The Batman (June 25, 2021)

[greygoose]

For a “real” Batman, you can’t get it from a movie. It needs a proper TV series. Still have no idea how this hasn’t been pitched yet. A GOT quality HBO Batman would probably be the 2020s best TV series if done right. Let the cast grow into the roles over the years.

Season 1 - Crime Alley scene, follow Bruce around the world training, slowly enter into the Year One story. Followed by Year Zero with introductions to Red Hood Gang/Joker and Riddler.

Just follow the comics and do the major stories. Introduce the Bat-Family over the seasons. Hell they could make one season based on Long Halloween alone.

Makes perfect sense - so probs why it's not been done.

 

[ZE_501]

Had Ledger not died, it would have been interesting to see him again, but I can't even imagine how they could have used him effectively again. He went to prison or Arkham at the end of TDK. Does he escape?

Huh...ya know...I don't remember how that film ended? And I just watched it last year. Weird.

Then what, he does the same stuff he did in TDK, but on a larger scale? Maybe Bane and Joker team up? Maybe Batman and Joker team up? I'd love to know what the Nolan bros or even Goyer had in mind for a third film. Nicholson never got a sequel either, and I also can't imagine what a Nicholson Joker sequel would look like.

Nicholson Joker was terrible (in hindsight, as a kid I just accepted him). Bane always confused me. He looks like a Mad Max extra and sounds like he's from Mayberry.

Ledger Joker ... had he come back, I would have liked to see them go in the opposite direction. Have an intense, smaller film more like Seven instead of all the giant explosions. But studios never do that anymore ... the next thing is always bigger with more CG and more explosions.

 

[jye4ever]

Huh...ya know...I don't remember how that film ended? And I just watched it last year. Weird.



Nicholson Joker was terrible (in hindsight, as a kid I just accepted him). Bane always confused me. He looks like a Mad Max extra and sounds like he's from Mayberry.

Ledger Joker ... had he come back, I would have liked to see them go in the opposite direction. Have an intense, smaller film more like Seven instead of all the giant explosions. But studios never do that anymore ... the next thing is always bigger with more CG and more explosions.

But but but JP Joker was just that

 

[matticus]

Nolan said Joker would've been included in TDKR. I assume just like a Scarecrow type of appearance and it probably would have degraded that Joker for me. Still sad that Ledger didn't get to enjoy all the accolades for his performance.

 

[jye4ever]

Had Ledger been in TDKR his Joker would’ve been irreversibly tarnished.

 

[jye4ever]

Had Ledger been in TDKR his Joker would’ve been irreversibly tarnished.

Getting JP Joker was a nice consolation prize.

 

[greygoose]

Huh...ya know...I don't remember how that film ended? And I just watched it last year. Weird.



Nicholson Joker was terrible (in hindsight, as a kid I just accepted him). Bane always confused me. He looks like a Mad Max extra and sounds like he's from Mayberry.

Ledger Joker ... had he come back, I would have liked to see them go in the opposite direction. Have an intense, smaller film more like Seven instead of all the giant explosions. But studios never do that anymore ... the next thing is always bigger with more CG and more explosions.

Think they're going for the Seven vibe with the new Riddler. Will be interesting to see.

 

[ironwez20]

I’m sure tdkr would have been a better movie with joker. He could have served as a Hannibal lecter role. I know people wanted to see riddler or penguins.

honestly I liked they went with bane however he was such a waste. Affleck Batman and even Keaton Batman could beat him in there sleep.

and yes the Batman for two years bothered me aswell. But like clown said he seemed like he never wanted to do it forever. He only wanted to inspire the city to do better.

 

[ZE_501]

But but but JP Joker was just that

Not reeeaalllyy ... there was no Batman so no intense detective work, no cat and mouse (bat and mouse?) game.

And it was also just JP playing a broken, mentally ill loner for like the 4th time or so, this time with make-up. It was a well-made film with some solid performances and beautiful, albeit bleak cinematography, yet it didn't impress me, something contrived and empty about it.

 

[ZE_501]

honestly I liked they went with bane however he was such a waste. Affleck Batman and even Keaton Batman could beat him in there sleep.

and yes the Batman for two years bothered me aswell. But like clown said he seemed like he never wanted to do it forever. He only wanted to inspire the city to do better.

Gomer Bane? Keaton Bats would've put dynamite down his pants and kicked him down a manhole. Batfleck would have done something Jye-like to him. Ew.

 

[jye4ever]

Not reeeaalllyy ... there was no Batman so no intense detective work, no cat and mouse (bat and mouse?) game.

And it was also just JP playing a broken, mentally ill loner for like the 4th time or so, this time with make-up. It was a well-made film with some solid performances and beautiful, albeit bleak cinematography, yet it didn't impress me, something contrived and empty about it.

Fair enough

 

[jye4ever]

Gomer Bane? Keaton Bats would've put dynamite down his pants and kicked him down a manhole. Batfleck would have done something Jye-like to him. Ew.

Harding is so small they had to cut away when he lifted Batman above his head lol

 

[greygoose]

Harding is so small they had to cut away when he lifted Batman above his head lol

Never noticed that. Will do from now on.

 

[jye4ever]

Never noticed that. Will do from now on.

Yeah it’s pretty bad I don’t get why they didn’t just use a stunt man to show uninterrupted the most important scene in the movie.

Then again the stunt work in this movie was also pretty bad.

Also let’s not forget that it has one of the worst death scenes in movie history I’m talking about Manos The Hands of Fate bad lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think a Batman television series is all but inevitable. But it likely won't be what people really want.

And no matter how good it is, half of the fans will be disappointed...

 

[jye4ever]

I think a Batman television series is all but inevitable. But it likely won't be what people really want.

And no matter how good it is, I will still be disappointed...

 

[matticus]

I think a Batman television series is all but inevitable. But it likely won't be what people really want.

And no matter how good it is, half of the fans will be disappointed...

They have pretty much used every other major DC character on the CW...WB lol. We have already seen the Flash movie on the Flash show already. Those morons.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Yeah, truthfully the Batman has just been overused. The content has over-saturated pop culture. It is very hard to make it seem new and fresh. And even when it is, there is a predictability about it. One of the things Nolan had going for himself what that WB had done nothing with theatrical Batman for 8 years after Batman & Robin.

Since then we have had a Batman on screen constantly. Batman's been recast three times (not counting the TV show). There's a generation that doesn't know a year without some form of Batman in TV/movies nearly every year. And there's even MORE Batmen to come.

Sometimes things need to take a break. Get some distance. Get some perspective.

 

[greygoose]

Yeah, truthfully the Batman has just been overused. The content has over-saturated pop culture. It is very hard to make it seem new and fresh. And even when it is, there is a predictability about it. One of the things Nolan had going for himself what that WB had done nothing with theatrical Batman for 8 years after Batman & Robin.

Since then we have had a Batman on screen constantly. Batman's been recast three times (not counting the TV show). There's a generation that doesn't know a year without some form of Batman in TV/movies nearly every year. And there's even MORE Batmen to come.

Sometimes things need to take a break. Get some distance. Get some perspective.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Maybe they should make a series about Gotham after Batman has skedaddled away to Italy to sip wine and nod at Alfred...

Meanwhile, Gotham's Rogues Gallery start to take over the city again. It could be about the struggles of "Robin" trying to keep things safe. Maybe Batgirl helps him.

Ultimately, Batman could make a return...