The Avengers VS The Dark Knight

[intothevoid]

So you're being obstinate today.

Perhaps then, you can explain how Nolan's 2-Face would be able to function in the real world.

He wouldn't - it's unrealistic.

The question is do I have to make as much of a leap from reality to digest Nolan's 2 Face, as I do for the Hulk?

For me, definitely a lot less of a leap for 2 Face

That's my only point

But I know how you feel about it - so we'll have to agree to disagree

 

[jye4ever]

He wouldn't - it's unrealistic.

The question is do I have to make as much of a leap from reality to digest Nolan's 2 Face, as I do for the Hulk?

For me, definitely a lot less of a leap for 2 Face

That's my only point

But I know how you feel about it - so we'll have to agree to disagree

Hulk is just a personification of the rage within ourselves, he's very much real void.

I recently Hulked out when I got my water bill.

 

[intothevoid]

Hulk is just a personification of the rage within ourselves, he's very much real void.

I recently Hulked out when I got my water bill.

 

[thenammagazine]

Hulk is just a personification of the rage within ourselves, he's very much real void.

I recently Hulked out when I got my water bill.

You do realize Hulk grows because he's angry and doesn't crap himself out of shock, right?

 

[jye4ever]

Well, that's my secret, I'm always angry with a sparkling tooth.

 

[jye4ever]

You do realize Hulk grows because he's angry and doesn't crap himself out of shock, right?

are you saying my Hulk out is equivalent to a 7 year old girl running away from a bug.

 

[crows]

So you're being obstinate today.

Perhaps then, you can explain how Nolan's 2-Face would be able to function in the real world.

That's getting really old Nam, that's all you have to talk about against TDK for weeks now, ( or months?) if that is the worst thing about TDK then, lol, that is okay, is not as bad as freaking Aliens, a God, or a Hulk, comparing Hulk to Two face is funny actually, sure two face might not be able to walk like he did, but that is just an injury, Hulk is like, 100 percent fantasy, it will never happen, ever, just like Aliens or Loki and Thor, it will never happen.

All the people saying "eh Batman is unrealistic because he would be killed in a day" or " noone ever will do what Batman did"
well, it might be true is not realistic for a guy to do that, But if a person wanted they Could, even if they died in a Day, They Already do, the Real life superheroes dressed up and go out, Of course that is not like batman, of course not, but a rich guy doing this Could, my point is, even if is unrealistic, it could happen if someone was crazy enough, even if he got killed or arrested, there is a small posibility that a person could be like batman, no one ever could be like Hulk capt America or Thor, ever, never ever ever, not even a 1% chance, because is fantasy

just like when Nam says that the Tumbler going in the roofs is unrealistic, yes it is, but a car Could go on top of a roof, even if it breaks the roof, a crazy person could drive a car on a roof and break it

with Hulk or Iron man or Thor, Capt America, there is not even a small chance for it to happen, like zero, is all fantasy, is like a fairy tale, like saying the boogey man is real, or santa claus.
At least the things in TDK even though they are unrealistic and could not happen, are not fantasy, a burned guy walking around is not fantasy, is just not probable, it couldn't happen because of real world reasons, like infection and pain, Hulk could never happen because is a fantasy character,

He wouldn't - it's unrealistic.

The question is do I have to make as much of a leap from reality to digest Nolan's 2 Face, as I do for the Hulk?

For me, definitely a lot less of a leap for 2 Face

That's my only point

But I know how you feel about it - so we'll have to agree to disagree

this is what i mean

 

[IrishJedi]

Unrealistic is unrealistic.

Batman (even Nolan's) is also fantasy. "Yeah, but it's not as much of a fantasy as Hulk!" Do you even realize how silly this sounds?

This "debate" is futile. It's all fake.

 

[thenammagazine]

That's getting really old Nam, that's all you have to talk about against TDK for weeks now, ( or months?) if that is the worst thing about TDK then, lol, that is okay, is not as bad as freaking Aliens, a God, or a Hulk, comparing Hulk to Two face is funny actually, sure two face might not be able to walk like he did, but that is just an injury, Hulk is like, 100 percent fantasy, it will never happen, ever, just like Aliens or Loki and Thor, it will never happen.

All the people saying "eh Batman is unrealistic because he would be killed in a day" or " noone ever will do what Batman did"
well, it might be true is not realistic for a guy to do that, But if a person wanted they Could, even if they died in a Day, They Already do, the Real life superheroes dressed up and go out, Of course that is not like batman, of course not, but a rich guy doing this Could,

just like when Nam says that the Tumbler going in the roofs is unrealistic, yes it is, but a car Could go on top of a roof, even if it breaks the roof, a crazy person could drive a car on a roof and break it

with Hulk or Iron man or Thor, Capt America, there is not even a small chance for it to happen, like zero, is all fantasy, is like a fairy tale, like saying the boogey man is real, or santa claus.
At least the things in TDK even though they are unrealistic and could not happen, are not fantasy, a burned guy walking around is not fantasy, is just not probable, it couldn't happen because of real world reasons, like infection and pain, Hulk could never happen because is a fantasy character

My point is that both are comic book movies and both require a suspense of belief to be enjoyed. Arguing that one is more "realistic" than the other is benign given both films contain virtually impossible moments. The only thing getting old and stale is the Nolancompoops trying to edge TDK over Avengers by claiming how Nolan's films are grounded in reality. They're not. Get over it.

 

[jye4ever]

Unrealistic is unrealistic.

Batman (even Nolan's) is also fantasy. "Yeah, but it's not as much of a fantasy as Hulk!" Do you even realize how silly this sounds?

This "debate" is futile. It's all fake.

You mean you can't be almost pregnant.

 

[crows]

Unrealistic is unrealistic. Batman (even Nolan's) is also fantasy.

This "debate" is futile.

My point is that both are comic book movies and both require a suspense of belief to be enjoyed. Arguing that one is more "realistic" than the other is benign given both films contain virtually impossible moments. The only thing getting old and stale is the Nolancompoops trying to edge TDK over Avengers by claiming how Nolan's films are grounded in reality. They're not. Get over it.

is not a fairy tale like the Avengers though, like, batman is fantasy but is grounded in some reality, very very small but is there,

Avengers is 100 fantasy, like unicorns, or Dragons, or gargoyles, leprechauns, fairies,
it could never happen ever in real life, Two face is also fantasy, but is different, if two face was taken care of in the hospital, if he had surgery or something, problem solved, the only problem Nolan did was make two face go out of the hospital too fast, and not show pain, but people being burned like that is still a real world thing, compared to a semi god that can control lighting... i mean, really?

 

[thenammagazine]

is not a fairy tale like the Avengers though, like, batman is fantasy but is grounded in some reality, very very small but is there,

Avengers is 100 fantasy, like unicorns, or Dragons, or gargoyles, leprechauns, fairies,
it could never happen ever in real life, Two face is also fantasy, but is different, if two face was taken care of in the hospital, if he had surgery or something, problem solved, the only problem Nolan did was make two face go out of the hospital too fast, and not show pain, but people being burned like that is still a real world thing, compared to a semi god that can control lighting... i mean, really?

 

[jye4ever]

 

[intothevoid]

I'm done with the 'realistic' debate.

Until TDKR comes out

 

[The Josh]

Unrealistic is unrealistic.

Batman (even Nolan's) is also fantasy. "Yeah, but it's not as much of a fantasy as Hulk!" Do you even realize how silly this sounds?

This "debate" is futile. It's all fake.

Pretty much

 

[jye4ever]

I'm done with the 'realistic' debate.

Until TDKR comes out

Almost fantasy
Almost pregnant

 

[jye4ever]

Pretty much

Josh, don't front, you know you have real Hobbit hostages in your basement.

 

[crows]

Jesus you guys are so thick,

okay, is like this: Can I dress in a bat costume and beat up people: yes, I could,
would i go to jail? yes I would
could I die? yes I could, but i physically could dress as a bat and beat up guys,

Can be like Hulk and smash things? no, never,
could I be like capt america or Thor? never, i have as much chance to be them as I have a chance to meet an alien or a leprechaun

could Two face exist? yes, there are people that have had 4 degree burns, could he walk around? no he couldnt, but he could exist, thats the only thing Im saying, nothing in the avengers could exist,

 

[thenammagazine]

Jesus you guys are so thick,

okay, is like this: Can I dress in a bat costume and beat up people: yes, I could,
would i go to jail? yes I would
could I die? yes I could, but i physically could dress as a bat and beat up guys,

Can be like Hulk and smash things? no, never,
could I be like capt america or Thor? never, i have as much chance to be them as I have a chance to meet an alien or a leprechaun

could Two face exist? yes, there are people that have had 4 degree burns, could he walk around? no he couldnt, but he could exist, thats the only thing Im saying, nothing in the avengers could exist,

Fanboy panties are showing. You could easily dress up like any of those characters. You'd lack the attributes of all of them, though, yes, even Batman (unless you're an immortal, billionaire ninja who possesses the superpower of blind luck, with military resources at your disposal - which. is. highly. unlikely). And no, 2-Face could not exist. The character would be dead. Even Void, arguably the biggest Nolancompoop has conceded to this. But after your post, I'm guessing he just lost his crown.

 

[jye4ever]

Jesus you guys are so thick,

okay, is like this: Can I dress in a bat costume and beat up people: yes, I could,
would i go to jail? yes I would
could I die? yes I could, but i physically could dress as a bat and beat up guys,

Can be like Hulk and smash things? no, never,
could I be like capt america or Thor? never, i have as much chance to be them as I have a chance to meet an alien or a leprechaun

could Two face exist? yes, there are people that have had 4 degree burns, could he walk around? no he couldnt, but he could exist, thats the only thing Im saying, nothing in the avengers could exist,

The human qualities present in all the Avengers (yes, even the asgardians because they act human) can be found in all human beings.

Heroism, humor, fear, anger, etc.

Same for Nolan's characters.

But both are still 100% fantasy.

I'll say it again.

You can't just be a little bit fantasy as much as you can't just be a little bit pregnant.

You're either fantasy or you're not.

All action movies are fantasies, even ones dressed like dramas.