The "All things TERMINATOR" thread.

[Khev]

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I grew up loving the first two Terminator films. Are you upset by what’s happened to the franchise? It seems like it’s been hijacked, and they’re just getting worse and worse.

JAMES CAMERON: It hasn’t been hijacked. It’s really just stumbled along, trying to find its voice again. There’s probably some degree to where it’s lost relevance, you know? Maybe the things that made it good back then are kind of a yawn now. It’s easy to remember fondly the things that kick off a franchise. It’s hard to keep a franchise vigorous, and relevant. I haven’t had my hand on the tiller since Terminator 2, and that was 1991. So what’s that? Twenty-six years? But look, I think it’s possible to tell a great Terminator story now, and it’s relevant. We live in a digital age, and Terminator ultimately, if you can slow it down, is about our relationship with our own technology, and how our technology can reflect back to us—and in the movie, literally, in a human form that is a nemesis and a threat. But also in those movies, in the two that I did, it’s about how we dehumanize ourselves. In a time when people are being absorbed by their virtual-social world, I mean, just look around. I always say: if Terminator was about the war between the humans and the machines, look around any restaurant or airport lounge and tell me the machines haven’t won when every human you see is enslaved to their device. So could you make a relevant Terminator film now? Absolutely.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/artic...p-administration-these-people-are-insane.html

 

[RIDDICK]

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"I haven’t had my hand on the tiller since Terminator 2, and that was 1991. So what’s that? Twenty-six years? But look, I think it’s possible to tell a great Terminator story now, and it’s relevant."

No, Jim. None of it is relevant. You're just tryin' to hide the fact that you've been paid to voice your aproval of these "films". Because you're a producer, a cog in this huge but very broken machine.

 

[a-dev]

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I'm of 2 minds about him saying this stuff - on the one hand it sounds like he still sees potential for a Terminator movie to be more than just about the 'splosions and I believe if anyone could do it he could.

On the other hand I'm remembering the younger Cameron who felt the story was done with T2, that there didn't need to be anything else. And I'm remembering the very recent Cameron who said Terminator Genisys was the real 3rd film, a genuine successor to his 2 films. Hard to know what to think.

 

[Ash Housewares]

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Almost finished this. Ran out of black beads though

 

[a-dev]

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If only Hot Toys could be as accurate.

 

[Khev]

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Yeah, just because current society is inundated with social media, smart phones, OS's, etc., doesn't make a movie about a personified machine terrorizing someone more "relevant." In fact our current virtual saturation is actually less sexy than good old fashioned war robots and automated nukes.

Genysis tried to make Skynet relevant which resulted in the lamest parts of the movie. All anyone cared about were the 1984 scenes and future war.

 

[gypsycatcha]

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Almost finished this. Ran out of black beads though

Wow that looks totally awesome

 

[RIDDICK]

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If only Hot Toys could be as accurate.

Eh, looks like a Sideshow skull.

 

[karamazov80]

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Almost finished this. Ran out of black beads though

Great work! Is it based off of the old arcade game?

 

[Ash Housewares]

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Thanks. It's a based on a photo of one of the Icon Skulls.

 

[a-dev]

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Eh, looks like a Sideshow skull.

Hmm. Still better than the QS002

 

[Jameson Rook]

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/artic...p-administration-these-people-are-insane.html

What does that even mean? It's been 26 years and since then only one person was able to tell a real Terminator story. The TX from T3, Starscream from Salvation and that Godawful app/John Connor plot device from T5 are proof that they'll only end up relying on gimmicks to tell a story, trying to force some kind of "message" about humans vs technology.

The Terminator isn't a comic book superhero, you can't just go around changing **** to adapt to the times, and if you do, you'll need to be really smart about it as the Terminator, at it's core is a smart story masquerading under absurd premises.

 

[Jameson Rook]

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Almost finished this. Ran out of black beads though

That's amazing! How long did it took you to make it?

 

[RIDDICK]

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Hmm. Still better than the QS002

True.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Almost finished this. Ran out of black beads though

Hmm. Still better than the QS002

Yep.

What does that even mean? It's been 26 years and since then only one person was able to tell a real Terminator story. The TX from T3, Starscream from Salvation and that Godawful app/John Connor plot device from T5 are proof that they'll only end up relying on gimmicks to tell a story, trying to force some kind of "message" about humans vs technology.

The Terminator isn't a comic book superhero, you can't just go around changing **** to adapt to the times, and if you do, you'll need to be really smart about it as the Terminator, at it's core is a smart story masquerading under absurd premises.

Listen, and understand. James Cameron is out there. He can be bargained with by investors. He can be reasoned with producers. He doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop alienating his old fans, ever, until he is dead.

 

[Jameson Rook]

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[Snake Plissken]

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Cameron, with his endless obsession with CGI, will probably create a new T-1,000,000 hybrid crap that ironically gets easily defeated by yet another T-800. I'm sick of the new movies making "superior" models being easily beaten by the older ones. A real fight between the T-800 and a T-1000 should last no more than 15 seconds.

Yeah the T-800 obsession is old hat at this point, same thing with the protector angle. If he wanted a T6, make it human protector vs T-800 then. Or, just do the future war film we've wanted for 25 years...

 

[a-dev]

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I don't like the 'curious puppy' head-tilting crap but otherwise...

 

[Khev]

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I don't like the 'curious puppy' head-tilting crap

Kristanna Loken's eternal gift to the franchise.

 

[RIDDICK]

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Kristanna Loken's eternal gift to the franchise.

Nah, it started with Michael Myers. Then infected Jason Voorhees. Then Terminators.

The original T-1000 did it too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXsyn-9VLVA - 1:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT_u9Rurrqg - 1:16