The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[matticus]

From Lone Wolf and Cub (1970), Ogami Itto makes his 1 year old son choose between the ball or the sword.

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Good catch. Makes you wonder through much of media how it is inspired directly by something else.

In the end, it could just be a test. He could teach him further, but knowing what you are dealing with is half the battle.

 

[The Buffinator]

From Lone Wolf and Cub (1970), Ogami Itto makes his 1 year old son choose between the ball or the sword.

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Yes, Mondragon pointed this out a few days ago, but I think it was in The Mandalorian thread....

 

[Asta]

From Day One I've found Cobb Vanth both overrated and out of place in Star Wars, even though I think Olyphant is a good actor they've gone from Western genre references to hamfisted mimicry. So dumbed down.

...

Bane and Vanth belong in Firefly, not Star Wars.

Star Wars (1977) was Lucas' nostalgic love letter to the films and serials he watched as a child, an homage to various genres including cliffhangers and westerns. Han Solo was a vest wearing western movie gunslinger, with his low slung, tied down holster.

The early Brian Daley Han Solo trilogy even had Han going up against the notorious gunslinger, Gallandro.

Raylan Givens in Justified was mimicry of the western movie genre transplanted to the contemporary period. I thought making Vanth into Space Givens was both apt and a neat cross reference.

Cad Bane was mimicry of Lee Can Cleef's spaghetti western appearances, just as Lucas and Jeremy Bulloch built Boba Fett around Clint Eastwood's similar appearances.

 

[Ramatuelle]

From Lone Wolf and Cub (1970), Ogami Itto makes his 1 year old son choose between the ball or the sword.

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A ONE YEAR OLD CAN BARELY CHOOSE BETWEEN JUICE AND KOOL AID, COME ON

.....sheesh, fr

 

[jye4ever]

A ONE YEAR OLD CAN BARELY CHOOSE BETWEEN JUICE AND KOOL AID, COME ON

.....sheesh, fr

Just wait until he has to choose between Phizer and Moderna.

 

[greygoose]

Just wait until he has to choose between Phizer and Moderna.

 

[Knightstalker]

A ONE YEAR OLD CAN BARELY CHOOSE BETWEEN JUICE AND KOOL AID, COME ON

.....sheesh, fr

I get what you’re saying, but I think it would have been far more cold hearted for Luke to force the kid to keep training when his heart wasn’t in it.
Grogu has an choice now to return to his adoptive father which is far more than any force sensitive child before him ever had. Even Grogu would have essentially been forcefully taken from his parents in the PT era by the Jedi.

 

[Otomofan]

Yes, Mondragon pointed this out a few days ago, but I think it was in The Mandalorian thread....

Ahem....

https://www.collectorfreaks.com/thr...t-december-2021.238518/page-322#post-10633656

 

[Ramatuelle]

I get what you’re saying, but I think it would have been far more cold hearted for Luke to force the kid to keep training when his heart wasn’t in it.
Grogu has an choice now to return to his adoptive father which is far more than any force sensitive child before him ever had. Even Grogu would have essentially been forcefully taken from his parents in the PT era by the Jedi.

..... Just one more reason why the Jedi suck & have always sucked.

Din come get yo kid before they REALLY screw him up.

 

[greygoose]

..... Just one more reason why the Jedi suck & have always sucked.

Din come get yo kid before they REALLY screw him up.

The Jedi...

 

[Asta]

The Jedi...

That film is still nightmare fuel.

 

[Knightstalker]

..... Just one more reason why the Jedi suck & have always sucked.

Din come get yo kid before they REALLY screw him up.

Lol yeah I can’t argue with that.

 

[greygoose]

That film is still nightmare fuel.

Yep. Used to love it as a kid though. You don't realise how messed up it is.

Talking of nightmare fuel...

 

[Asta]

Yep. Used to love it as a kid though. You don't realise how messed up it is.

Talking of nightmare fuel...

 

[greygoose]

Good thing it's morning here. Couldn't be going to bed after the last few posts.

 

[Adam1138]

Isnt Luke one of the strongest Force-users ever, second only to Anakin and perhaps Yoda? He should be quite a bit stronger than her.

Filoni will not allow that, tho.

None of them are remotely as powerful as Broome boy…

 

[ZE_501]

Star Wars (1977) was Lucas' nostalgic love letter to the films and serials he watched as a child, an homage to various genres including cliffhangers and westerns. Han Solo was a vest wearing western movie gunslinger, with his low slung, tied down holster.

The early Brian Daley Han Solo trilogy even had Han going up against the notorious gunslinger, Gallandro.

Raylan Givens in Justified was mimicry of the western movie genre transplanted to the contemporary period. I thought making Vanth into Space Givens was both apt and a neat cross reference.

Cad Bane was mimicry of Lee Can Cleef's spaghetti western appearances, just as Lucas and Jeremy Bulloch built Boba Fett around Clint Eastwood's similar appearances.

Most of us lifers know all this, but Han was a sly callback, not a cut-and-pasted character, hence my salinity.

 

[Asta]

Most of us lifers know all this, but Han was a sly callback, not a cut-and-pasted character, hence my salinity.

By now everything has been done before. It's either homage or repetition, and Lucas was known for cutting and pasting whole scenes from the 1930s and 1940s into Star Wars and Indiana Jones.

In their way TM and TBOBF are keeping with that tradition. They pulled Raylan Givens out of Justified and put him into Star Wars, retaining his mannerisms and even his dialogue. The only thing that may feel out of place is that the original and the homage are so close together timewise. Yet, the Givens character is itself a call back to older types, such as Eastwood.

There are things in TBOBF that felt completely out of place but for me Cobb Vanth/Timothy Olyphant wasn't one of them, because he fits the universe.

The Mandalorian also did it with the Akira Kurosawa themed episode that featured Ahsoka.

 

[greygoose]

 

[ZE_501]

By now everything has been done before. It's either homage or repetition, and Lucas was known for cutting and pasting whole scenes from the 1930s and 1940s into Star Wars and Indiana Jones.

There still exists a line between homage and -- as I've said -- hamfisted mimicry. I believe that line has been crossed both here and at times in The Mandalorian. YMMV.