The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[lambo944]

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I loved the part when batman was talking to catwoman then he looked back and she was gone and he says " So thats how it feels like" hahaha great homage to begins and TDK

 

[MasterSafara]

You referring to my post? I loved the voice.

Anyone who thinks it was over played.

 

[DarkMagic]

So:

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Was Bruce still alive or did Alfred imagine Bruce was there at the cafe.

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I can't believe this is still a question. Bruce is alive. Like someone said earlier, he left specific messages to everyone important to him, that they would understand, that he lived.

The messages were very specific to the point that they fulfilled a specific wish of each of his friends. Gordon got a new batsignal...symbol that though Bruce is gone, the Batman is "still in this with him together."

Lucius wished "there was something more that could've been done" to fix the autopilot program problem, and Bruce's message to him was "Yes, and I did it." (a full six months ago!)

Blake wanted the means to fight injustice without being tied down and restricted by structure and protocol that he got from being in the police department. He left Blake a bag with the coordinates to the Batcave and all of the gear he would need to get in. He left him the Batman identity.

And most obviously, he let his oldest ally, his surrogate father figure, Alfred, see him happy and moved on with his own eyes, exactly how he told him he wished he would see him. I don't really think it is open for interpretation, but still, even if you want to interpret that, there is one clue that is UNDENIABLE that Alfred isn't imagining it. If he was imagining Bruce at the end in the cafe, why would he also imagine Selina, with the pearls that are missing from the Wayne estate (a fact that they went out of their way to show us---even after we know Bruce got them back). Why not just imagine Bruce happy with any generic woman? He never knew Bruce made a personal connection with Selina, he left town way before that, when in his eyes, she was just a cat burgular that Batman was investigating.

There is no reason for Alfred to imagine Selina and the pearls. Because he isn't imagining.

 

[pred4life]

my message is not to short

 

[Fernandofan08]

More I think, more I adore Tom Hardys performance.

His voice was great, but what made it was his mannerisms. The way he used facial expressions, the way he articulated his words with gestures and his eyes and forhead, it was truly a fantastic performance. There was something, well Hitler like with how Hardy delivered his lines, used tones of voice and used gesticulation and articulation with the words. In his public speaking, he used theatricality to his words, the words to deceive gotham.

Theatricality and Fear are powerful tools, but not all theatricality and tools have to be physical weapons. I believe, Banes articulation and the fear he instilled about the lies the GCPD and Gotham led to believe are just as powerful as the physical presence and fear he instilled.

Its quite a deep performance because the more you look, the more damage Bane did compared to Joker. Joker didnt break Gothams spirit. The prisoners and the Innocents didnt blow each other up. But Bane turned Gotham city. He instilled the fear of lies, he broke the bat, he broke the GCPD and he broke Gotham for months. He achieved what Joker never did.

Camera trickery made Bane seem taller than Hardy, much stronger, much more Bulky.

I think he is on Par with Joker. Why? Because Joker maximised what was possible with Joker. Hardy Maximised what was possible with Bane. There was always going to be much more depth to Joker, because he is the psychological thorn in Batmans side. The one who tests his psychological healt, who tests his beliefs.

But Bane did the exact same to Batman, but he tested his physical heath and his psychological health also. Both Joker and Bane pushed Batman to the edge; One physical, the other psychological. This is why I believe TDK and TDKR are equal. Because the two sides of Batman are tested to the maximum by two characters which are totally different, by two actors who maximised their performances with the character they had.

 

[DarkMagic]

Anyone who thinks it was over played.

Well, I think it was over played in some scenes, but as a conscious decision by the actor (and possibly director)...not because he was trying too hard or couldn't get the voice right or anything like that. I think he very specifically hit the mark he was going for...and I don't think it was a bad decision by any means. I loved it.

 

[greygoose]

More I think, more I adore Tom Hardys performance.

His voice was great, but what made it was his mannerisms. The way he used facial expressions, the way he articulated his words with gestures and his eyes and forhead, it was truly a fantastic performance. There was something, well Hitler like with how Hardy delivered his lines, used tones of voice and used gesticulation and articulation with the words. In his public speaking, he used theatricality to his words, the words to deceive gotham.

Theatricality and Fear are powerful tools, but not all theatricality and tools have to be physical weapons. I believe, Banes articulation and the fear he instilled about the lies the GCPD and Gotham led to believe are just as powerful as the physical presence and fear he instilled.

Its quite a deep performance because the more you look, the more damage Bane did compared to Joker. Joker didnt break Gothams spirit. The prisoners and the Innocents didnt blow each other up. But Bane turned Gotham city. He instilled the fear of lies, he broke the bat, he broke the GCPD and he broke Gotham for months. He achieved what Joker never did.

Camera trickery made Bane seem taller than Hardy, much stronger, much more Bulky.

I think he is on Par with Joker. Why? Because Joker maximised what was possible with Joker. Hardy Maximised what was possible with Bane. There was always going to be much more depth to Joker, because he is the psychological thorn in Batmans side. The one who tests his psychological healt, who tests his beliefs.

But Bane did the exact same to Batman, but he tested his physical heath and his psychological health also. Both Joker and Bane pushed Batman to the edge; One physical, the other psychological. This is why I believe TDK and TDKR are equal. Because the two sides of Batman are tested to the maximum by two characters which are totally different, by two actors who maximised their performances with the character they had.

 

[intothevoid]

More I think, more I adore Tom Hardys performance.

His voice was great, but what made it was his mannerisms. The way he used facial expressions, the way he articulated his words with gestures and his eyes and forhead, it was truly a fantastic performance.

Camera trickery made Bane seem taller than Hardy, much stronger, much more Bulky.

I think he is on Par with Joker. Why? Because Joker maximised what was possible with Joker. Hardy Maximised what was possible with Bane. There was always going to be much more depth to Joker, because he is the psychological thorn in Batmans side. The one who tests his psychological healt, who tests his beliefs.

But Bane did the exact same to Batman, but he tested his physical heath and his psychological health also. Both Joker and Bane pushed Batman to the edge; One physical, the other psychological. This is why I believe TDK and TDKR are equal. Because the two sides of Batman are tested to the maximum by two characters which are totally different, by two actors who maximised their performances with the character they had.

Good analysis - Hardy got the most out of Bane IMO. But I think Ledger's performance was superior. I think Hathaway as Catwoman was also bloody AMAZING and even better than Bane.

Embarrasment of riches really when you look at the villains across the trilogy, each one has been handles superbly.

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Neeson's Ra's cameo was magnificent

I think in the final analysis though my favourite will be between BB and TDKR, because they both explore Bruce Wayne's story more deeply than TDK. Love TDK too of course but it's definitely 3rd on my list.

 

[lambo944]

Good analysis - Hardy got the most out of Bane IMO. But I think Ledger's performance was superior. I think Hathaway as Catwoman was also bloody AMAZING and even better than Bane.

Embarrasment of riches really when you look at the villains across the trilogy, each one has been handles superbly.

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Neeson's Ra's cameo was magnificent

I think in the final analysis though my favourite will be between BB and TDKR, because they both explore Bruce Wayne's story more deeply than TDK. Love TDK too of course but it's definitely 3rd on my list.

I'm on the same boat

 

[freestylex06x]

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hmm i loved this movie but some stills didnt rub me the right way. did not like blake getting the batcave and taking up the batman identity. for me only bruce wayne can be batman. also didn't like bane's lame death. seemed like bane ended up being a mere henchman by the end of the movie.

 

[CelticPredator]

SPOILERS DUDE. What the hell!???

 

[brucecamblzchin]

Surely everyone has seen the flick by now?

 

[CelticPredator]

Not by now. You have to wait a week. I saw it. But it's stupid to ruin it for the rest of them.

 

[brucecamblzchin]

There is some big spoilers in there for sure.

 

[Sachiel]

It's not released everywhere yet. Though the thread at this point is mostly full of spoilers that there's no point coming here if you're not looking for any.

 

[carbo-fation]

I thought it was established that we should wait at least a week before using open spoilers? Also, don't come into a movie thread about a movie you haven't seen.

 

[brucecamblzchin]

I thought it was established that we should wait at least a week before using open spoilers? Also, don't come into a movie thread about a movie you haven't seen.

Exactly. Especially AFTER the movie has been released 'oh dude spoilers wtf!' dude what are u doing in the thread!

Anyways Bruce Wayne wakes up and it was all a dream

 

[wHySoSeRiOuS203]

and the top is still spinning at the end...

 

[subzro]

I know there is another thread for this but I thought this was cool.



https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-bl...-survivor-162047042--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[DFanatic]

I haven't watched it yet. The line was going around the block the other day, at freaking 11am. I'm gonna wait until Tuesday to go see it.

Oh, but regarding the spoiler: