The Dark Knight Rises USE SPOILER TAGS

Wor-Gar · Jun 18, 2012

intothevoid said:
We'd seen the Joker plenty - HT just did a horrible job

And about the plot, we know the same basic stuff as we know about TDKR IMO including the entire opening for TDK just as we've seen for TDKR.

For me the trailers for TDKR have thrown up more questions than answers - most importantly about the timescale of things, Bruce looks really old and weak at some points. And we know he's retired for a while, we know he comes back as Batman, we know Bane imprisons him, we know he escapes, but we don't know what happens to him at the end, and we really don't know how all the above pieces fit together in terms of the order of events

We don't know Bane's origin, we don't know who his army is, we don't know what role Ra's has, we don't know what role Talia has, we don't know if other villains make cameos or not, we don't know much at all about Catwoman except what we can guess at. We don't know much about John Blake. We don't know who all get hurt or killed by Bane.

I could go on...

You've done well then to avoid the spoilers. I can answer all those questions up there, including who Blake is.

Anyway, I certainly hope there's more to this movie than what's been shown so far -- and we're still 3-4 weeks out -- but I have a feeling we all know more than we realize. Except how it all ends. But I can guess that too.

intothevoid · Jun 18, 2012

Wor-Gar said:
That's all in May though for TDK.

We've known what Bane and Catwoman looks like for months. We've seen trailer a year ago. That prologue trailer (Bane's opening) was months ago.

Am I seeing the same stuff you guys are? I know TDK was heavily marketed, but heavily marketed and showing you the entire movie in advance are two different things. With TDK, we didn't know what Joker looked like or what he was like, etc. Didn't know the story. Didn't see Two-Face. But with TDKR, we know everything it seems.

We knew exactly what he looked like. And we'd heard more Joker dialogue than we've heard Bane dialogue so far.

We had seen a glimpse of Two Face with the last TDK trailer.

But we haven't seen anything of Ra's or Talia with TDKR, officially. We've seen very little of Catwoman, probably all of 10 seconds of her in action in the suit. And btw there's been rumours of other characters making cameos which obviously we've seen nothing of

thenammagazine · Jun 18, 2012

ZaCHw117 said:
It was in December. Same month the prologue was for TDK.

Than a trailer right afterwords, just like TDK's marketing. Then a huge gap of no info from then till May. Just like TDK.

I think Nam is thinking about the latest theatrical.

Yeah, not the bull____ little stuff. The main trailers.

Wor-Gar · Jun 18, 2012

ZaCHw117 said:
It was in December. Same month the prologue was for TDK.

Than a trailer right afterwords, just like TDK's marketing. Then a huge gap of no info from then till May. Just like TDK.

I think Nam is thinking about the latest theatrical.

Obviously then it is the same marketing pattern, you guys would know better than me, but I still say its revealing a lot more about the movie than the TDK marketing did. That's my point. I know more about this movie than I did about TDK. And i'm really not trying to follow it.

intothevoid · Jun 18, 2012

Wor-Gar said:
You've done well then to avoid the spoilers. I can answer all those questions up there, including who Blake is.

Anyway, I certainly hope there's more to this movie than what's been shown so far -- and we're still 3-4 weeks out -- but I have a feeling we all know more than we realize. Except how it all ends. But I can guess that too.

I have 'educated' guesses to answers for all these but they are no more than guesses.

ZaCHw117 · Jun 18, 2012

You must be reading into spoiler territory then Wor, because I have no idea what role Blake is going to play, only that there is more to his character than probably meats the eye.

Wor-Gar · Jun 18, 2012

intothevoid said:
We knew exactly what he looked like. And we'd heard more Joker dialogue

I really don't remember it that way. You mean we all saw the HT sculpt and said "that looks just like Ledger"? I remember seeing glimpses, frosted glass, etc. I don't recall knowing anything about Ledger's Joker -- other than his laugh -- before I saw the movie.

But for this one, seems I can't avoid it.

Wor-Gar · Jun 18, 2012

ZaCHw117 said:
You must be reading into spoiler territory then Wor, ...

I must be. And here I thought I was avoiding the stuff pretty good but I keep seeing things. :lol

jye4ever · Jun 18, 2012

ZaCHw117 said:
You must be reading into spoiler territory then Wor, because I have no idea what role Blake is going to play, only that there is more to his character than probably meats the eye.