Media The Last of Us Part II

[FSLAR]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

How did they find a tatoo maker and machine in the apocalypse?

 

[Snake Plissken]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Well they do it in Prison with next to nothing. Besides, I'm sure people weren't ransacking tattoo shops. I bet there was a market for it since there were a bunch of shops in the slums in Boston.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Lol are we still on about this femenist stuff?

 

[ironwez20]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Ok I no I'm probably gonna sound weird. Matter fact I know this is gonna come off weird but Ellie's chest really went down . Not that I was looking but I just noticed her design then and now. Idk maybe it's the baggy clothes.

Aw hell forget it.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Ok I no I'm probably gonna sound weird. Matter fact I know this is gonna come off weird but Ellie's chest really went down . Not that I was looking but I just noticed her design then and now. Idk maybe it's the baggy clothes.

Aw hell forget it.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Damn. Well I guess I better have a seat

 

[Snake Plissken]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Damn. Well I guess I better have a seat

I have the transcripts.

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Lol are we still on about this femenist stuff?

Yes we are, and we'll apparently continue, you're free to ignore it.

I would if the creator of the game doesn't make it a point to bring it up every chance he gets. I simply made a comment about two fears I had with the game, first bringing back Ellie and Joel, and the second that I hope Druckman doesn't overdo it with his feminist agenda. Why that causes such an uproar I don't know.

And someone actually used the word threadcrapping seriously?

I don't know why people can't have healthy debates anymore. I've repeatedly said TLOU is one of the greatest games ever but point to some concerns about the sequel and people start reporting

I wonder how long before someone starts to shut down these types of debates on the grounds of "politics". I know we aren't discussing politics themselves rather the way they affect, in this case, games when politics are injected. But you just know someone will attempt this any time now.

There are some people who want to keep these boards the most trivial possible.

They could just ignore the conversations they don't want to take part in, but the problem is always other people, sounds familiar?

I like this new design, could do without the tattoo, but other than that, I like it.

About the tattoo, you can make tattoos with any pointy thing and pen ink so don't have a problem with that.

Na-ah, she legal now.

But I can't look at her like that ;_; she our babygurl, all grown up.

 

[franpincho]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

I wonder how many predators Hansen caught collect HT.

Even better, how many of those post here. LOL. When's his (now funded) show air again? I miss that guy.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Yes we are, and we'll apparently continue, you're free to ignore it.


I wonder how long before someone starts to shut down these types of debates on the grounds of "politics". I know we aren't discussing politics themselves rather the way they affect, in this case, games when politics are injected. But you just know someone will attempt this any time now.

There are some people who want to keep these boards the most trivial possible.

They could just ignore the conversations they don't want to take part in, but the problem is always other people, sounds familiar?



I like this new design, could do without the tattoo, but other than that, I like it.

About the tattoo, you can make tattoos with any pointy thing and pen ink so don't have a problem with that.


Na-ah, she legal now.

But I can't look at her like that ;_; she our babygurl, all grown up.

O yea I'm gonna ignore it. I don't care. I'm just surprised it's still going on. But by all means continue.

 

[Caped Baldy]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

I wonder how many predators Hansen caught collect HT.

Even better, how many of those post here. LOL. When's his (now funded) show air again? I miss that guy.

New show's called Hansen vs Predator. Go on 'Crime Watch Daily' YouTube channel and it gets put up irregularly. I think there's about 8 episodes or so currently, and the full versions have been uploaded on other channels to watch as well.

One guy offered Chris a slice of pizza while he was being questioned.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

https://i.imgur.com/SOctZis.gif

Nah, he's the same age as her.

 

[Spanbauer]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Nobody is made nervous by that, and youre still not getting the point.

Right here:

...finding out he’s an uber feminist that did indeed have agenda makes me nervous for the sequel.

Which, as I previously outlined, based on Druckman's own comments, the extent of his "agenda" amounted to 1.) writing characters to be honest & true to themselves, and 2.) leaving behind a character for his daughter who is worthy of being a role model. Why would that make a person nervous?

So I guess you’re going to ignore when he said he was inspired by Fem Frequency when creating the game? That would indeed make him an uber feminist. Did you not hear his interpretation of the ending of the game? Every time this guy does an interview he brings up sexism in games, that seems to be all thats on his mind. To me, that makes him just as much as Feminist as Joss Whedon.

Do you really not see and have no idea what the difference is between our point and the one youre trying to peddle? Because your discussing something were not against, like youre discussing with imaginary people.

I believe as Druckman put it, while you may not agree with much or all of what (Fem Frequency) has to say, one cannot ignore the trend in games for female characters, historically, that they have brought attention toward. So Druckman made a conscious effort to avoid those tropes.

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As I understand it, you guys are "fine" with female characters in games so long as they are written well. Setting aside the sexist double-standard inherit in that statement for a moment...

It would appear to me that the best solution to what ails female characters in games would be to make a conscious effort to write those characters as believable and true to themselves, and also injecting them with characteristics that leave one admiring or impressed by that character; perhaps even someone one may inspire to be. Which is exactly what Druckman's intent has been and presumably continues to be.

However, you've then gone on to sabotaging your own argument by labeling any kind of publically-admitted, conscious, considerate & self-aware attempts at writing female characters as an unwanted feminist agenda/social justice warrior pandering that must therefore be scrutinized heavily or dismissed entirely.

So if my argument seems cyclical, it's because it appears to me that you guys are trying to have it both ways: you'd prefer female protagonists be avoided as you feel they're more often than not poorly written, but at the same time you take issue with any writer or game/film which makes a conscious, public effort to create strong, believable female characters.

You're simultaneously showing awareness of the disease while also refusing to swallow the cure because that would be a public acknowledgement of said disease.

 

[GasparZizou]

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Right here:

Right, he's nervous a game he likes could suck, he's not nervous because guuuurls

Which, as I previously outlined, based on Druckman's own comments, the extent of his "agenda" amounted to 1.) writing characters to be honest & true to themselves, and 2.) leaving behind a character for his daughter who is worthy of being a role model. Why would that make a person nervous?

Seriously, why do you purposeful dodge the real point? You know good and well we're not arguing against that.

I believe as Druckman put it, while you may not agree with much or all of what (Fem Frequency) has to say, one cannot ignore the trend in games for female characters, historically, that they have brought attention toward. So Druckman made a conscious effort to avoid those tropes.

Yeah sure, that sounds good, in theory.

As I understand it, you guys are "fine" with female characters in games so long as they are written well. Setting aside the sexist double-standard inherit in that statement for a moment...

We are fine with characters in general that are well written, we're only against characters that push a ******** agenda, there's no double standard there, you know where there IS not only a double standard by a straight oxymoron? In this:

>it's ok if a character sucks if it's female

It would appear to me that the best solution to what ails female characters in games would be to make a conscious effort to write those characters as believable and true to themselves, and also injecting them with characteristics that leave one admiring or impressed by that character; perhaps even someone one may inspire to be. Which is exactly what Druckman's intent has been and presumably continues to be.

Sure, you keep talking about the ideal scenario, not about reality, though.

However, you've then gone on to sabotaging your own argument by labeling any kind of publically-admitted, conscious, considerate & self-aware attempts at writing female characters as an unwanted feminist agenda/social justice warrior pandering that must therefore be scrutinized heavily or dismissed entirely.

I didn't sabotage my own argument, my own argument is perfectly solid and applies to reality, unlike yours, you actually think "writing characters that are true to themselves" actually means that, instead of "I want to write flawless Mary Sues because gurl power".

And have you even seen what the Rogue One writers said?

So if my argument seems cyclical, it's because it appears to me that you guys are trying to have it both ways: you'd prefer female protagonists be avoided as you feel they're more often than not poorly written, but at the same time you take issue with any writer or game/film which makes a conscious, public effort to create strong, believable female characters.

Your argument isn't cynical, it's naive and deluded.

We prefer female characters to be avoided? Why don't you quote yourself and reply to yourself? It's clear that you shut yourself in a nice snug echo chamber.

Nobody objects a female character, how many times have I said female characters =/= feminist """characters"""? But you can't argue against that, you think feminist character = well written, true to themselves characters, on which case you are far removed from the truth.

You're simultaneously showing awareness of the disease while also refusing to swallow the cure because that would be a public acknowledgement of said disease.

If your disease is lack of female characters, if your disease is a number, then sure, pumping characters, terrible as they are, is surely a fix, and it will be ok the industry's creativity and artistry plummets because you want to fill a quota and you think it'll help women's role in society to have more ****** female characters, and you have a number of apologies for justify this, they're "new", they're less, it's ok to have lower standards for female characters, etc etc.

That'll sure help your cause, I don't know why I'm even worrying about it, you guys will be your own doom

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Why so triggered?

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

You should be asking the nuMale who reported the thread

I wonder how he felt when a Shropt came and said everything was in order

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Right, he's nervous a game he likes could suck, he's not nervous because guuuurls


Seriously, why do you purposeful dodge the real point? You know good and well we're not arguing against that.


Yeah sure, that sounds good, in theory.


We are fine with characters in general that are well written, we're only against characters that push a ******** agenda, there's no double standard there, you know where there IS not only a double standard by a straight oxymoron? In this:

>it's ok if a character sucks if it's female


Sure, you keep talking about the ideal scenario, not about reality, though.


I didn't sabotage my own argument, my own argument is perfectly solid and applies to reality, unlike yours, you actually think "writing characters that are true to themselves" actually means that, instead of "I want to write flawless Mary Sues because gurl power".

And have you even seen what the Rogue One writers said?


Your argument isn't cynical, it's naive and deluded.

We prefer female characters to be avoided? Why don't you quote yourself and reply to yourself? It's clear that you shut yourself in a nice snug echo chamber.

Nobody objects a female character, how many times have I said female characters =/= feminist """characters"""? But you can't argue against that, you think feminist character = well written, true to themselves characters, on which case you are far removed from the truth.


If your disease is lack of female characters, if your disease is a number, then sure, pumping characters, terrible as they are, is surely a fix, and it will be ok the industry's creativity and artistry plummets because you want to fill a quota and you think it'll help women's role in society to have more ****** female characters, and you have a number of apologies for justify this, they're "new", they're less, it's ok to have lower standards for female characters, etc etc.

That'll sure help your cause, I don't know why I'm even worrying about it, you guys will be your own doom

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

Why so triggered?

cuz there's girls in my video games that look like boys!

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: The Last of Us Part II (Confirmed, trailer posted)

|today I saw a ciscum manspreading in the subway, so I stepped on his foot and he changed spots #smallvictories
||oh my god
||| I will never not reblog this

>420
>smoke wee errday

cuz there's girls in my video games that look like boys!

I'm sorry I offended you.

pls no report pls

 

[ZaCHw117]

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you forgot

hey, hey, hey:

Spoiler

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