The Expanding Universe

[Pork Chop Express]

I've heard of him, and others with similar views on related topics. When the web has nothing left to offer I sometimes end up watching UFO and Bigfoot videos on YouTube. Lots of people "in the know" taking about all kings of stuff like that.

 

[Snake Plissken]

It never occurred to me how much Carl Sagan sounded like Agent Smith.

 

[Mr. Green]

What? Time not fourth dimension? LOL

 

[Snake Plissken]

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-to-send-americans-back-to-moon-eventually-to

Trump to sign directive to send Americans back to moon, eventually to Mars

 

[Pork Chop Express]

Sure.

Space X or Soyuz rocket?
Maybe something hidden in a hanger in some desert.
I'm all for it but without real details it's just talk.

 

[Mr. Green]

He have been cutting cost left and right. Suddenly this? Lots of logic there, lol.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Sure.

Space X or Soyuz rocket?
Maybe something hidden in a hanger in some desert.
I'm all for it but without real details it's just talk.

Hard to say. Everyone's already bitching about this "WE BYEEN TO DA MUUN!"

It's lost on people that it's going to probably be the staging point for the Mars mission. NASA's budget is minuscule in the scheme of things, and so much tech has come out of it.

 

[Shawpaw]

NASA deserves more money that handouts.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Certainly does. Brings jobs, and tech as I said. People think due to their achievements, it costs way more than it actually does.

We've been to the Moon before. So what. I'd think it would be a morale boost for humanity.

And shut up with "we need to help are people here." It's always people walking around with the newest iPhone, driving Escalades telling you what needs to be done to help other people. Blow me. We waist enough on subsidies to people that don't need it.

 

[Pork Chop Express]

We've been to the Moon before. So what. I'd think it would be a morale boost for humanity.

Agreed on that.


Space exploration should be at the top of the list. Humanity is multiplying with increasing limited resources and the longer we stay on Earth the more likely it will get FUBAR. I think it's something that all nations can get behind so that all can benefit (I hope). But inevitably politics will get involved somehow.

Stop fighting endless wars and get out into our solar system already, everything we need to succeed is out there somewhere we just have to get to it.

 

[Shawpaw]

Agreed. The movie idiocracy is an accurate prediction of the future.

 

[devilof76]

Only if people continue to be the cowards they've proven themselves to be over the past century. Resources are abstract. You only have issues if markets aren't able to function (i.e., unregulated).

Which is why government space programs are a waste. Let people build the wealth and figure it out on their own.

So happy we're past the five-year plan stage of political knuckledragging. Tax people, throw money at something that makes the mobile watchers stop crying, and now you're a real President.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Agreed on that.


Space exploration should be at the top of the list. Humanity is multiplying with increasing limited resources and the longer we stay on Earth the more likely it will get FUBAR. I think it's something that all nations can get behind so that all can benefit (I hope). But inevitably politics will get involved somehow.

Stop fighting endless wars and get out into our solar system already, everything we need to succeed is out there somewhere we just have to get to it.

It's the only next step for humanity. We can't settle our differences here, so maybe we should put some "space" between each other. We got a four billion year or so headstart to get our **** together because this place isn't forever.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Agreed. The movie idiocracy is an accurate prediction of the future.

The future? It's been here for years

 

[devilof76]

It's the only next step for humanity. We can't settle our differences here, so maybe we should put some "space" between each other. We got a four billion year or so headstart to get our **** together because this place isn't forever.

The differences of opinion here run deeper than space. Humanity's problem is one of character (or a lack thereof) and if you send that into space, you won't leave any troubles behind.

And since government appears to be the repository for the lowest characters, why on Earth would you give them the car keys?

Science should be as separate from government as religion.

 

[Mr. Green]

Have to agree with devil, shockingly, on the last post. Besides, the distance in space is so vast that it will take decades, if not centuries, to send someone to Mars. We all know that the first one is basically a suicide mission. Colonization is a generation away and probably only the rich will get the chance, once it's stable. Whatever technologically discovery in space will eventually be shared anyway; a lot of our products are produced from other countries anyway.

Having said that, Mr. Green is not saying we should abandon space experiment/exploration. Just that more money isn't going to solve anything.

 

[Pork Chop Express]

The differences of opinion here run deeper than space. Humanity's problem is one of character (or a lack thereof) and if you send that into space, you won't leave any troubles behind.

Agreed on that, but there's never a good time to do anything and things aren't slowing down.

If we can at least get further out into our solar system that's a start. No reason to not use the moon as a starting point, unless the people that are already there don't want us there. Or build a new space station.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Agreed on that, but there's never a good time to do anything and things aren't slowing down.

If we can at least get further out into our solar system that's a start. No reason to not use the moon as a starting point, unless the people that are already there don't want us there. Or build a new space station.

Leaving the Solar System is the only goal humanity could achieve, and should achieve. The rest of trivial nonsense bickering that can't be legislated in going away. It's up to the people. I cannot understand why social issues are conflated with exploration.

Going to Mars is the first step for us into a larger world.

I'd much rather see tax money go into this, than stupid bailouts and companies that just fold. Everything NASA puts together trickled down to the common folk. This would be no different.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I've been reading a manga (Planetes), that is completely based on this principle.



While it wouldn't affect anyone on Earth, but it's going to come to a point that we just can't live this world ever again.

 

[devilof76]

$700 billion in bailouts is no different than $700 billion in spaceships, other than that one is congruent with your personal values and one is not.