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I never thought Katie Holmes was particularly pretty. She is attractive, but every time she talked her face became slanted or something. It was very strange and distracting for me. Maggie isn't as attractive as Katie but I think she is a far superior actress so I was happy when she was cast and liked her in the role more than Holmes.

Katie is attractive but she has too much of a Dawson's perky quality to seem like she fits in a world like Nolan's Batman. Maggie has a greater rang of emotions she can convey and meet te needs of the moment an fit in very well for TDKR.
 
LOL, poor girl, I dont even hate her acting in TDK,

is she really that bad?
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All that is, is proof the Crypt Keeper can do Pin Up work with 15lbs of hooker paint shellacked on her face. :huh
 
Snyder directed TDKR :horror

"unlike the dark, confusing fight scenes in Batman Begins - is lensed in clear, crunching slo-mo that shows off every punishing blow."

I liked the BB fight scenes.

It was fast, furious, effective and to the point. It surely inspired the freeflow combat in the Arkham series. It was a young batman, so i thought the very quick dispatch and the flurry on screen portrayed the fast efficiency of batman very well. The thing to remember is, the fight scenes was always 4+ men on one, so the fast flurry was to confuse the group and to portray how fast and furious the combat was to the audience so they felt the same probably what the goons did.

TDK was abit less furious and was more about efficiency, but he wasnt really crowded in combat. Only exception was taking the 3 'doctors' on where he beat two in surprise and grabbed the 3rd one and neck punched him to the floor.

TDKR I bet will be about strength and power, laying the punches in the right place. Critical assessment of Banes weaknesses and focusing on defending and opportunist attacks.
 
Why do people always want good looking people in their movies? It may sound a bit douchy but I think she was actually was more convincing as Rachel Dawes BECAUSE she looked....well, less like a model?
 
Why do people always want good looking people in their movies? It may sound a bit douchy but I think she was actually was more convincing as Rachel Dawes BECAUSE she looked....well, less like a model?



Problem is bruce waynes a billionaire playboy. Katie holmes had a shy girl next door thing going on plus she brought alot of humility and chemistry to the screen with Bale.

Gyllenhaals voice grated like fook and A billionaire would never go for her. She was horrid in the role and the way she played Dent and Wayne wasnt convincing. Holnes wouldve been much more torn.

At the end of begins you could see the chemistry of 'this, this bruce is your true mask'. Gyllenhaal had no emotion when Bruce said 'the day where gotham no longer needs batman is close' she just replies 'when will you not need batman'. There was no believeability from gyllenhaal that she even like Wayne
 
TDK Rachel acts like she doesn't want to be with Bruce because she doesn't, she's moved on with Harvey and even before the press conference she senses that Bruce can't walk away from Batman, all his talk meant nothing, she knew better and she wouldn't allow herself to get her hopes up for a life with Bruce.

Rachel and Alfred both knew Bruce through coping with his parents and becoming Batman and both know he cannot walk away and worried about him. Now it's all on Alfred to watch out for Bruce.
 
TDK Rachel acts like she doesn't want to be with Bruce because she doesn't, she's moved on with Harvey and even before the press conference she senses that Bruce can't walk away from Batman, all his talk meant nothing, she knew better and she wouldn't allow herself to get her hopes up for a life with Bruce.



Yup but in BB she made out she would wait. It was just two different characters almost.
 
Yup but in BB she made out she would wait. It was just two different characters almost.

Yeah, cuz at that point he just started, in the time between BB and TDK, Batman takes a clear toll on Bruce and Alfred and Rachel see it and react to it. At some point Rachel comes to feel the day of no more Batman will never come and she gives up waiting, and I think that's a natural reaction and it serves to add to what it means for Bruce becoming Batman and in TDKR we will see Bruce even physically affected by the psychological pitfalls of the path he's taken.
 
My problem with Rachel is that she's nasty to Bruce and Harvey. Totally aside from her looks, I can't understand why either man would want to be with her based on her behavior in that movie. Does she say anything nice to anyone? I can't quote the movie but from memory all I can recall is sarcasm and criticism.
 
Really, cuz right after her first scene in the courtroom she's all smiles an basically suggests a nooner with Harvey.
 
My problem with Rachel is that she's nasty to Bruce and Harvey. Totally aside from her looks, I can't understand why either man would want to be with her based on her behavior in that movie. Does she say anything nice to anyone? I can't quote the movie but from memory all I can recall is sarcasm and criticism.

After rewatching both movies this past weekend I noticed she's snarky in both of them. Made me glad that she got blown up.
 
Really, cuz right after her first scene in the courtroom she's all smiles an basically suggests a nooner with Harvey.

Yeah but it's like "I got turned on when I just thought you were going to get shot."

After rewatching both movies this past weekend I noticed she's snarky in both of them. Made me glad that she got blown up.

Yeah she's no fun in part one, either. And she's like a serial DA ____er, too. When she blew up I could barely muster a "huh."
 
My problem with Rachel is that she's nasty to Bruce and Harvey. Totally aside from her looks, I can't understand why either man would want to be with her based on her behavior in that movie. Does she say anything nice to anyone? I can't quote the movie but from memory all I can recall is sarcasm and criticism.

I didn't get that feeling from her like I did from -- say -- Margot Kidder's Lois Lane. Never could figure what Clark saw in her.

Gyllenhaal's Rachel wasn't particularly nice, but I didn't see that she had all that many opportunities to be nice given the events of the movie. I thought Holmes's Rachel was pretty much a sanctimonious twerp, though. Nagging him about going to the trial, defending the release of the murderer (and stupid enough to miss the hit man plot), and then smacking Bruce when he wanted revenge on the guy that killed his parents -- snide comments about swimming, etc.

But, Bruce was kind of an ass when he was around her, at least after he came back ... so he might've had it coming later in the movie.

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Problem is bruce waynes a billionaire playboy. Katie holmes had a shy girl next door thing going on plus she brought alot of humility and chemistry to the screen with Bale.

Gyllenhaals voice grated like fook and A billionaire would never go for her. She was horrid in the role and the way she played Dent and Wayne wasnt convincing. Holnes wouldve been much more torn.

At the end of begins you could see the chemistry of 'this, this bruce is your true mask'. Gyllenhaal had no emotion when Bruce said 'the day where gotham no longer needs batman is close' she just replies 'when will you not need batman'. There was no believeability from gyllenhaal that she even like Wayne

I respectfully disagree, "horrid" seriously? She did WAY better then Katie Holmes, Bruce Wayne fell for her because they were childhood friends because he loved her! Bruce Wayne is NOT a playboy millionaire, that's just an act. He's Batman, and Batman loves Rachel Dawes. :panic:
 
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