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The Tax Benefits of Home Ownership
by Celeste Marchand
Everyone knows that owning a home is the American dream, but did you know that borrowing to pay for one is a taxpayer's dream? Home mortgage interest is deductible on your income taxes if you itemize. You can deduct the interest on up to one million dollars of home mortgage debt, whether it is used to purchase a first or a second home. You can also deduct the interest on up to $100,000 of home equity debt, even if you don't use the money for home improvements. Real estate taxes are deductible as well. With the availability of these tax deductions, you should consider whether borrowing on a home is right for you.

What could the home mortgage deduction mean to you? What follows are some examples of the potential tax savings for several scenarios.

Example 1

Bob rents a home at a cost of $1,200.00 per month. He is single with no children and takes the standard deduction on his income taxes. His adjusted gross income is $128,000. He has $3,500 in state income tax withheld from his paychecks throughout the year, but doesn't qualify for any other itemized deductions. Bob's federal income tax liability for 2008 will look something like this:

Adjusted gross income $128,000

less standard deduction, Single $4,400

less personal exemption $2,800

Taxable income $120,800

Bob's 2008 federal income tax $32,129

However, if Bob purchases a home with a monthly mortgage payment of $1,200, his tax liability is lowered. At the end of the year Bob will receive a form 1098 from his mortgage company that shows how much of his mortgage payments for the year went to mortgage interest. Bob's 1098 for the year 2008 shows that he paid $11,400 in mortgage interest. Bob also paid $1,500 in real estate taxes on his home in 2008. Bob's federal income tax liability for 2008 will look something like this:

Adjusted gross income $128,000

less itemized deduction for state income taxes $3,500

less itemized deduction for real estate taxes $1,500

less itemized deduction for mortgage interest $11,400

less personal exemption $2,800

Taxable income $108,800

Bob's 2008 federal income tax $28,409

In this example Bob saves $3,720 in federal income taxes. In addition, his monthly housing cost stays the same and he owns his home, rather than renting. Good deal, Bob!

Example 2

Suppose there is another guy named Bob who is married and has two kids ages 16 and 19. This Bob has owned his home for a number of years. In fact, he has paid down his mortgage so much that his Form 1098 shows only $3,000 in mortgage interest paid in the year 2008. Bob's wife earns no income and they file their taxes married filing jointly. Bob's federal income tax liability for 2008 will look something like this:

Adjusted gross income $128,000

less itemized deduction for state income taxes $3,500

less itemized deduction for real estate taxes $1,500

less itemized deduction for mortgage interest $3,000

less personal exemptions for Bob, wife, and 2 kids $11,200

Taxable income $108,800

Bob's 2008 federal income tax $24,849

Bob is still itemizing because his deductions exceed the standard deduction, but just barely. The standard deduction for married filing jointly is $7,350 and the total of Bob's itemized deductions are $8,000. This saves Bob about $200 on his federal income tax in 2008.

Suppose that Bob and his wife decided to fix up their home a little bit in 2008. They also want to buy a new car, take a family vacation, and pay for their oldest child's college tuition. They've been saving for years and they could take $100,000 out of a mutual fund to pay for it all. But the mutual fund is earning an average of 10% interest a year so they decide to get a home equity loan for $100,000 at an interest rate of 8% instead. They are already ahead by borrowing for less than their money is earning, but look at what the $100,000 home equity loan does to their tax bill. Bob receives a Form 1098 that shows he paid $7,800 in interest on his home equity loan. Bob's federal income tax liability for 2008 will look something like this:

Adjusted gross income $128,000

less itemized deduction for state income taxes $3,500

less itemized deduction for real estate taxes $1,500

less itemized deduction for mortgage interest $3,000

less itemized deduction for home equity interest $7,800

less personal exemptions for Bob, wife, and 2 kids $11,200

Taxable income $101,000

Bob's 2008 federal income tax $22,580

Bob saves $2,269 on his federal income taxes by taking out a home equity loan!

Example 3

Suppose there is a third Bob out there. This Bob is single with no children and is paying the mortgage on the home he purchased a few years ago. Bob has been saving up and this year he fulfills his dream of purchasing a vacation home. It's not much, just a cabin in the woods, but it has a bedroom, bath, and kitchen. Here is what Bob's second home does to his tax liability for 2008:

Adjusted gross income $128,000

Less itemized deduction for state income taxes $3,500

Less itemized deduction for real estate taxes on 1st home $1,500

Less itemized deduction for mortgage interest on 1st home $7,800

Less itemized deduction for real estate taxes on 2nd home $1,100

Less itemized deduction for mortgage interest on 2nd home $10,200

Less personal exemption for Bob $2,800

Taxable income $101,100

Bob's 2008 federal income tax $26,022

The $1,100 Bob pays for real estate taxes on his 2nd home and the $10,200 he pays for mortgage interest on his 2nd home save Bob approximately $3,500 on his federal income taxes in 2008. Bob is so slick, fulfilling his dream of owning a 2nd home and saving money on his taxes!
 
Gibby I definitely think the worst was just the feeling of being completely lost. Stuff was happening completely out of my control, and everybody just kept saying...welcome to home ownership...the same bastards that would use the phrase the Joys of Home Ownership! I know it's supposed to have some financial benefits but what little I understand of the real estate market now, i think the benefits are a bit less but I do have a roof over my head that I am able to still pay for. So it shouldn't be that bad....right?:gah:
 
Gibby I definitely think the worst was just the feeling of being completely lost. Stuff was happening completely out of my control, and everybody just kept saying...welcome to home ownership...the same bastards that would use the phrase the Joys of Home Ownership! I know it's supposed to have some financial benefits but what little I understand of the real estate market now, i think the benefits are a bit less but I do have a roof over my head that I am able to still pay for. So it shouldn't be that bad....right?:gah:

You would hope not.

Hopefully by the time you've fixed everything under warranty, you'll love your house and never want to leave. :pray::)

Or you could just end up torching it all in a fit of rage. :lol:monkey2
 
I've had my home now for over 2 years. I spent about 9 months looking and my main objective was finding a house that had been completely updated - new roof, windows, plumbing, water heater, etc....

I know NOTHING about repairs and needed to know I was getting a home that was practically new. It's a home built in the 50's but 1 1/2 years before I bought it, the owners remodeled everything...basically just kept the bones of the house and the original hard wood floors. Everything else is new and I had a good home inspector that checked EVERYTHING.

So far I have been fortunate and have had no problems....but I do put away money every month for that rainy day when something does go wrong.

Aside from my utilities being a couple hundred more than they were when I was renting...I'm only paying $300 more per month for my mortgage. I figure if I ever sell this place, I should see most of that money back...where as if I was still renting it would be going down the drain.

I do enjoy owning a home...though it can be stressful and is definitely more work for me than when I rented. But I take pride in my home and doing yardwork or painting gives me a sense of accomplishment that I never could get with renting.
 
The best thing you can do if you own a house is to learn a lot of do it yourself stuff. Try to fix as much as you can yourself because you can go broke hiring it done. I have an older home and when you're not handy, it can add up!

As for brand new homes. Just remember, they don't make them like they used to. Just like with everything else, they do just enough to get by. I agree with Collector NC about getting a home inspector.
 
I do enjoy owning a home...though it can be stressful and is definitely more work for me than when I rented. But I take pride in my home and doing yardwork or painting gives me a sense of accomplishment that I never could get with renting.

:exactly::exactly::clap
 
The best thing you can do if you own a house is to learn a lot of do it yourself stuff. Try to fix as much as you can yourself because you can go broke hiring it done. I have an older home and when you're not handy, it can add up!

As for brand new homes. Just remember, they don't make them like they used to. Just like with everything else, they do just enough to get by. I agree with Collector NC about getting a home inspector.

Yeah, don't ever have someone do interior painting unless you have such tall ceilings and walls you can't reach them without a huge ladder. Most rooms you save yourself 1200--1800 if you do it yourself.
 
I like to think that I'd be handy too if push comes to shove, and painting and stuff like that is easy. I do agree that I now don't feel like i am throwing money away. It's slowly but surely settling in that things happen with homes and eventually I'll get to the point of it'll get done when it gets done.

Thanks for all the positive reinforcements, maybe in the next 15 years I'll necropost that I finally feel the joy of home ownership:wink1:

The funny thing was we had a great inspector over twice (the second was to check to make sure issues were addressed before closing) and a structural engineer go through, but neither of them could have spotted the tiny hairline crack in the stack pipe that started on the third floor and went all the way to the basement. I should be laughing about these things in about a year or two when the wounds have healed:rotfl

I've had my home now for over 2 years.

I know NOTHING about repairs and needed to know I was getting a home that was practically new. It's a home built in the 50's but 1 1/2 years before I bought it, the owners remodeled everything...basically just kept the bones of the house and the original hard wood floors. Everything else is new and I had a good home inspector that checked EVERYTHING.

So far I have been fortunate and have had no problems....but I do put away money every month for that rainy day when something does go wrong.

Aside from my utilities being a couple hundred more than they were when I was renting...I'm only paying $300 more per month for my mortgage. I figure if I ever sell this place, I should see most of that money back...where as if I was still renting it would be going down the drain.

I do enjoy owning a home...though it can be stressful and is definitely more work for me than when I rented. But I take pride in my home and doing yardwork or painting gives me a sense of accomplishment that I never could get with renting.
 
Yeah from start to finish this house was up and at 'em in four months.

As for brand new homes. Just remember, they don't make them like they used to. Just like with everything else, they do just enough to get by. I agree with Collector NC about getting a home inspector.
 
I love having a lawn. The house is on a quarter acre lot and most of it is in the back. After the lawn is ten acres of old cow pastures and woods.

When I have fires in the summer, after several beers, it's nice to walk out there and stand by the edge, smoking cigarettes and listening to the field roar. The firepit is in the pool yard, so there's some distance between the two spots. One is hot and bright, the other is cool and dark. Without the lawn, they'd mix together. I like having both separately.
 
That is great, Darth Snoopy!!! Congrats!!!

Thanks, Gibby! :D

I'm very lucky and happy to be where I am now in point in my life. :)

The best thing you can do if you own a house is to learn a lot of do it yourself stuff. Try to fix as much as you can yourself because you can go broke hiring it done. I have an older home and when you're not handy, it can add up!

As for brand new homes. Just remember, they don't make them like they used to. Just like with everything else, they do just enough to get by. I agree with Collector NC about getting a home inspector.

:lecture :lecture :lecture

That's the best advice anyone can get!
 
I grew up on a farm in jamaica, one of the chores was cutting the grass with one of those manual push mowers and the longer blades we used a machete to cut so we fed the rabbits with that. I REALLY hate cutting grass because of that.:panic: So concrete is perfect.

I love having a lawn. The house is on a quarter acre lot and most of it is in the back. After the lawn is ten acres of old cow pastures and woods.

When I have fires in the summer, after several beers, it's nice to walk out there and stand by the edge, smoking cigarettes and listening to the field roar. The firepit is in the pool yard, so there's some distance between the two spots. One is hot and bright, the other is cool and dark. Without the lawn, they'd mix together. I like having both separately.
 
Good thread!

Lifelong renter, first-time home buyer here. Been in the house for only 3 months and a day hasn't gone by that my fiancee and I haven't found something with the house that needs to be fixed. Thank god he's a handyman. It's a good home, was just neglected as the previous homeowner got older (we bought the home from a 79-year-old who had been in the house since 1986), and now it's at the point where it needs TLC and updates -- and we are the ones stuck with the repairs.

Let's see:

our stove caught fire (appliances are original to the home!)
we've put in new storm doors
we've replaced all the windows
we had to insulate and properly seal the attic
we discovered that PVC pipe for the washer wasn't connected and water was pouring all over the ground in the crawl space.
air conditioning unit needed maintenance
Yard needs work
Heating unit on the dryer just went out
gutters were cracked and underground PVC pipe to drain the water away from the home was broken and clogged with tree roots -- all replaced
We are finding PVC underground all over the front yard -- People in the South love their PVC. :lol

We need new appliances, new carpeting, new linoleum, and updates to both bathrooms and the kitchen. I can go on...

The little things, that you don't have to worry about as a renter, really add up when you own house. I'm not really complaining; it's just a major reality check that you have to discover on your own. Nobody tells you these things ahead of time.
 
That was my gripe too, nobody tells you this when you say you are buying a house, they always congratulate you:wink1: oh and Congratulations on your new home

Good thread!

Lifelong renter, first-time home buyer here. Been in the house for only 3 months and a day hasn't gone by that my fiancee and I haven't found something with the house that needs to be fixed. Thank god he's a handyman. It's a good home, was just neglected as the previous homeowner got older (we bought the home from a 79-year-old who had been in the house since 1986), and now it's at the point where it needs TLC and updates -- and we are the ones stuck with the repairs.

Let's see:

our stove caught fire (appliances are original to the home!)
we've put in new storm doors
we've replaced all the windows
we had to insulate and properly seal the attic
we discovered that PVC pipe for the washer wasn't connected and water was pouring all over the ground in the crawl space.
air conditioning unit needed maintenance
Yard needs work
Heating unit on the dryer just went out
gutters were cracked and underground PVC pipe to drain the water away from the home was broken and clogged with tree roots -- all replaced
We are finding PVC underground all over the front yard -- People in the South love their PVC. :lol

We need new appliances, new carpeting, new linoleum, and updates to both bathrooms and the kitchen. I can go on...

The little things, that you don't have to worry about as a renter, really add up when you own house. I'm not really complaining; it's just a major reality check that you have to discover on your own. Nobody tells you these things ahead of time.
 
oh and Congratulations on your new home
:lol

I don't think I mentioned that we've only been in our (first) house for less than a year, so I'm also pretty new to it. We had to buy a new fridge, washer and dryer when we moved in, and the previous owners had just installed a new A/C unit before we moved in. So, we're pretty straight with that stuff for now, requiring minimal upkeep (though the compressor on our new fridge went out a couple months ago, requiring a new one. . .). My main forthcoming concern is the roof. It is pretty old and the inspector told us it will probably have to be replaced in a few years. Not looking forward to that expense. Our house is also a relatively ugly color combination of pink siding with dark green trim that I would like to change. Just yesterday we met with someone about removing wallpaper in the hall bathroom and repainting the living room. . .there's always something, to be sure :lol
 
Yeah the roof thing is a daunting expense for most. but it's necessity. the mold our basement was a hassle and a stink to get rid of, and after month of suffering through leaks, it's one of the most annoying things to go through, you hear thunder and you panic. Good Luck

:lol

My main forthcoming concern is the roof. It is pretty old and the inspector told us it will probably have to be replaced in a few years. Not looking forward to that expense. Our house is also a relatively ugly color combination of pink siding with dark green trim that I would like to change. Just yesterday we met with someone about removing wallpaper in the hall bathroom and repainting the living room. . .there's always something, to be sure :lol
 
it's been mentioned before but learning to fix things yourself or remodeling yourself saves you tons of money. years ago i used to be intimidated by just changing out a ceiling fan which seems silly now but then not so much. being driven to save money (another way to say im a cheap bastard) instead of hiring out i learned to do a bunch of things myself. fortunately i had the benefit of a brother in law & friends that knew a lot & showed me how to do a number of things. but i've also attended a lot of "how to" seminars at stores such as lowes & home depot's that are beneficial and are free. some area vocational schools offer courses & seminars as well. my brother in law & i were talking and he had estimated with all the renovations i had done with an investent of about $4,500 that i had saved myself close to $18,000-$20,000 had i hired all this done...........which included a complete new kitchen, a new roof (shingled), a screened in back porch, completely tiled house,(minus 2 bedrooms), french doors, all new interior doors, inside paint, and various little odds and ends. i guess my point of all this is to not be afraid to get your hands dirty to save money & the satisfaction of knowing that you did it yourself is a value too.................:peace
 
Thanks for the followup post VASith. Thats a lot to absorb, but defintately helpful. Next tax filing I need to look at whether to do the standard or not. Usually don't have to many items.
 
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