The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*
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Transformers 2 is a cluster ****.
This movie is a really good painting, with one massively misplaced stroke.
But the thing is, most of the stuff you're explaining is everything Nolan does in his movies. He always jumps around. Scene Scene, theme, scene, plot, theme, scene. He rarely EVER has a scene where people are being human, and real. It's always THE MOMENT. Aside from one or two of his earlier movies, Begins included....
TDK is JUST like this. It does have 1 or 2 more then TDKR, but it still flows the same way.
Nolan is a story guy. He wants to tell the story, and that's it. He's not a character director.
Look at Tarantino's movies. He has 30 minute scenes of people talking about movies...but he sneaks in the plot, and important information, and it creates a stylized, but realistic way of moving the plot along.
Nolan doesn't. I'm not saying your points aren't valid. But I am saying it's nothing new. It's been there since TDK. Begins is a better film then both BECAUSE it has moments of...ya know...nothing. It has two characters talking about their lives, it has people interacting like people.
TDK doesn't. It's plot plot plot plot.
This movie is a really good painting, with one massively misplaced stroke.
But the thing is, most of the stuff you're explaining is everything Nolan does in his movies. He always jumps around. Scene Scene, theme, scene, plot, theme, scene. He rarely EVER has a scene where people are being human, and real. It's always THE MOMENT. Aside from one or two of his earlier movies, Begins included....
TDK is JUST like this. It does have 1 or 2 more then TDKR, but it still flows the same way.
Nolan is a story guy. He wants to tell the story, and that's it. He's not a character director.
Look at Tarantino's movies. He has 30 minute scenes of people talking about movies...but he sneaks in the plot, and important information, and it creates a stylized, but realistic way of moving the plot along.
Nolan doesn't. I'm not saying your points aren't valid. But I am saying it's nothing new. It's been there since TDK. Begins is a better film then both BECAUSE it has moments of...ya know...nothing. It has two characters talking about their lives, it has people interacting like people.
TDK doesn't. It's plot plot plot plot.
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True, no argument there. I agree.
That was one of my faults with TDK (as I said in my post) but compared to TDKR it looks perfect (especially since the Joker sort of carries those character driven scenes). The problems are much more apparent with TDKR. It actually made me appreciate TDK and Begins even more. Not for "Trilogy" reasons but for how they were filmed, the stories they told and the characters and scenarios that were depicted. You can tell Nolan is trying to top himself and it shows, but I don't think expanding and going bigger does that. Just look at the TDK Bank Heist vs. the TDKR prologue. TDKR IS a cluster **** in comparison to TDK with what it takes on and grapples.
Looking back at Batman Begins and the way it was filmed, it doesn't even seem like Nolan's baby compared to The Dark Knight Rises. It's not as bloated and the end is actually linear. It's just different in so many ways. Yeah, there's the "full circle" crap with LOS, doomsday devices, pits, Tumblers etc. but there's just something about Batman Begins that looks and feels better to me.
Maybe it's because it's safer in what it attempted and achieved, humbler beginnings and all that, but still.
That was one of my faults with TDK (as I said in my post) but compared to TDKR it looks perfect (especially since the Joker sort of carries those character driven scenes). The problems are much more apparent with TDKR. It actually made me appreciate TDK and Begins even more. Not for "Trilogy" reasons but for how they were filmed, the stories they told and the characters and scenarios that were depicted. You can tell Nolan is trying to top himself and it shows, but I don't think expanding and going bigger does that. Just look at the TDK Bank Heist vs. the TDKR prologue. TDKR IS a cluster **** in comparison to TDK with what it takes on and grapples.
Looking back at Batman Begins and the way it was filmed, it doesn't even seem like Nolan's baby compared to The Dark Knight Rises. It's not as bloated and the end is actually linear. It's just different in so many ways. Yeah, there's the "full circle" crap with LOS, doomsday devices, pits, Tumblers etc. but there's just something about Batman Begins that looks and feels better to me.
Maybe it's because it's safer in what it attempted and achieved, humbler beginnings and all that, but still.
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I agree.
The only issue I have with TDK is the last act. To me, it just goes on for too long. Now while I do love a lot of it, it just has this massive jump from a big FINAL SHOWDOWN WITH COPS AND HOLY ****! To a crazy guy in a very intimate environmental.
I do like that, but I wish it was done a bit tighter. It's really the ferry scene that brings it down. It's interesting to watch at first, but man....watching it again, I just wanted to leave.
And TDKR has all of that during the first half, but the last half, aside from some issues, just GOES and that's why I enjoyed it. It left me happy.
The only issue I have with TDK is the last act. To me, it just goes on for too long. Now while I do love a lot of it, it just has this massive jump from a big FINAL SHOWDOWN WITH COPS AND HOLY ****! To a crazy guy in a very intimate environmental.
I do like that, but I wish it was done a bit tighter. It's really the ferry scene that brings it down. It's interesting to watch at first, but man....watching it again, I just wanted to leave.
And TDKR has all of that during the first half, but the last half, aside from some issues, just GOES and that's why I enjoyed it. It left me happy.
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It was rather jarring for me to be reminded of TDK when Bane whips out Dent's photo because by that point the movie felt so disconnected and far removed from TDK that it felt weird seeing Dent being brought up.
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Box Office Mojo:
Thanks to a massive opening in China, The Dark Knight Rises is now the 13th movie ever to reach $1 billion worldwide. Including Monday domestic grosses, The Dark Knight Rises has now made over $1.01 billion, which means sometime this weekend it passed The Dark Knight ($1.003 billion) to become the highest-grossing Batman movie ever.
Since opening last Monday, The Dark Knight Rises has earned $31 million in China. That's not quite the highest opening so far this year (that title belongs to Titanic 3D) but it is way up on The Avengers ($17.4 million) at least. The movie also debuted this weekend in Italy, where it earned $9.1 million including previews. That tally alone is 73 percent of The Dark Knight's total there, indicating that Italy will be a growth market for the three-quel. Through Sunday, the movie's foreign total was at a very impressive $577.7 million, and it will cross $600 million by next weekend.
The Batman series joins Pirates of the Caribbean as the only franchises with two $1 billion movies. The Dark Knight Rises is also now the second movie (after Avatar) to reach $100 million in worldwide IMAX grosses.
Based on the current trajectory, it's likely that The Dark Knight Rises winds up closing with just below $1.1 billion in worldwide grosses. That will be good for seventh place on the all-time worldwide chart, and third place all-time for a 2D-only title.
In a bizarre attempt to suppress ticket sales for imports, the China Film Group scheduled The Dark Knight Rises and The Amazing Spider-Man on the same weekend. Spider-Man actually came out slightly ahead: the movie scored an incredible $32.5 million since it debuted on Monday. That's more than Spider-Man 3 made in its entire run there, which is due to the rapid expansion of the market and the addition of 3D. The Amazing Spider-Man has now earned $474.5 million overseas (more than any Spider-Man movie except the third one) for a worldwide total of $735.1 million (still the lowest in the franchise).
The Expendables 2 grossed at least $26.4 million overseas this weekend. The action sequel had strong first place debuts in Germany ($4.2 million), Brazil ($3.7 million) and Australia ($3.1 million), and has now earned over $102 million in foreign markets.
Brave added $12.9 million this weekend for a new foreign total of $237.6 million. On a worldwide basis, it has now grossed over $470 million, and it is on pace to become the eighth Pixar movie (and sixth-in-a-row) to pass $500 million worldwide.
Total Recall continued its decent overseas campaign this weekend with a $4.4 million first-place start in the United Kingdom. Overall, the movie earned $12.6 million for a total of $98.3 million.
The Bourne Legacy took in another $12.4 million this weekend, which brings its total to $62.1 million. It took first place in Russia with $3.7 million, which is up 60 percent on The Bourne Ultimatum's debut. Next weekend, the Bourne reboot/spin-off expands in to South Korea, Brazil, Italy and more.
Coinciding with its first-place domestic opening, supernatural horror movie The Possession debuted with $5 million from 17 foreign markets this weekend. It did okay in the U.K. ($1.5 million) and Russia ($1.2 million), but was comparatively much stronger in Mexico where it took second place with $926,000.
The Avengers added $3.9 million this weekend for a new overseas total of $882.3 million. Including its domestic tally, and it is now the third movie ever to earn over $1.5 billion worldwide.
Thanks to a massive opening in China, The Dark Knight Rises is now the 13th movie ever to reach $1 billion worldwide. Including Monday domestic grosses, The Dark Knight Rises has now made over $1.01 billion, which means sometime this weekend it passed The Dark Knight ($1.003 billion) to become the highest-grossing Batman movie ever.
Since opening last Monday, The Dark Knight Rises has earned $31 million in China. That's not quite the highest opening so far this year (that title belongs to Titanic 3D) but it is way up on The Avengers ($17.4 million) at least. The movie also debuted this weekend in Italy, where it earned $9.1 million including previews. That tally alone is 73 percent of The Dark Knight's total there, indicating that Italy will be a growth market for the three-quel. Through Sunday, the movie's foreign total was at a very impressive $577.7 million, and it will cross $600 million by next weekend.
The Batman series joins Pirates of the Caribbean as the only franchises with two $1 billion movies. The Dark Knight Rises is also now the second movie (after Avatar) to reach $100 million in worldwide IMAX grosses.
Based on the current trajectory, it's likely that The Dark Knight Rises winds up closing with just below $1.1 billion in worldwide grosses. That will be good for seventh place on the all-time worldwide chart, and third place all-time for a 2D-only title.
In a bizarre attempt to suppress ticket sales for imports, the China Film Group scheduled The Dark Knight Rises and The Amazing Spider-Man on the same weekend. Spider-Man actually came out slightly ahead: the movie scored an incredible $32.5 million since it debuted on Monday. That's more than Spider-Man 3 made in its entire run there, which is due to the rapid expansion of the market and the addition of 3D. The Amazing Spider-Man has now earned $474.5 million overseas (more than any Spider-Man movie except the third one) for a worldwide total of $735.1 million (still the lowest in the franchise).
The Expendables 2 grossed at least $26.4 million overseas this weekend. The action sequel had strong first place debuts in Germany ($4.2 million), Brazil ($3.7 million) and Australia ($3.1 million), and has now earned over $102 million in foreign markets.
Brave added $12.9 million this weekend for a new foreign total of $237.6 million. On a worldwide basis, it has now grossed over $470 million, and it is on pace to become the eighth Pixar movie (and sixth-in-a-row) to pass $500 million worldwide.
Total Recall continued its decent overseas campaign this weekend with a $4.4 million first-place start in the United Kingdom. Overall, the movie earned $12.6 million for a total of $98.3 million.
The Bourne Legacy took in another $12.4 million this weekend, which brings its total to $62.1 million. It took first place in Russia with $3.7 million, which is up 60 percent on The Bourne Ultimatum's debut. Next weekend, the Bourne reboot/spin-off expands in to South Korea, Brazil, Italy and more.
Coinciding with its first-place domestic opening, supernatural horror movie The Possession debuted with $5 million from 17 foreign markets this weekend. It did okay in the U.K. ($1.5 million) and Russia ($1.2 million), but was comparatively much stronger in Mexico where it took second place with $926,000.
The Avengers added $3.9 million this weekend for a new overseas total of $882.3 million. Including its domestic tally, and it is now the third movie ever to earn over $1.5 billion worldwide.
Its exciting, intense, and emotionally satisfying with great characters, a great twist, and a spectacular finale. I'd say that about covers it.
thenammagazine
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WTF, what kind of world do we live in where Titanic 3D beats TDKR in China of all places?! 
WTF, what kind of world do we live in where Titanic 3D beats TDKR in China of all places?!
I will never understand why Titanic made so much money and why it is so loved,
it is worst than Twilight, people make fun of Twilight, yet the biggest movie in our history of cinema is a chick flick based on a catastrophe,
seriously I will never understand, it is one of those moments that make you think Wtf? and make you question the world's sanity,
why did Titanic become so big? a chick flick that rocked the world,
I can understand the historical value some people might say it has, and that it is a James Cameron movie,
but the biggest movie ever made, the most successful? why? WTF?
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The scale of the film was huge. It was an interesting topic that people loved to talk about. You could also assume that it appealed to most groups. Not like twilight where it mainly appeals to 40+ year old moms and teenagers.
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That goes without saying though...
I still dont see why it has to be the biggest when it comes to box office,
why did everyone need to see this? I get that it was going to be successful, yeah, I get that
but the most successful movie in our history? wtf?
You forgot blackmask.
Joke's on you
I don't watch Twilight
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Because it's a love story that appeals to everyone.
intothevoid
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This.
Great post.
I love that about Nolans style - I'm completely drawn into his stories, themes, moral dilemmas etc
Many times it's done at the expense of 'natural' sounding dialogue or character development
devilof76
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Skipped Nam's posts.
Skipped DiFabio's posts.
Celtic, wofford, Khev and void are dead on.
blackmask...
And with that, I'm caught up.
Skipped DiFabio's posts.
Celtic, wofford, Khev and void are dead on.
blackmask...
And with that, I'm caught up.
Sithlord1975
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So when does Iron Man 3 open up?
Viking Spawn
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So when does Iron Man 3 open up?
05/03/13...
https://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/10/20/iron-man-3-release-date/
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