The Avengers VS The Dark Knight

[thenammagazine]

This thing would be the best batman gif ever if there was a flashover of him powervommiting

I'm Batm-URAAAAAAAAGHHHLLLL!

Judging by the wet, discolored chin and drool spot on his pants, I'd say this pic was post-vomit.

 

[karamazov80]

I really hope that's vomit. . .

 

[The Josh]

That's just wrong.

 

[thenammagazine]

That's just wrong.

It worked though. You're welcome.

 

[K07]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Mw8PSw2cE&list=UUkan4ZKlryf94OFFZc53Ojg&index=1&feature=plcp

Seriously!

Except I don't agree with the fanboy arguments that they should continue this line of Batman movies and link the DCU to it. I originally wanted a series of movies like Bond (loose continuity) where Nolan's trilogy would be the early years and we'd eventually see a veteran Batman and old man Batman and Batman Beyond/Batman Inc scenario. But I'd much rather them skip to the end, end the story, and reboot if they MUST drag superpowered aliens and subhumans into Batman's world. It wouldn't make logical sense to me to do it to Nolan's established world which I argue is closer to the world of Bond and Die Hard than the Avengers.

But I like both Nolan's Batman movies and the Marvel Universe. One doesn't NEED to be better than the other. It's all about personal preference of the type of movie it is and the characters in it.

 

[Niltusk]

Seriously!

Except I don't agree with the fanboy arguments that they should continue this line of Batman movies and link the DCU to it. I originally wanted a series of movies like Bond (loose continuity) where Nolan's trilogy would be the early years and we'd eventually see a veteran Batman and old man Batman and Batman Beyond/Batman Inc scenario. But I'd much rather them skip to the end, end the story, and reboot if they MUST drag superpowered aliens and subhumans into Batman's world. It wouldn't make logical sense to me to do it to Nolan's established world which I argue is closer to the world of Bond and Die Hard than the Avengers.

But I like both Nolan's Batman movies and the Marvel Universe. One doesn't NEED to be better than the other. It's all about personal preference of the type of movie it is and the characters in it.

I wish they could fit an "old" Batman story in there somewhere as well. I'd like to see a Dark Knight older Bruce revitalized type story. Don't know if it would appeal to the masses though.

 

[K07]

I wish they could fit an "old" Batman story in there somewhere as well. I'd like to see a Dark Knight older Bruce revitalized type story. Don't know if it would appeal to the masses though.

Actually, that's the vibe I'm getting from TDKR. He may have been retired for 8 years and he's pushing 40*. If anything, we're missing an established Batman in his prime on the top of his game in a world filled with established villains and allies....

Hopefully in the reboot, they go this direction. I don't care if Robin is a no show in Nolan's movies. I'd like him to EVENTUALLY make an appearance in the reboot and even become Nightwing. I'd like to see Barbara/Batgirl/Oracle as well. But it'd take a series of movies like the Bond series (22 movies so far with a 23rd on its way) to get all of that set up properly. Reboots are so popular, I guess we'll never see that happen...

*I am not happy about the 8 year jump in time and I wouldn't think 40 is "old man Batman," but for the Nolan movies I think that's the vibe he's shooting for. Bale is graying and uses a cane and what not.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, I think it would be nice for the reboot to maintain more comic ties, and to have Robin/Nightwing, Batgirl, and more of the wackier villains. We've seen a great, extremely dark and gritty interpretation of Batman. Now I would like to see something more akin to what the Marvel movies are doing with their heroes.

 

[K07]

Yeah, I think it would be nice for the reboot to maintain more comic ties, and to have Robin/Nightwing, Batgirl, and more of the wackier villains. We've seen a great, extremely dark and gritty interpretation of Batman. Now I would like to see something more akin to what the Marvel movies are doing with their heroes.

Without becoming as ridiculous as BR, BF, or B&R.

The Marvel movies have had a hard challenge in front of them making these films that are fantastical and out there but focusing on the human story and having a good balance of drama, action, and humor. Some have done better than others, but as a whole series of films, it's done a great job.

I'd like to see something like B:TAS with some sci-fi elements thrown in. It doesn't need to be arc deco, but I like how they included Man Bat, Killer Croc, and Clay Face. I'd prefer they still stay away from aliens and other DCU characters but I guess I might be in the minority (at least around these parts).

 

[DarkMagic]

*I am not happy about the 8 year jump in time and I wouldn't think 40 is "old man Batman," but for the Nolan movies I think that's the vibe he's shooting for. Bale is graying and uses a cane and what not.

Regarding the eight year "jump", its not really a jump when you compare it to the timeframe of the the filming of the movies.

During Batman Begins, Bruce Wayne turns 30. In 2004, during filming, Bale was 30.

TDK is about one year later, this is the same age difference between Bale's age during filming in 2007 (33), and the age of the character (31) as the current difference of 2 years, just flipped as to whether the real man or the character is older:

TDKR is 8 years later, Bruce Wayne is 39. Bale's age during filming? 37.

**Waits for people to charge that I am arguing that Batman is exactly like reality since the character and the actor are close in age.**

 

[Sithlord1975]

If it's about the "brings out the kid in me" fun and action sequences, I say Avengers. It's the lighter, more action oriented, more colorful style of film.

And honestly...hate to admit it. I kind of like this style better. It just seems more "fun" and great summer popcorn entertainment.

The Nolan movies are GREAT. AMAZING. But they rely more on being dramas, mixed in with a little bit of comic book heroes and villains.


I'm sure the Dark Knight Rises will be AMAZING, yet I'm not pumped or giddy about it, like I was to see the Avengers and Hulk kicking butt etc.

 

[devilof76]

I think a few of these guys are puffing off the same hooka. "I can be BATMAN!"

Conjecture, psychologizing, and other forms of making ____ up.

Let's put an end to this right now. Behold, a "realistic" Batman:

https://youtu.be/af0PGRReqxY

https://youtu.be/UJ_sJ_wPf-Q

This is as close as any of you will ever get to being/seeing a "real" Batman. Case closed.

Cynic with low estimate of the race based on a concrete-bound myopia in a period of history that rarely produces examples of human excellence. Try looking past the end of your nose.

Ninjas don't exist anymore. Watch UFC 1. A blackbelt in ninjitsu got his ass kicked by a kickboxer. That put an end to any believability regarding the "martial arts" aspect of ninjas.

That's like saying Shaolin martial arts are junk because some modern wushu dancer got beat up by a Brazilian man-hugger.

Nope, you're right. A real life Bruce Wayne would likely be too chicken____ and afraid to confront, first hand, the poverty his company created.

Big companies create poverty???

Occupy Gotham!!!

See UFC reference to answer this question. What I'm saying is I'm on to your little scheme lol) of just continually trolling with redundant, repetative questions when your point is irrevocably disproven.

I'm here to revoke.

But what you're failing to realize is that fiction is fiction, whether in part or in whole. Batman is no more or less realistic than say Captain America. Instead you guys are pettily arguing that Batman is "more realistic" than Avengers which is silly nonsense given none of the characters (with maybe the exception of Hawkeye and Nolan's Joker - though even that's a far reach), can exist in the real world. Instead you're grasping at extreme comparisons to prove an irrelevant point.

No one is failing to realize that fiction is fiction. But if I write a novel dramatizing true principles, and some Californian ward-heeler tries to feed the poor on everyone else's dime, my novel would not be unrealistic, but the real-life legislator would be the epitome of fantastical.

Simply because no one has successfully managed to pull off a Batman style operation is not cause to claim it's unrealistic. There is no element whatsoever in Batman's composition that is beyond human ability. Nothing. Holding up a picture of some fat dolt isn't an argument.

So what's the point?

Avengers is a fantasy. TDK is a drama. Comic book origins or not, they are not the same kind of movie.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

.......................................... but Avengers is better

 

[heon123]

Avengers: Beer
Nolan's Batman movies: Wine


You decide.

 

[devilof76]

I can drink a lot more beer than I can wine, but I'd rather be wine drunk.

 

[3timesacharm]

have to do with Bats, darker less funny and better story. TDKR will be amazing!

 

[soundwave]

Avengers for me.

Sure Dark Knight is a good movie but I just find it very very overrated & Avengers was just WAY more entertaining.

Dark Knight plods along too much for my liking & bores me.
I grant it's well written, well shot, good acting & works well for the universe but just something about it that bores me.

Avengers on the other hand was just great start to finish.
Entertained me from start to finish, such great set pieces, good acting, funny just everything a real blockbuster should be.

I'm psyched for Avengers 2 & all the companion films but I couldn't give a monkeys about The Dark Knight Rises...I expect more of the same as Dark Knight & that's not how I want my Super Hero movies anymore.

Neil

 

[intothevoid]

Conjecture, psychologizing, and other forms of making ____ up.



Cynic with low estimate of the race based on a concrete-bound myopia in a period of history that rarely produces examples of human excellence. Try looking past the end of your nose.



That's like saying Shaolin martial arts are junk because some modern wushu dancer got beat up by a Brazilian man-hugger.



Big companies create poverty???

Occupy Gotham!!!

I'm here to revoke.



No one is failing to realize that fiction is fiction. But if I write a novel dramatizing true principles, and some Californian ward-heeler tries to feed the poor on everyone else's dime, my novel would not be unrealistic, but the real-life legislator would be the epitome of fantastical.

Simply because no one has successfully managed to pull off a Batman style operation is not cause to claim it's unrealistic. There is no element whatsoever in Batman's composition that is beyond human ability. Nothing. Holding up a picture of some fat dolt isn't an argument.

So what's the point?

Avengers is a fantasy. TDK is a drama. Comic book origins or not, they are not the same kind of movie.

Something we can agree on

 

[IrishJedi]

There is no element whatsoever in Batman's composition that is beyond human ability. Nothing.

Actually, the very character itself
Is beyond human capability. No actual person can endure what Batman does without completely falling apart, both physically & psychologically within weeks, or days.

 

[devilof76]

I disagree.

Something we can agree on