers, & improve their business model, they would be wise to have the guts to print legitimate critiques of their products, or ban customer posts altogether.

Which brings this to mind. Do you remember, until recently, when Sideshow would give us a 'sneak peak' of an upcoming product, & frustratingly show us a toe, a boot. an ear, .....etc. And then ask us(!) what the hell we thought it was? Which, with the obscure hints provided, was virtually impossible. Well I took the liberty of posting my opinion regarding this childish business practice. My post basically stated that the practice was childish at best, & downright insulting at worst. I mean collectors are shelling out $100's for their products, & yet they were treating their client base like kids. I simply pointed out that at their price points, kiddy style, waving the carrot marketing practices were not appreciated, & to stop this practice would benefit both Sideshow & collectors. To my amazement, they did change this practice, & now we all get to see a legitimate, much more revealing 'sneak peek', which allows us to plan purchases, for upcoming products, way in advance.

Now I don't believe that Sideshow changed this policy solely based on my post. But man, the timing of their change, which was a mere couple of weeks after my posting, kinda makes me feel good that I may have contributed to this much improved version of their 'sneak peek' reveals.

Anyhow, my point is that if Sideshow would allow legitimate critiques of their products to be posted, be it painful at first, eventually both Sideshow & us collectors would stand to benefit.

divo · Oct 24, 2010

TOE said:
I agree with Divo.

I'd like to thank you for your support. Toe = Know.

traylorc · Oct 24, 2010

divo said:
No, I really don't believe that my views will be obvious to everyone, only those that have the capacity to be objective & have 20/20 vision.

The bar has been raised my friend, & you refuse to look up.

P.S. And reviewing some of your past insightful posts(?), you come off as God's gift to sarcastic trolls. Cheers!

Way to raise that bar Diva! :clap

Hulksmashed · Oct 24, 2010

divo said:
A business of course. But if Sideshow wants to better reach & understand their customers, & improve their business model, they would be wise to have the guts to print legitimate critiques of their products, or ban customer posts altogether.

Which brings this to mind. Do you remember, until recently, when Sideshow would give us a 'sneak peak' of an upcoming product, & frustratingly show us a toe, a boot. an ear, .....etc. And then ask us(!) what the hell we thought it was? Which, with the obscure hints provided, was virtually impossible. Well I took the liberty of posting my opinion regarding this childish business practice. My post basically stated that the practice was childish at best, & downright insulting at worst. I mean collectors are shelling out $100's for their products, & yet they were treating their client base like kids. I simply pointed out that at their price points, kiddy style, waving the carrot marketing practices were not appreciated, & to stop this practice would benefit both Sideshow & collectors. To my amazement, they did change this practice, & now we all get to see a legitimate, much more revealing 'sneak peek', which allows us to plan purchases, for upcoming products, way in advance.

Now I don't believe that Sideshow changed this policy solely based on my post. But man, the timing of their change, which was a mere couple of weeks after my posting, kinda makes me feel good that I may have contributed to this much improved version of their 'sneak peek' reveals.

Anyhow, my point is that if Sideshow would allow legitimate critiques of their products to be posted, be it painful at first, eventually both Sideshow & us collectors would stand to benefit.

Disagree completely. Sideshow can take criticism that you give and apply it to their statues (assuming your criticisms are warranted....which I'm slightly skeptical of) without broadcasting your criticism to the rest of the collecting community. Seriously...say someone told you that you had horrible body odor and suggested a different deodorant. You find that you in fact DO have horribly BO. Would you broadcast to the world that you smelled...or silently take a shower and use a new deodorant??

Also...the change in "sneak peak" procedures just happened to occur soon after the global economic downturn. So, unless you'd like to take credit for the current economy...I highly doubt your post had much to do with it. However...if you DID have something to do with the change... :gah:

I happened to LIKE the guessing game!!!!

filip629 · Oct 25, 2010

divo said:
To be fair, I may have been a bit too extreme in my initial statement, that's because I feel that BOWEN IS WAY OVERRATED, again,IMO. A more truthful statement would have been that anything Martin Canale/Gore Grp., or Pablo Viggiano/ Viggiano studios sculpts, are way superior (yes, in every way) to anything Bowen. In truth, these are the only two artists I collect from Sideshow's marvel line, because they are heads & horns above anything else out there, again, IMO.
Regarding Bowen's Thanos baby blue, & loud gold hues? Bowen's explanation seems lame at best, & downright bull at worst. I find it hard to believe that marvel would veto the royal blue color scheme in favor of the baby blue (though stranger things have happened). I mean the Bowen Thanos bust does seem to sport the royal blue color, so why would this pass marvel's approval? And you called me naive? Maybe I should label you as gullible? Lastly, regarding color scheme, I would strongly advise you to NOT ALTER THE BOWEN THANOS COLORS!!!!! This would be akin to messing with the patina of antique furniture, which would result in a substantial reduction in value to your statue. Another piece of advise, ( which you don't have to take, nobody is holding a gun to your head!), is sell your Bowen Thanos while the market value is still high. Cause once the Sideshow version is released, & people have a chance to compare them side by side, I predict the Bowen version's value will decline; which would be good for the collectors who still felt that the bowen version is superior, & would be able to pick it up at a much more reasonable price.
As for thicker skin? I've decided to wear full body armor anytime I dare voice an opinion in the future. And I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I just feel that there should be a more insightful, thoughtful, & positive way of doing it. No childish, or labeling comments.

P.S. I did enjoy your Diva quip. Good one! But I will leave you with a quip of my own. The Thanos Bowen = Not knowin, (IMO, of course!). Take care.

I don't know how long you have read comics but Thanos has had a light blue costume since Starlin created him. Check out the older back issues of Warlock and even the Infinity Gauntlet. You can even go so far as to say Bowen's Thanos is comic accurate. According to Randy, that is why Marvel insisted on the change. I can believe it based off of marvels source material at the time. I have no reason to doubt Randy since he has had that color scheme since his debut.

I will change the color scheme on the Thanos. While I do care about resale value of my statues, I care more about making such an awesome piece perfect. I love the piece too much to sell it. I will have both the SSC Thanos as well as the Bowen one. That's an overall win-win for me. I collect from both companies and separate them in my displays. This way scale is not an issue.

I also think Gore group, Canale, and Pablo ROCK! SSC has some major talent. However, I also LOVE Bowen, Villafane, Shifflets, Newman, and Miller, amongst others Randy has hired over the years. Enjoying the works of both companies isn't a crime.

Enjoy the SSC Thanos statue. There is no doubt in my mind it will look great. That is why I ordered it.

Glad you didn't mind my last sentance. It was a jab at humor and I meant no harm by it. So, put on your battle armor and keep posting. :yess: