The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

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I do not mind the critics really, but the constant harping and contiunal pounding away at the same perceived flaws really gets tiring wading through. And thats a shame for thise whom may wanna discuss….you know….the plot and character development?

Just curious, because I asked this of the people on the ST as well, and got some really good answers….

What would you want to see of BF? I saw a few examples of what people want to see, and then some really stupid ones….
You make a good point about the redundancy of piling on, and I've done enough of it here that it's time for me to back away from the thread. This last episode, despite arguably being the best of these first four, pissed me off the most, so I have nothing positive to say. But since you asked the question of what did people want to see from this show, I'd like to answer that question. Then I'll try my best to avoid more piling on.

I wanted to see Boba Fett being Boba Fett. I wanted to see the character I was introduced to (with a good amount of marketing and fanfare) more than 40 years ago but who was given very little time on screen. That character was a villain. A guy who collected bounties; sometimes by ruthless disintegration, and sometimes in whatever manner allowed him to wear the victim's scalp as a braided trophy. He worked alone. He said little. He had a reputation that merited respect from the most feared and evil man in the galaxy (Vader). He was cunning and proficient. I wanted to see *that* guy as a crime boss, to make up for the lack of getting to see that guy as a bounty hunter.

But none of those characteristics are present in the current iteration of the character. He's not a villain; though we'd have every reason to think he was going to be as a *crime boss* on Tatooine. He's a good guy, in every sense of that phrase; he explicitly says he would like to see fewer people die and he only goes after bad guys who threaten him or have done him wrong. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to eventually ending his arc by turning him into the good guy anti-hero, but only *after* OG Fett got plenty of screen time being OG Fett. Instead, they bypassed that guy and went straight to the nicer guy version.

He isn't a man of few words now; he speaks a ton. He isn't proficient; he's clumsy enough to ineptly chase a rabbit droid through a kitchen like a ******* clown. He isn't cunning; he comes up with the stupidest ideas and fails to spot vulnerabilities. He certainly isn't ruthless. He's not a bounty hunter. He doesn't work alone; he believes in being part of a tribe (even though all that got him was a dead tribe). He isn't respected; characters even tell him this to his face.

This is quite literally a completely different character in every way except for name, a helmet, and some armor. There's nothing about this show that makes it more compelling by having the main character be "Boba Fett" rather than be some completely new character who gives up a life of bounty hunting to pursue more autonomy with some benevolent intent. His name and legacy were simply the hook to reel in longtime fans (aka "suckers") like me before unveiling the bait-and-switch.

Robert Rodriguez talked about how this great character was underserved for so many years, and that now they get to give fans actual stories of the Boba Fett they grew up wanting more of. Well, for me this isn't anything remotely similar to the Boba Fett I grew up with, and I already enumerated the reasons why. It's a rebrand into a more soft and cuddly Boba Fett. And for anyone rationalizing it as "character evolution," I hope they at least understand that while that's true, this "evolution" comes without having been given any further glimpse of the original version of the character beyond the few minutes we got in the OT.

It also barely qualifies as an evolution since the end result is a complete departure from virtually everything the character used to be. It also comes at the expense of exchanging one of the few notable and awesome villains in the Star Wars universe for another version of Din Djarin (but nowhere near as cool). A villain with great design and attitude, with plenty of mysterious intrigue, is now going to be the protagonist to make way for a villain that's probably going to be... Emilia Clarke. Yay. No thanks.

There's a profound moment in this latest episode. Boba Fett tells Fennec that he needs to retrieve his "Firespray gunship" from Jabba's palace. Everyone with any functioning brain cells knows that he didn't need to say anything other than "my ship" in order for both Fennec and the audience to understand what he was referring to. But the rebrand of Slave I takes precedence, and the writers happily played along with the corporate edict. Everything in this show is a rebrand, and they're not disguising it. And the vast majority of fans will re-calibrate their perceptions and associations to happily accept Disney rebrands because they have a compulsive need to enjoy whatever carries the Star Wars label. And Disney knows it. Well, God bless the fans who can enjoy this. But I've been learning that I'm not one of them.

Sorry for the long rant.
 
I was always under the impression that as a bounty hunter he got by more on guile & stealth. Plus you don't get a reputation for ruthlessness by fighting fair.
Or did you mean it betrays the character that he's becoming?

Oh, he can fight just fine. He's excellent at it, in fact. Fighting is something you do a lot of as a bounty hunter. Jango trained him well, and he has only built on that.
 
And who wears a helmet at the dinner table?

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Awesome post ajp! :clap

Though out of curiosity would this series bug you if instead of being about Fett it was say a bounty hunter turned "Crime Lord" Commander Cody? Or some other random clone who survived the PT? I say that because while everything you say about the departure of this Fett from OT Fett is certainly true, I'm just accepting this entire show as brand new version of the character (like Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face vs. Aaron Eckhart Two-Face) and not an "evolution" at all. This is the Schumacher Fett totally compartmentalized within the Disney canon and completely set apart from Bulloch/Wingreen in the OT. And as such I find that there is a *lot* to enjoy (though maybe not for the reasons Favreau intended) about this goofy little romp. :)

Also regarding him giving the ship's classification instead of just saying "my ship." Obviously the doing away with the "Slave I" monikor is annoying but is it any more annoying than doing away with Wingreen's voice? Or the promise of what we all originally imagined Fett to be? I just lump that in with all the rest. And I can't help but realize that *this* version of Fett probably wouldn't keep that name after his goody-goody turn. And lastly I could see him wanting to stress to Fennec just how important retrieving this specific ship would be and wanting to call out the class as opposed to having her think that it's something more basic like a modified spice freighter or what have you. "I want to retrieve my firespray gunship." "Ooh, you've got one of those? I'm in."
 
Literally the only time he wore his helmet in this 49 minute episode was when they replayed the scene of him killing Bib on Mando. :(
LOL, I know! I think walking into the casino or bar (or whatever it is) with helmet on instead of carrying it under his arm would've made so much more sense. Honestly, that's probably the thing that bugs me most about the series. We see PLENTY of Tem helmetless between the flashbacks and his Hugh Hefner impersonations, so why not have his helmet on when it makes sense?!?!
 
Awesome post ajp! :clap

Though out of curiosity would this series bug you if instead of being about Fett it was say a bounty hunter turned "Crime Lord" Commander Cody? Or some other random clone who survived the PT? I say that because while everything you say about the departure of this Fett from OT Fett is certainly true, I'm just accepting this entire show as brand new version of the character (like Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face vs. Aaron Eckhart Two-Face) and not an "evolution" at all. This is the Schumacher Fett totally compartmentalized within the Disney canon and completely set apart from Bulloch/Wingreen in the OT. And as such I find that there is a *lot* to enjoy (though maybe not for the reasons Favreau intended) about this goofy little romp. :)

Also regarding him giving the ship's classification instead of just saying "my ship." Obviously the doing away with the "Slave I" monikor is annoying but is it any more annoying than doing away with Wingreen's voice? Or the promise of what we all originally imagined Fett to be? I just lump that in with all the rest. And I can't help but realize that *this* version of Fett probably wouldn't keep that name after his goody-goody turn. And lastly I could see him wanting to stress to Fennec just how important retrieving this specific ship would be and wanting to call out the class as opposed to having her think that it's something more basic like a modified spice freighter or what have you. "I want to retrieve my firespray gunship." "Ooh, you've got one of those? I'm in."
Would the series bug me less if it was about some character I didn't care about as much? Probably. But bad writing and poor execution would still keep me from enjoying this series as anything other than a live-action version of a Saturday morning cartoon. Or as an unintentional spoof. There's nothing about the story that hasn't been done *better* many times before in film and television. The appeal here is supposed to be "it's Star Wars!" That's not enough. And it's supposed to be Boba Fett; a character fans my age were clamoring for more of since the OT. This isn't him.

I get that you accept the show as a rebrand, but I don't want to do that. If the series was blowing me away in quality, then sure. But accept a rebrand just because it's campy and unintentionally funny? Why?

The whole point of these shows and movies is to extend the fictional universe that we grew up with. I can't enjoy them that way if they don't actually feel like an extension, and especially if my subjective evaluation is telling me that the quality is subpar.

As for Slave I rebranding, you bet it's more annoying than losing Wingreen's voice. Ships don't need name changes. Wingreen was never gonna live forever, even if the PT wasn't the reason for switching Fett's voice actor, so the character would need a new actor eventually anyway. That's part of the deal with continuing stories on screen. But the ship name change is totally different. Whatever their reasons for it, they didn't need to flaunt the rebrand so overtly when it wasn't necessary. We all know why they did it, and I'm not going to pretend that I don't know.
 
Awesome post ajp! :clap

Also regarding him giving the ship's classification instead of just saying "my ship." Obviously the doing away with the "Slave I" monikor is annoying but is it any more annoying than doing away with Wingreen's voice? Or the promise of what we all originally imagined Fett to be? I just lump that in with all the rest. And I can't help but realize that *this* version of Fett probably wouldn't keep that name after his goody-goody turn. And lastly I could see him wanting to stress to Fennec just how important retrieving this specific ship would be and wanting to call out the class as opposed to having her think that it's something more basic like a modified spice freighter or what have you. "I want to retrieve my firespray gunship." "Ooh, you've got one of those? I'm in."
Yeah, that exchange didn't bother me at all, and I don't get the uproar about the ship being renamed, as it seems they're merely avoiding the use of the name. If Firespray is the ship's type/classification then there hasn't been any renaming done yet whatsoever.
 
ajp: A villain with great design and attitude, with plenty of mysterious intrigue, is now going to be the protagonist to make way for a villain that's probably going to be... Emilia Clarke. Yay. No thanks.

This was an absolutely savage post and I cannot lie, the whole thing.

What would be cool is if we had Prince Xizor show up. You're right tho, we have to have Grrrl Power these days and so Xizor is off the table. We've never seen a Falleen in live action before that I know of, so this would be extra cool.

The Fett I know would stomp Qi'ra like a bug. And rightfully so. So overrated. I hope we dont see her. I think this name is being thrown around in the hopes that where she goes, a de-aged Harrison Ford will follow. This seems like a total pipe-dream to me, but we'll see.
 
KK: “Omg people love Mando but it’s going to take us ages to make season 3. What can we do quickly, cheaply, easily in one location and we can reuse some Mando actors and sets and props that can keep fans busy? Jon can you write it over the weekend please? And call some friends who can direct episodes and have it finished by the end of the week. Who else do we have that has a helmet like that?”

KK: “Anybody?”
 
Well that one was pretty great actually, 2 outta 4 ain't bad.

Rodriguez isn't back next week is he?

No, he's back to ruin the final episode. 2 more hopefully decent episodes before Rodriguez gives another episode his anti-Midas touch.
If it works out that all the non RR directed episodes are decent and the RR ones suck, it will paint a very interesting picture.
Kinda hope that is the pattern as at least that way, we get 4 good, 3 bad in this series.
 
I read some of these posts to my wife over lunch (thank you for some good hearted laughs). We’re glad we aren’t the only ones not feeling this portrayal of Boba Fett.
Disney lost my 10 year old daughter after the introduction of the “Sugar Rush” scooter gang. My son who’s 13 got irritated that it felt like he was watching Shark Boy and Lava Girl (he doesn’t know who RR is). I guess Disney can’t use Lucas’ excuse… “these are made for kids.”
 
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So, just like the many SW movie posters they were busted for copying, it seems that the BOBF theme is also a rip off.... :slap

This show really was both rushed and given a crap budget.....
 
This was an absolutely savage post and I cannot lie, the whole thing.

What would be cool is if we had Prince Xizor show up. You're right tho, we have to have Grrrl Power these days and so Xizor is off the table. We've never seen a Falleen in live action before that I know of, so this would be extra cool.

The Fett I know would stomp Qi'ra like a bug. And rightfully so. So overrated. I hope we dont see her. I think this name is being thrown around in the hopes that where she goes, a de-aged Harrison Ford will follow. This seems like a total pipe-dream to me, but we'll see.
Xizor would be great! Hadn't thought of that. I don't mind Qi'ra showing up, but not as the villain. The big bad villain arc really doesn't work for the character. Somehow the Pykes seemed more threatening in CG animation than they do in CGI/live action.
 
I read some of these posts to my wife over lunch (thank you for some good hearted laughs). We’re glad we aren’t the only ones not feeling this portrayal of Boba Fett.
Disney lost my 10 year old daughter after the introduction of the “Sugar Rush” scooter gang.
What happened to the youtube video you posted that I just refered to above??

Why did you remove it?

 
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