The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

[The Chev]

I'd rather see more of....

 

[jye4ever]

AUJ EE kicked ***, much better than what I remember in the theater.

Sure LOTR had stunt men vs stunt men orc battles that felt more real, but that doesn't take away from the overall fun and excitement I had watching this.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

wicked..

 

[Niltusk]

Now don't get me wrong, Lurtz remains my favorite.

I must be under a Josh spell.

*Teh Josh begins casting a spell*

 

[JAWS]

Hmmm. Yes, I felt the score added to parts of the film. It's a very Good score, but where FotR, TT, and ROTK's scores had almost every single track be powerful, DoS only had a few. If I was ranking scores though, this would be last.

Well, I don't feel nothing happened leading up to it, but you seem to not be a fan of the middle chapter of TT as well, unless you just didn't care for the EX cut of TT.

A few things that happened on the way to meet Smaug that set-up things in the next film.

I will be very interested in your thoughts on TABA next year.

I actually prefer the EX cut of TTT to the regular cut... In fact I find it to be the one of the three that benefited most from the EX cut. Many new characters were given more personality and more story. Faramir being the best example of this. I could care less about him in the regular version but the EX cut helped out his character immensely. I could have done without the Extra Tree beard stuff. My problems with TTT are that I think it is by far the most bring of the Rings films. I mean they had to add a Warg action scene to help the film move along. Helms Deep was OK but it kept getting interrupted by tree Beard speeches and there was no sense of loss or Danger... The Good Guys win again... I always thought FOTR ended more like the middle part of the story... The Fellowship is Broken, Gandalf is Dead, Marry and Pippin have been taken... Things are bleak. Some of this is the fault of the source material... But I think Shelob is in the TTT story right?? that is almost how it should have ended with Frodo being taken by the Orks after Shelob got him.

I have the same perception for this movie, your review is so complete and true, I don't have to write one. It was like I was reading my mind.

Thanks.

No Problem!

I gotta agree about the score for this one, easily the weakest. I've been playing it in the car and there are zero stand out tracks, nothing hummable.

Yeah it's weak... Not bad. But nothing that stands out at all.

Nothing happened? Really? Ok

Now I know that it may all be setting up for the third film but as a story unto itself.... Nothing of important happens to move the story or effect the characters. I have to assume that the Bear man shows up again in the third film... Otherwise there was no need. The Spiders.... While a cool scene did not add anything to the story as far as plot goes. Sure Bilbo was a hero again but that kind of got lost in all the action... Kidnapped by the Elves... Well that's great and all but what did it add to this story.. Other then an intro to made up Legolas adventures that really add nothing to the film. Finally we meet Bard (which I know is important to part 3) and Smaug... But like I said before.... The Eagles dropped them off in part 1 and they could have walked right up to River town and then to Lonely mt and we would have not missed a thing.

Now understand this is an adventure and it's about getting there and all of that... But that is why I think it's a flaw that that they turned this into three films and not two. There was lots of stuff to look at more no defining character moments. Had half of this taken place in the first film and the other half in the third then it would not feel like a bunch of filler till we get to Smaug....

I know this may all change when I see the third film... As the story will be complete. But like I said... As a stand alone film this movie really went nowhere until the final 40 min.

 

[jye4ever]

Jaws, I get what you're saying about DOS, and I do prefer AUJ over DOS, but there were at least 3 important specific character moments in DOS.

Thorin's selfish side finally came out.

Necromancer was finally revealed to be Sauron.

Bard story started here.

I'm sure there are more if others want to elaborate.

 

[occulum]

Good to see it finish #1 but it's lower than I wanted to see.

Glad it beat that ******* Anchorman movie.

... not often you see Josh dropping down to the name calling "hater" level.
At least its not going up against AUJ. Then it would've been a true battle of comedies.

 

[The Josh]

Jaws no offense but I don't feel like answering that post. If you really think nothing happened then it's not worth my time explaining why you're incorrect.

... not often you see Josh dropping down to the name calling "hater" level.

I don't know if I'd call it hater or not. I thought the first one was dumb and surprised they wasted time making a second.

 

[RIDDICK]

The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

I thought the first one was dumb and surprised they wasted time making a second.

Lovely

 

[The Ween]

I liked both movies........so there!

 

[The Josh]

Lovely

This is coming from a guy who have Doom an 8/10.

 

[Niltusk]

I liked both movies........so there!

Awesome gif

 

[TURINS~BANE]

I liked both movies........so there!

hey..wtf nice..

 

[guyver1]

Anybody who have seen this, planning to fit one more viewing this Christmas weekend?

 

[The Ween]

Awesome gif

Someone posted that on Facebook and I had to post it somewhere.

 

[The Ween]

Anybody who have seen this, planning to fit one more viewing this Christmas weekend?

I hope to go on Christmas Day. If not, I'll go within a few days of it.

 

[The Josh]

Anybody who have seen this, planning to fit one more viewing this Christmas weekend?

Probably not this upcoming week. I want to see Saving Mr. Banks and 47 Ronin but the following week I'll see it again.

 

[guyver1]

Probably not this upcoming week. I want to see Saving Mr. Banks and 47 Ronin but the following week I'll see it again.

Those look like good films but I have a feeling that DOS is going to Desolate the box office this Xmas weekend

 

[The Josh]

Those look like good films but I have a feeling that DOS is going to Desolate the box office this Xmas weekend

Both look interesting to me for totally different reasons. I hope it does. Would be nice to see a solid third weekend.

 

[JAWS]

Jaws, I get what you're saying about DOS, and I do prefer AUJ over DOS, but there were at least 3 important specific character moments in DOS.

Thorin's selfish side finally came out.

Necromancer was finally revealed to be Sauron.

Bard story started here.

I'm sure there are more if others want to elaborate.

Thorin's Selfish side came out in the last 40 min.... Which is when I said things start to happen... Yes BArd was introduced and like I said I know he is important.... It't why I said the events between the end of the first Hobbit until they reached Lake town almost feel like they could have been skipped.... AS a stand alone film... I know there is more to the Elves in the third film... But it's why I keep saying this would have made a better two part film then a one part film.

Sauron is also revealed in the last 40 min..... But I also HAte that it IS sauron that is revealed.... But I will admit just because I don't like it does not mean that nothing happened So yes the Sauron thing was something.

There are also small moments that I liked.... Bilbo telling the spider thing he just Killed "mine" when he got the ring back.... It showed the power of the riing.... But moments like that were to few for me.

Anyways I am not saying anyone has to agree with me.. I wish I loved it as much as some on this board.

Jaws no offense but I don't feel like answering that post. If you really think nothing happened then it's not worth my time explaining why you're incorrect.

I fully understand... I mean there is not really anything you can come back with... My case is air tight and 100% correct... I wouldnt want to argue against it either

In all seriousness... I know that some of these things will become important in the third films (the elves) but as a stand alone film they could have showed up in lake town right after the events in the first film and nobody would know they missed a thing.... Well Until the third film Oh and they might wonder why Legolas and some elf chick are running around and why does one of the dwarves have an arrow in his leg and is in love with the Elf Chick. Basically all the made up stuff so there could be the illusion of somehting happening

I just look at all the films and this one just felt like mostly filler. I mean hell there is more action but a shorter run time. I missed the character moments and the "world/enviroments" of middle earth.

Oh well..... Agree to disagree. Anyways Josh... It's not like I am trying to show how you are "incorrect". I am just explaing why the film did not work for me as a whole.


PS - I also want to stress that I love the films as a whole. While TTT is not a fav of mine it is still very watchable much like I believe DOS will continue to be. For me, It is just not up to the standards of the other films.