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how did avengers 'destroy' TDKR at the box office ?? avengers was in the amazing fad that is 3D (so made more in overpriced tickets) Nolan doesnt fall for that crap. TDKR was one of if not THE biggest 2D opening of any movie ever.....lets see if Wheddon can make 3 films that are as solid as action packed and as genre defining as Nolan has...

It WAS the biggest 2D opening ever
 
Sacrifice, death, martyrdom, Christ like figure, bawling your damn eyes out with overacting, Batman and Harvey Dent Days, cafes, crappy terrorists that are retreads of the previous movies only worse, bad death scenes . . .


All that's not very Batman. In fact, take out "crappy terrorists" and replace it with "too many villains" and you have Spider-Man 3.

If Batman isn't fighting the mob or other city criminality, isn't fighting a colorful rogues gallery of crazies that treat Arkham like a revolving door and there's no Joker, who cares?

Oh, the end of Bruce Wayne's journey? Bruce Wayne is only interesting when he has mommy, daddy, and childhood issues and dresses up like a Bat as his therapy. If that's no longer happening, Bruce has no reason to exist. Batman is the only reason Bruce should have to live until he's too damn old or dead. Not trying to make your gay, old *****y butler happy or living your life on vacation in an Italian cafe.
 
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Sacrifice, death, martyrdom, Christ like figure, bawling your damn eyes out with overacting, Batman and Harvey Dent Days, crappy terrorists that are retreads of the previous movies only worse, bad death scenes . . .


All that's not very Batman. In fact, take out "crappy terrorists" and replace it with "too many villains" and you have Spider-Man 3.

If Batman isn't fighting the mob or other city criminality, isn't fighting a colorful rogues gallery of crazies that treat Arkham like a revolving door and there's no Joker, who cares?

Oh, the end of Bruce Wayne's journey? Bruce Wayne is only interesting when he has mommy and daddy issues and dresses up like a Bat as his therapy. If that's no longer happening, Bruce has no reason to exist. Batman is the only reason Bruce should have to live until he's too damn old or dead. Not trying to make you're gay, old *****y butler happy or living your life on vacation in an Italian cafe.

I rather see him die saving Gotham as the grizzled hero than sipping coffee with a family. :rotfl
 
I like the fact that they didn't kill off Bruce. I also think that he deserved to be happy after all that he did for the city. I don't get why everyone thinks that Bruce Wayne has to be Batman for all his life, or why he has to die in order for his mission to stop? Sure, I understand it's in the comics, but it's nice to know that there's a continuity out there where Bruce is rewarded with a happy life for all of his sacrifices. Y u no like Bruce Wayne b happy!?!?!
 
I rather see him die saving Gotham as the grizzled hero than sipping coffee with a family. :rotfl



Yeah, if you had to finish off his story (which these guys were hell bent on doing), have him go out in a blaze of glory.

And I'm not talking some melodramatic **** like a nuclear bomb and sacrifice. I'm talking pulse pounding, fist clenching, "Batman mode" where he's fighting the very thing that created him to the bitter end.


Or just end it after TDK. They basically said all they needed to about the character with Begins and TDK anyway. Yeah we wouldn't get to see Catwoman or "Robin" but, ehhh, at least this Batman would have his integrity intact.


"A silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight".


That's how you effectively end Batman (if you feel the need to end him) instead of stealing some quote from a book from the 1800s.
 
Here we go again...LOL...lot of nutty fanatics out there....
 
Sacrifice, death, martyrdom, Christ like figure, bawling your damn eyes out with overacting, Batman and Harvey Dent Days, cafes, crappy terrorists that are retreads of the previous movies only worse, bad death scenes . . .


All that's not very Batman. In fact, take out "crappy terrorists" and replace it with "too many villains" and you have Spider-Man 3.

If Batman isn't fighting the mob or other city criminality, isn't fighting a colorful rogues gallery of crazies that treat Arkham like a revolving door and there's no Joker, who cares?

Oh, the end of Bruce Wayne's journey? Bruce Wayne is only interesting when he has mommy, daddy, and childhood issues and dresses up like a Bat as his therapy. If that's no longer happening, Bruce has no reason to exist. Batman is the only reason Bruce should have to live until he's too damn old or dead. Not trying to make your gay, old *****y butler happy or living your life on vacation in an Italian cafe.

I don't think you're a Batman fan like you think you're a Batman fan.
 
I liked the ending. I was basically pretty sad for 75% of the movie, because I was almost positive they were setting everyhting up for Batman's death; it was nice to see him find peace for once and pass along the mantle.
 
I'm not even sure what constitutes as a Batman fan.
 
I like the fact that they didn't kill off Bruce. I also think that he deserved to be happy after all that he did for the city. I don't get why everyone thinks that Bruce Wayne has to be Batman for all his life, or why he has to die in order for his mission to stop? Sure, I understand it's in the comics, but it's nice to know that there's a continuity out there where Bruce is rewarded with a happy life for all of his sacrifices. Y u no like Bruce Wayne b happy!?!?!

that's fine, you don't need to have Batman die, you are right about that,

BUT It should not have taken 8 years of Bruce becoming a hermit over the Dead of his girlfriend to get him back on track,

His Parents DIED in front of him, they Died, he was little of course, but all he thought about was vengeance, justice, becoming a symbol.

this girl dies and he stops living his life...... stops being Batman..... lets his company collapse...
That Cannot be the same guy that wanted to become batman, It was too much, Nolan went too far.
I knew Bane was going to beat him up, but putting Bruce in a cell for the rest of the movie was too convenient for the bad guys,
I truly hated that, it was just a really bad Batman movie,

you have the hero destroyed from the beginning, then the doctor tells him his joints are too hurt,
then you have him appear briefly as batman,
see that was the bulls__ problem with this movie, is like Nolan didn't even gave a F___ about showing batman, his scenes with Catwoman were too fast, the fights were too fast, for a guy that is in pain and hurt and having trouble he sure fought Bane's Henchmen Better than he fought in Dark Knight,
he was taking out guys left and right with no problem,
those scenes in the beginning, the first time he fights with catwoman and fighting the henchmen before fighting Bane should have been longer and make Bruce work for it, it makes no sense to have Bruce beat up these guys like they are nothing but then have Bane crush him, What the F++ was Nolan Thinking?

I honestly think the lat thing Nolan cared about was the Batman itself,
all the Batman scenes before the end feel rushed, the fights were super rushed, he barely was in the batman suit at all.

It was almost like Nolan Himself was tired of the Batman, the movie has a lot of Bruce Wayne and a lot of Bane, even more Catwoman, but Batman was the least character seen, since Batman is itself a character technically,
 
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Just chiming in to the current discussion at hand.

I believe I've voiced my opinion on the other interpretations of Batman plenty. You don't like the Bruce Timm/Paul Dini BTAS stuff, does that make you any less of a fan of Batman? I personally don't think so. You probably like and appreciate the character as much as I do. There are some hardcore 66' Batman TV show fans out there that don't care about anything else. Are they any less of a Batman fan than those that only love the comics, or only love Burton or the Nolan interpretations?

We all have our own vision of what the character is or what we want them to be. I can promise that it'll be an amalgamation of different sources from comics to films to shows to games. No one interpretation has it all.

Besides, I love Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. Don't like TDKR. I don't see the problem. Because I've voiced it more than once? Everyone in this thread has ****ing done that. :lol
 
So if in the next Halloween Michael Myers speaks the entire film with a british accent and drinks tea and winds up giving up murder so he can retire to Italy w/ Laurie and live happily ever after I must not be a fan of those movies after all?

:lol

I'm with Fab 100 percent, this movie sucked, nothing about this was Batman. Still easily the worst movie Nolan's done in every way, piss poor writing, character motivation, plot flow, dialogue, uninspired cinematography, uninteresting locations. All of his other movies are great in one way or another, a few in most ways but this was rushed, disconnected garbage that Nolan just wanted to get over with.
 
So if in the next Halloween Michael Myers speaks the entire film with a british accent and drinks tea and winds up giving up murder so he can retire to Italy w/ Laurie and live happily ever after I must not be a fan of those movies after all?

:lol

I'm with Fab 100 percent, this movie sucked, nothing about this was Batman. Still easily the worst movie Nolan's done in every way, piss poor writing, character motivation, plot flow, dialogue, uninspired cinematography, uninteresting locations. All of his other movies are great in one way or another, a few in most ways but this was rushed, disconnected garbage that Nolan just wanted to get over with.

What does being a fan of "those movies" have to do with being a fan of the character? This film was 100% Batman because Batman can literally be whatever the writer wants him to be. You agree with Fab because you both have the same boxes that must be ticked or else you're on suicide watch and cry foul about it "not being the character." I say bull****, not only do you miss the mark on artistic and literary interpretation of a fictitional character, but you're ridiculous blinders are part of the reason we end up with the same rehashed **** over and over again until someone comes along in either medium and says **** the posers I'm going to step out and I'm going to pull from themes and make my own story. It's no coincedence that when that's happened you get the best Bat creations out there.
 
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