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Human consciousness has a broader range than any other animal on the planet. Conceptual awareness is what allows us to deal with information beyond the limits of our senses, something which no other animal is able. The rub is that using a human mind is voluntary; you don't have automatic knowledge the way animals do, so you lack the infallibility of instinct to guide your life.

Yes, simpler animals have an easier time surviving. If survival is your standard, then I wish you well in your admiration of cockroaches. Dare to dream.

Your response to my thread has nothing to do with what I wrote other than mentioning roaches but, I'll correct you anyway.

I do not know what you are referring to regarding conceptional awareness.

Humans have instincts, they did not go away just because we are the most intelligent species. Some human instincts include caring for our young, being social, monogamous, fight or flight, sexual desire, etc.

Simpler animals do not have an easier time surviving; what information led you to believe that?

Roaches will just survive us because they can live in irradiated areas, eat almost anything, are an R-select species, are numerous, and widespread.

*just as a side note, I know evolutionary biology and zoology and other similar sciences quite well.

I have bachelors degree in environmental studies ecology from Binghamton University. I worked at the Bronx zoo, the American Museum of Natural History's department of mammalology, and a company making their own nature films. I have taken a few graduate classes at the Smithsonian-Mason School for Conservation Biology. I have read 6 or so Richard Dawkins books on evolutionary biology, almost everyone he has printed. And, read hundreds of books about wildlife and am addicted to nature programs.
 
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Scientists have been hellbent on finding more planets in the habitable zone of it's parent star.

But that's the problem. We're basically looking for other lifeforms exactly like us. It's possible there's millions of other species out there (intelligent) and Humans are simply just one of them. But that's us.. center of the universe mentality. :lol
 
I'm sorry, were you insulted? In the future, I'll be certain to consult you prior to posting information that challenges your received wisdom.

if you weren't ignorant on the subject I could have a conversation with you.

I'm not interested in taking this any further and starting a flame war.

Hf.
 
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Yes, you are. If you weren't, you'd have taken the trouble to not call me ignorant. But, you can't help it. You just plain don't know what to do besides dismiss me in the strongest possible meaningless terms.

It doesn't work. But, please. Continue.
 
I would like to chime in on this topic with a very interesting and science based concept, ZPE or Zero Point Energy, it is what is left over in a true vacuum and is everywhere, meaning if you were to make a vacuum in a tube you would remove all gases, solids and liquids, then you would have to drop the temp to remove heat energy to 270c I believe, then you have ZPE meaning when nothing is left there is still something there, what's there is a sea of electromagnetic energy. Hope that makes some sense.

Now that in and of itself isn't new, what has come to light in resent years is that there is more ZPE now than in the past, the reason for that is the expanding universe, just like when you stretch a rubber band you add kinetic energy to it the same thing happens with the universe, as it expands the more ZPE gets added, meaning its growing in power so to speak and has had a profound effect on 3 very important things, first the speed of light, the speed of light is slowing down and is not the constant we thought it was, reason being ZPE.

In the past when ZPE was less light traveled faster because the light was not obstructed by it, you see the ZPE is a sea of electromagnetic energy that produces particles that enter reality for a fraction of a second and then depart, light hits these particles which slows it down very slightly but enough to have an effect, and as ZPE has increased the speed of light has been decreasing.

The second thing ZPE effects is time, if you take one of the main principals for the atomic clock it is based on the rotation of the electrons orbit, that in turn is also impeded by the increased ZPE, so atomic processes are slowed down meaning time moved faster in the past then it does today, which explains why our concept of times past is so warped.

Third thing effected by ZPE is life itself, what we have in our body's is a network of electrical nerve systems that transmit signals through our body's, so ZPE having increased over time the slower our signals move, on small creatures such as ourselves it makes little difference but on larger scale creatures it can be profound, if you take the largest dinosaur that existed it would take it about 40 seconds in todays ZPE to get a signal from its tail to its head and another 40 seconds to react, meaning that creature could not function on the planet today with current ZPE levels, we know their have been thousands of large dinosaurs and giant insects in the earths past from the fossil record, this just may be one reason in many why they no longer exist.

Sorry for the long post but I figured I needed to explain it so people understood what I'm talking about:monkey3
 
Think you worry too much. We live on a lively planet around a strong sun.

You talking to me?:lol If so not sure what you got out of my post, I'm not worried about life ending, I'm actually pointing toward something and I should have stated that, the principles I mentioned point to a young universe, if you take that data and apply it to what scientists do in the lab today with micro plasma universes and upscale them to the size of the perceived universe then account for no or less ZPE at time of big bang or creation, take your pick, being the ZPE had not much effect at that time due to less of it being present, meaning the speed of light was faster and the atomic processes were running at full steam ahead and if atomic processes effect time the data shows that a 6 day creation is plausible, but also meaning its actually old and young at the same time depending on your perspective of time... a little bit mind bending I know.
 
Not talking about life ending but again, you talking about things that is irrelevant. Not sure or even care about ZPE since Mr. Green believe there is always energy in one form or another. But you're linking it to the big bang, which is still a theory, like it's a fact. You're linking to creation and the speed of light? All we really have are telescope and there is definitely a limit to what we think we know. What you're saying is far out and basically abstract that it doesn't matter. Heck, the current administration is trying to do away with climate change, supposedly to promote business or whatever, you think they care?
 
Not talking about life ending but again, you talking about things that is irrelevant. Not sure or even care about ZPE since Mr. Green believe there is always energy in one form or another. But you're linking it to the big bang, which is still a theory, like it's a fact. You're linking to creation and the speed of light? All we really have are telescope and there is definitely a limit to what we think we know. What you're saying is far out and basically abstract that it doesn't matter. Heck, the current administration is trying to do away with climate change, supposedly to promote business or whatever, you think they care?

Irrelevant? In a thread about the expanding universe, what I am talking about can help folks get some understanding of the said expanding universe or at least that was the idea, I'm not a great teacher:lol. Yes the big bang is a theory for sure, I just mention it as people typically ascribe to creation or big bang to describe the beginning of things. I'm not linking ZPE to ether big bang or creation, it is a scientific fact that it exists and as the universe expands ZPE becomes more abundant over time which effects light, time, and electrical currents to a degree. With that understanding it can help us better understand another interesting mystery of the universe.

You might be right about it being abstract, it is not an easy thing to rap ones head around, it does matter, but only if your interested in the subject.
 
There is nothing wrong with space exploration, research, understanding, theoretical physic, and to some point lab or data extrapolation. And there is enough data to support the idea that the universe is indeed expanding. But you're linking ZPE to the extinction of dinosaurs or some thousands of them? Maybe ZPE exist to some area but the universe is so large that no one can really make much claim if any. Most of what you post are purely unproven as well. No one can be there to physically measure such claims. Facts, or what people believe as facts, gets disproven/debunked all the time.

On the other hand, it is good you have an interest in this subject.
 
There is nothing wrong with space exploration, research, understanding, theoretical physic, and to some point lab or data extrapolation. And there is enough data to support the idea that the universe is indeed expanding. But you're linking ZPE to the extinction of dinosaurs or some thousands of them? Maybe ZPE exist to some area but the universe is so large that no one can really make much claim if any. Most of what you post are purely unproven as well. No one can be there to physically measure such claims. Facts, or what people believe as facts, gets disproven/debunked all the time.

On the other hand, it is good you have an interest in this subject.

Agreed, one thing to point out is I do not claim ZPE is the cause the extinction of the dinosaurs and other large scale creatures an insects of enormous size , no one really knows that, just a another possibility among many like oxygen levels and meteors.
 
Long before humanity will begin to touch the universe we need to at least expand out into our solar system.
New article were Hawking states that we've got another century on earth before it all goes to ****, yet again.

Mars or bust.
 
There have/are (if you include the current one) 6 mass extinctions.

The most well known of them is Createius-Paleogene extinction event which was a mass extinction of about three quarters of the earth's plant and animal species that occurred 66 million years ago. It is known by most people as the one that lead to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

The event was caused by an asteroid that landed in what today is the Yucatán Peninsula in the Gulf of Mexico. There is more evidence than I care to list but, the event is widely accepted by the majority of the scientific community as the cause of the mass extinction.

The dinosaurs were not driven to the extinction by zero point energy. That is literally insane thinking.

Frankly, I read a lot of scientific articles and have never even heard of it. I think it has something to do with quantum mechanics.

Well. I just read about it and zero point energy is based on complicated and abstract mathematical calculations done by some very brilliant mathematicians and physicists. It is pretty far removed from anything that concerns life on earth.
 
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Scientific america just posted an article about "moon brick" that will be used to build structures on the moon. So that will happen at some point.
 
There have/are (if you include the current one) 6 mass extinctions.

The most well known of them is Createius-Paleogene extinction event which was a mass extinction of about three quarters of the earth's plant and animal species that occurred 66 million years ago. It is known by most people as the one that lead to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

The event was caused by an asteroid that landed in what today is the Yucatán Peninsula in the Gulf of Mexico. There is more evidence than I care to list but, the event is widely accepted by the majority of the scientific community as the cause of the mass extinction.

The dinosaurs were not driven to the extinction by zero point energy. That is literally insane thinking.

Frankly, I read a lot of scientific articles and have never even heard of it. I think it has something to do with quantum mechanics.

Well. I just read about it and zero point energy is based on complicated and abstract mathematical calculations done by some very brilliant mathematicians and physicists. It is pretty far removed from anything that concerns life on earth.

Well I wasn't saying it was the cause of the dinosaur extinction, I stated that before, just that its one of the reasons large scale dinosaurs could not exist today in current times at the current level of ZPE, the concept does seem abstract but once the implications are understood it does have some barring on life and on understanding the universe we live in.

If anyone's interested in hearing it from one of the actual scientists that discovered ZPE's effects on light, time and life here's a video of him explaining it, its not a short video and be warned he is a bible believer as I'm I. I am not trying to bring religion into this thread or start a debate, this is the best and simplest explanation I can provide on this subject.

 
Ummm.

Ok read some more about the subject.

He is a creationist cosmologist and preaches pseudo science. His claims have proven to be false. He and his ideas are dismissed by the legitimate scientific community.

This stuff is not exactly "mind blowing" as you keep repeating.
 
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