The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[greygoose]

Hopefully, Fett remembers to wear his helmet.

It's a fight with a high chance of injury - of course he won't wear it.

 

[greygoose]

Maybe this will end up like The Prestige where the big reveal will be that there were always TWO Boba Fetts (one a badass, one a bumbling *****) who took turns wearing the armor.

Wow spoilers.


Joke by the way.

 

[Khev]

It's a fight with a high chance of injury - of course he won't wear it.

The following footage shows Cobb Vanth in battle not wearing armor, then Cad Bane in battle not wearing armor, then Boba Fett in battle not wearing armor, lol.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Ehhh, I dunno man. I still find the concepts...unclear. I don't know how a budding Jedi is supposed to navigate the can dos and can nots of supposed love without attachment. Not to mention the entire enterprise, as previously mentioned, requires the morally questionable indoctrination of infants - taking them away from a different life they might have far preferred - in order for it to safely conducted.

I can't change your mind after all these years about how the Jedi Order operates, but I'll just say that if these stories are going to have super-powered Jedi, I think they need to account for the inherent dangers. I think Lucas thought that through in an excellent way, but it's not something that comes across as intuitively as he might've expected.

The type of power and influence that Jedi wield (including "mind tricks") necessitates that the Order would've had to establish certain doctrine and strict codes to ensure that Jedi remain enlightened peace keepers. If they were to have the same vulnerabilities and flawed emotional control as normal people, that'd be a major problem. You'd have a lot more Anakin situations, and the Order would've dissolved long before the prequel era.

I have a respect and reverence for the conceptual philosophies that Lucas constructed the Jedi and Jedi Order around. I just wish that the execution of those ideas had been better, because then there wouldn't be so much misunderstanding about Jedi among fans. But then again, I still see plenty of fan takes on ROTJ and Luke that are a complete departure from what Lucas has explicitly stated multiple times as the intent, so there's a certain amount of misinterpretation that would've been there regardless of even *abundant* clarity in execution.

 

[greygoose]

The following footage shows Cobb Vanth in battle not wearing armor, then Cad Bane in battle not wearing armor, then Boba Fett in battle not wearing armor, lol.

So much wrong in that clip.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

It's a fight with a high chance of injury - of course he won't wear it.

Oh my god, Boba Fett is Jack Burton.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Didn't they already pretty much do that though by having Fennec call out that he has gotten "soft" since his time with the Tuskens (which was just an extension of his time in the Sarlacc?) I mean as I think about it my "mind meld" clone idea could also work in reverse; that this *is* the "real" Fett but instead of a faker having his memories he's the real deal but with a hodge-podge of other memories/consciousnesses rattling around in his brain due to the Sarlacc that have greatly muddied his moral compass, proficiency with many of his prior skills, and so on. I'm not making a definitive case for how to rationalize this, just thinking (or typing) out loud so to speak.

No, Fennec saying that the Tuskens made him soft fails to accomplish what I was referring to. The Tuskens just made him want to stop going through his life and job alone. It doesn't even begin to address why his instinct was to waste time asking the Rodian firespray if he wanted to be set free. It doesn't explain his attitude toward Tuskens who beat him, tortured him, and had him doing firespray labor. When he tells Fennec that the Tuskens saved him, that was utterly ridiculous.

I need to see an actual acknowledgment that the Fett who came out of that Sarlacc was not the same guy who went into it. But since I've seen the Fett characterization in Filoni's TCW, I'm pretty sure this will never be a version of the character that I can accept as a logical extension of his OT persona (which inspired his reputation, marketing, and EU characterization). He was the most feared and respected bounty hunter in the galaxy, and I need to see them acknowledge that. Otherwise, the implication is that he was always this much of a moron, and was kindhearted by nature.

The guy who gets stumped by a locked door, embarrassingly chases a rabbit droid, and hovers his ship right over the mouth of the Sarlacc is someone I don't want being sold to me as the same guy from ESB. That doesn't compute.

I'm willing to do their work for them by head-canon-justifying Sarlacc digestive enzymes corrupting his brain (or whatever nonsense I choose), but only if they acknowledge ruthlessness and supreme competence having once been his defining characteristics. I can accept the ********, Tusken-influenced, "softer" Fett going forward because I acknowledge that brain injury/ailment can completely alter a person. But they first need to acknowledge how truly altered he is. That's the key for me. Hope that makes sense.

 

[The Buffinator]

Fett flying would be one way for him to stand out. As long as he doesn't crash and burn. The last thing we need is everyone fighting while Fett is running in the background on fire.

Be careful what you wish for....

 

[matticus]

Are they ever going to make an Old Republic movie? That cgi trailer is still the best Star Wars action I've ever seen.

Well that's just too badass. I don't think the Story Group can handle that much testosterone.

I hope Disney doesn't turn Cad Bane into another lost soul who turns good and becomes Fett's new ally.

You mean kill him off quickly when everyone starts to really enjoy him like Fett in ROTJ and Maul in TPM? The precedent is set and you know Filoni and Favreau still listen to ol' Georgie boy.

 

[Wor-Gar]

You mean kill him off quickly when everyone starts to really enjoy him like Fett in ROTJ and Maul in TPM? The precedent is set and you know Filoni and Favreau still listen to ol' Georgie boy.

I'd prefer him to die too quick... than to turn heroic underdog ally friend pal.

Fett: Thank you.

Bane: No need. *turns and walks away into the desert heat... raises a T2 thumbs up for Boba*

 

[darth dennis]

Maybe this will end up like The Prestige where the big reveal will be that there were always TWO Boba Fetts (one a badass, one a bumbling *****) who took turns wearing the armor.

Man, I loved the Prestige! I would NOT, however, like two Boba Fetts! Don't multi-verse this stuff, please!

 

[chrisstbh]

 

[darth dennis]

Wow spoilers.


Joke by the way.

Look, if I'm not in the Prestige thread I shouldn't expect to have that movie spoiled in another thread. A little courtesy, please!

 

[Wor-Gar]

Look how cool Cad is.

 

[greygoose]

Look, if I'm not in the Prestige thread I shouldn't expect to have that movie spoiled in another thread. A little courtesy, please!

It's only 16 years old.

Luckily I watched it last year.

 

[Khev]

No, Fennec saying that the Tuskens made him soft fails to accomplish what I was referring to. The Tuskens just made him want to stop going through his life and job alone. It doesn't even begin to address why his instinct was to waste time asking the Rodian firespray if he wanted to be set free. It doesn't explain his attitude toward Tuskens who beat him, tortured him, and had him doing firespray labor. When he tells Fennec that the Tuskens saved him, that was utterly ridiculous.

That was my point though, that his "softness" that Fennec recognized (and wrongly attributed to his time with the Tuskens but was actually a result of the Sarlacc) was also the reason for everything you mention above. So as of now we've got Fennec recognizing that Fett has turned soft since his OT days and Cad Bane remembering him as a ruthless killer. That's probably all the lip service we'll get acknowledging the contrast between OT and BOBF Fett and if I love how they wrap this up I at least will probably be fine accepting that.

I totally understand why you wouldn't though. I'm starting to consider myself lucky that my "Star Wars OCD" is getting more and more lax when it comes to demanding that all of SW conform to OT rules of awesomeness. It's taken a couple decades but I'm finally coming around to accepting that SW constantly alternates between unparalleled awesomeness, wacky Looney Tunes hilarity (intentional or otherwise), and pure cringe, sometimes with all three manifesting in the same movie or even TV episode. That's just becoming part of what SW is at this point and rather than stress about ridiculousness or cringey stuff I've learned to hang in there and weather it because any given moment can give way to more awesomeness (like the last two episodes have provided seemingly out of the blue.)

Sure on some levels it truly sucks what they're doing to Fett but at least they're counterbalancing what they're doing to him with the genuine hilarity of it all while simultaneously taking a lot of what we loved about Fett in the first place and having it manifest in Mando, Cobb, and now Bane.

I need to see an actual acknowledgment that the Fett who came out of that Sarlacc was not the same guy who went into it. But since I've seen the Fett characterization in Filoni's TCW, I'm pretty sure this will never be a version of the character that I can accept as a logical extension of his OT persona (which inspired his reputation, marketing, and EU characterization). He was the most feared and respected bounty hunter in the galaxy, and I need to see them acknowledge that. Otherwise, the implication is that he was always this much of a moron, and was kindhearted by nature.

The guy who gets stumped by a locked door, embarrassingly chases a rabbit droid, and hovers his ship right over the mouth of the Sarlacc is someone I don't want being sold to me as the same guy from ESB. That doesn't compute.

I'm willing to do their work for them by head-canon-justifying Sarlacc digestive enzymes corrupting his brain (or whatever nonsense I choose), but only if they acknowledge ruthlessness and supreme competence having once been his defining characteristics. I can accept the ********, Tusken-influenced, "softer" Fett going forward because I acknowledge that brain injury/ailment can completely alter a person. But they first need to acknowledge how truly altered he is. That's the key for me. Hope that makes sense.

Yep, it sure does!

 

[Khev]

It's only 16 years old.

Luckily I watched it last year.

Phew!

 

[Khev]

All I know is that seeing OT era Luke wielding Yoda's PT lightsaber did more to canonize those films for me than probably anything prior. Though it's hard not to chuckle imagining the extended version of that scene, lol.

"This is a lightsaber. It belonged to my former teacher, Master Yoda. He lost it when dueling Palpatine in the Senate Chamber. How did I come by it you ask? That...is a story for another time."

 

[Wor-Gar]

"This is a lightsaber. It belonged to my former teacher, Master Yoda. He lost it when dueling Palpatine in the Senate Chamber. How did I come by it you ask?

Maz!!!!

Now you are connected to OT, PT and ST!!!

 

[matticus]

Just seen this and it is so good for the soul to see Luke. It is so stupid to not have a post-ROTJ Luke Skywalker movie. Not like a CGI movie hasn't CGI'd a complete face before like Looper, Captain Marvel, Gemini Man. I think Sebastian Stan would do just fine though. Makes you wonder if that is Feige's movie. You know his taste and quality would fit something like that. Not like he has anything else to honestly build off of from the ST.

How the hell does the Naboo starfighter land? I don't see no landing gear and it just doesn't sit on the ground. It looks like it is just suspended in the air with no consistent motion of it actually hovering. Probably the same issue from TPM.

Luke's CGI was very good when straight on. When there was distance between the actor and the camera, it didn't look good. At side angles the CGI looked very obvious. There were lip sync issues at times with Luke and Bane.

I don't believe Luke would make such a dramatic choice for Grogu. What would be wrong with having a tool like chainmail armor at your disposal? The separation of an attachment makes your training even more difficult. Luke should be the New Testament, not the Old Testament like the Old Republic. Guess they are sticking with the monk/hermit garbage.

Luke and Cad's appearances automatically make this a must see episode.