The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[chrisstbh]

OT elitists really hate any PT references huh.

Also, I don't think it's out of character for Boba to help Din rescue Grogu. Boba has been a son separated from his father, so he knows what that's like on a personal level.

 

[darth dennis]

OT elitists really hate any PT references huh.

Also, I don't think it's out of character for Boba to help Din rescue Grogu. Boba has been a son separated from his father, so he knows what that's like on a personal level.

I dig the homage to the PT character Jango within the context of bringing back the OT Boba. I guess I'm ok with anything that brings live action Fett back for me after all these years. I knew they were going to play it one of two ways: 1) This one, where he teams up with Mando in some meaningful way; 2) Where he works for Gideon and pursues the child as Mando's adversary. I much prefer the way they played this out as it doesn't require Mando or Boba to defeat the other. I like the fact that Fett has developed (or always had) a code and he's honoring that code by helping Mando until the child is safe. I loved the mysterious OT version of Fett, the man of few words and what seems to be no code other than to get his reward. That's been cool for the past 40 years. Just like I've grown in 40 years, so has Fett and I'm 100% on-board for this "Mandalorians Assemble" team-up... slow motion walk, one knee landing and all!

 

[hellgrammite00]

I dig the homage to the PT character Jango within the context of bringing back the OT Boba. I guess I'm ok with anything that brings live action Fett back for me after all these years. I knew they were going to play it one of two ways: 1) This one, where he teams up with Mando in some meaningful way; 2) Where he works for Gideon and pursues the child as Mando's adversary. I much prefer the way they played this out as it doesn't require Mando or Boba to defeat the other. I like the fact that Fett has developed (or always had) a code and he's honoring that code by helping Mando until the child is safe. I loved the mysterious OT version of Fett, the man of few words and what seems to be no code other than to get his reward. That's been cool for the past 40 years. Just like I've grown in 40 years, so has Fett and I'm 100% on-board for this "Mandalorians Assemble" team-up... slow motion walk, one knee landing and all!

I am not a big PT fan, but little nods to it are just fine to me. U just don't need the eventually Jar Jar/Mando teamup episode.

As I noted earlier, having Mando hire the services of Boba would have been a story line to me.

 

[ZE_501]

That 1000 years of digestion seems ridiculous for me, not the digestion part, but being alive for this 1000 years. Average human dies in 3 days without water, and can stand hunger for about a month. So what does Sarlac do to keep its victims alive? Does it feed them with water and food and keep their body free of disease and aging? It can prevent the body from decaying and continue to digest it slowly over 1000 years, but keeping the victim alive?

From what I've read, the creature literally integrates sentient organisms into its own body, so 'digestion' is a bit inaccurate. Once enough human biology has been supplanted by alien tissue, they're not human anymore and as connected to the monster as a mammalian fetus is to its mother.

Super gross.

 

[ZE_501]

OT elitists really hate any PT references huh.

[...]

I think I'm an OT Elitist, but I don't mind seeing PT elements done well. The Super Battle Droids in the flashback are what I always envisioned -- frightening soulless killing machines. It doesn't make those films better for me, but as a story element it works.

 

[The Buffinator]

I am not a big PT fan, but little nods to it are just fine to me. U just don't need the eventually Jar Jar/Mando teamup episode.

As I noted earlier, having Mando hire the services of Boba would have been a story line to me.

I agree, just as I think (as stated previously) that any tie-ins to the ST should be subtle and/or left to the viewer's own interpretation - e.g., the brief "Snokes in jars" scene. Now if the show runs for 10 years and covers an equal time progression within the show they may have to eventually address it, but in the meantime I'd prefer they cover new live action material. And yes, I purposely used the modifier live action to allow for the introduction of TCW, Rebels & EU characters and story lines - to the extent that they don't contradict established canon.

 

[hellgrammite00]

I agree, just as I think (as stated previously) that any tie-ins to the ST should be subtle and/or left to the viewer's own interpretation - e.g., the brief "Snokes in jars" scene. Now if the show runs for 10 years and covers an equal time progression within the show they may have to eventually address it, but in the meantime I'd prefer they cover new live action material. And yes, I purposely used the modifier live action to allow for the introduction of TCW, Rebels & EU characters and story lines - to the extent that they don't contradict established canon.

In my mind, the New trilogy is not cannon. Yes, I know technically it is, but not thinking about those movies is fine for me. Mandalorian will continue to work for me as you note if it only makes subtle hints to it only.

Prequels had a lot of good stuff in it. It led to a lot of good animated material as well. Sure the acting and writing and direction were generally subpar, but there was a ton of good world building. If handled carefully, I think sprinkling that into the Mandalorian is a welcome sight. Having his family wiped out by battle droids for example.

 

[Sassafras]

Anyone hoping for a non-happy ending for season 2? Not so much on a cliffhanger but one that leaves the characters broken and in a bad place.

No. I don't. For one thing it's too imitative of the end of other stuff - like open ended IW....wait a year for resolution.

I think Season 1 ended at a good point. I'd like to see Season 2 end something like that - maybe with the ominous threat of Bo-katan finally initiating her bid to retrieve the Darksaber; Child retrieved, but Mando and kid are gonna get swept into the bigger picture conflict.

Tho I wouldn't be surprised if there's some *&&^% ending that's supposed to cause fan angst for a year. We have enough angst right now, so I hope not. I'd rather be looking forward to seeing legions of Mandalorians are coming to take back what's theirs.

Just like I've grown in 40 years, so has Fett and I'm 100% on-board for this "Mandalorians Assemble" team-up... slow motion walk, one knee landing and all!

Bring it on. The smouldery unblinking stare (Cara is really good at the smoulder); the ominous tread of the "you're already dead you just don't know it yet" stalk, the artistic flow of cape; the sparking of light off the edge of the Beskar spear tip - gotta have it. Otherwise ur just an amateur who should've stayed in film school. Bonus points for roiling flames in the background

 

[hellgrammite00]

No. I don't. For one thing it's too imitative of the end of other stuff - like open ended IW....wait a year for resolution.

I think Season 1 ended at a good point. I'd like to see Season 2 end something like that - maybe with the ominous threat of Bo-katan finally initiating her bid to retrieve the Darksaber; Child retrieved, but Mando and kid are gonna get swept into the bigger picture conflict.

Tho I wouldn't be surprised if there's some *&&^% ending that's supposed to cause fan angst for a year. We have enough angst right now, so I hope not. I'd rather be looking forward to seeing legions of Mandalorians are coming to take back what's theirs.

I would like the season to end with the heroes raiding the imperial cruiser, and putting it into meltown. Moff Gideon escaping with the child on a smaller ship, and Mando gets on it at the last second. The allies escape, but try to track down Mando.

Mando fights Gideon, but the battle causes the ship to crash on a planet. Moff Gideon, the child and Mando walk out of the wreckage, realizing they landed on a hostile world.

Just a thought, might make everybody happy to have the successful rescue, but strand the heroes with a villain on potentially very hostile world.

 

[Sassafras]

I would like the season to end with the heroes raiding the imperial cruiser, and putting it into meltown. Moff Gideon escaping with the child on a smaller ship, and Mando gets on it at the last second. The allies escape, but try to track down Mando.

Mando fights Gideon, but the battle causes the ship to crash on a planet. Moff Gideon, the child and Mando walk out of the wreckage, realizing they landed on a hostile world.

Just a thought, might make everybody happy to have the successful rescue, but strand the heroes with a villain on potentially very hostile world.

Like this. Could open the door to another species who doesn't have much use for either - tho don't mean Moff and Mando become buddies. More like a cat/mouse game to see who gets off dangerous planet first. Later Gideon being a *&&^% just razes planet because he's a sadist.

 

[hellgrammite00]

Like this. Could open the door to another species who doesn't have much use for either - tho don't mean Moff and Mando become buddies. More like a cat/mouse game to see who gets off dangerous planet first. Later Gideon being a *&&^% just razes planet because he's a sadist.

I think the Geonosian queen is still alive, maybe have her and insect droid minions vs Mando's and Moff? They hate everybody, but especially the empire.

 

[The Buffinator]

In my mind, the New trilogy is not cannon. Yes, I know technically it is, but not thinking about those movies is fine for me. Mandalorian will continue to work for me as you note if it only makes subtle hints to it only.

Prequels had a lot of good stuff in it. It led to a lot of good animated material as well. Sure the acting and writing and direction were generally subpar, but there was a ton of good world building. If handled carefully, I think sprinkling that into the Mandalorian is a welcome sight. Having his family wiped out by battle droids for example.

Yes, I agree there's nothing wrong with that but I'd rather they concentrate on new worlds/species in the Outer Rim where feasible. Sort of a "come for the fan service segues, stay for the new worlds, characters and adventures" approach.

 

[Asta]

From the other thread:

LOL "bathrobe armor version" but I really like the look.

Me too. It's ironic, because I'm currently watching the entire run of the original The Addams Family.

This episode was so good I keep dipping back into it. Feels really old school, yet throws more than a few spanners into the works.

First, Mando confirms that Boba's armour is Beskar, not Durasteel. The code has been in it for 25 years, which would be about 16 BBY (six years after Jango's death).

Second, it makes a liar out of Prime Minister Almec, who claimed Jango stole the armor and disavowed any connection between him and Mandalore.

However, this merely confirms the unreliability, or deliberate deceitfulness, of certain narrators. Obi-Wan became a good example of such after the reveal of Luke's father.


Lastly, it's a shocker every time I see the Razor Crest explode.

 

[hellgrammite00]

Yes, I agree there's nothing wrong with that but I'd rather they concentrate on new worlds/species in the Outer Rim where feasible. Sort of a "come for the fan service segues, stay for the new worlds, characters and adventures" approach.

I think your addressing the potential issue with this shows longevity....it isn't really introducing anything new. I mean right now its okay, but I can see my interest starting to waiver a little. I can see hardcore SW fans keep watching, because that is what they do, but viewership might decrease for the overall base. But the show needs to be sure to introduce enough new good stuff along with the nostalgia. Right now I am still enjoying the show.

Right now the show is running on two things:
-The characters quest where he keeps running into things we have already seen before, to bring in fun nostalgia, and creating 100 supporting characters.
-Each season keeps ending like an Avengers movie, where Mando has to assemble a team to save the day.

Now I am jumping a little ahead of that last point, but season 2 seems to be leading to an Avengers Assemble moment...again.

 

[The Buffinator]

I think your addressing the potential issue with this shows longevity....it isn't really introducing anything new. I mean right now its okay, but I can see my interest starting to waiver a little. I can see hardcore SW fans keep watching, because that is what they do, but viewership might decrease for the overall base.

Right now the show is running on two things:
-The characters quest where he keeps running into things we have already seen before, to bring in fun nostalgia, and creating 100 supporting characters.
-Each season keeps ending like an Avengers movie, where Mando has to assemble a team to save the day.

Now I am jumping a little ahead of that last point, but season 2 seems to be leading to an Avengers Assemble moment...again.

I don't think that will be the case (well, not for that reason). We may think they're incorporating old story lines, but if it wasn't in the previous movies it's still new to the non-hardcore fans. So characters like Ahsoka & Bo-Katan will still draw them in provided the performances and story lines are compelling.

 

[ZE_501]

I think your addressing the potential issue with this shows longevity....it isn't really introducing anything new. I mean right now its okay, but I can see my interest starting to waiver a little. I can see hardcore SW fans keep watching, because that is what they do, but viewership might decrease for the overall base.

Right now the show is running on two things:
-The characters quest where he keeps running into things we have already seen before, to bring in fun nostalgia.
-Each season keeps ending like an Avengers movie, where Mando has to assemble a team to save the day.

The show remains a very expensive cartoon, and I enjoy it quite a bit, even when it inevitably misses the mark here and there.

It ends when Grogu's arc ends; it was always going to be Lone Wolf and Cub so that central relationship and quest was all they planned for, and its success paves the way for spin-offs.

Episodes are short and Grogu doesn't age at a human rate, so they have some time, but the 5 or 6 seasons alluded to by the showrunners are probably the upper limit.

As far as endings, Din either dies in service of Grogu and a greater cause, or he settles down as father/protector to the little beast after getting him to wherever he needs to be. If there even is such a place.

We may end this with a reveal of Yoda's remote and hidden homeworld, which Din could maybe adopt as his own to watch over, or perhaps even leave behind with peace of mind. Elliot said goodbye to E.T., Billy said goodbye to Gizmo, Charlie said goodbye to Bumblebee ... Din could experience growth and heal from his past, leave the cult, take off the damn bucket, and say goodbye to Grogu knowing he's safe. Maybe visit him sometimes until his brief candle of a human life flickers and dies while Grogu's still a pre-teen.

(Okay that was dark.)

Until then, he has to eliminate the people with knowledge of him that want him for bad-guy stuff. So far that's some scientists and a handful of Remnant under Gideon but I don't see that stretching 3 or 4 more seasons, so maybe we do need Thrawn and a bigger picture.

Season 1: The Client, Season 2 and 3: Moff Gideon. Now Thrawn ... if that jumped-up Smurf is as dangerous as he was in the EU, that could go 2 or even 3 seasons but we need more than just an endless chase. Could tying all of this into Mandalore somehow be the way to go? The place has a connection to Din and a compelling story that could end satisfactorily.

For everyone that loves Grogu, they need to keep their distance from the total downer of the First Order arising and ruining the galaxy again.

 

[Sassafras]

Lastly, it's a shocker every time I see the Razor Crest explode.

I still feel sick over that. But the POSITIVE thing IMO is I think it's a reasonable thing for Gideon to do...the sadist. Heck, it's almost like an FU to Mando and it was irrelevant whether Mando was in the ship or not. Like Din D'jarin is this annoying gnat that's not even worth killing - what matters is the end goal, for Gideon.

That fits. If Gideon gave it any thought at all (doubtful), Din D'jarin was supposed to go cry in a corner. Which makes the prospect of Mando spitting him Beskar steel all the more fun. Plus Gideon would have been the one behind wiping out the covert on Navarro.

For everyone that loves Grogu, they need to keep their distance from the total downer of the First Order arising and ruining the galaxy again.

Nah. I'm gonna stay in my fluffy cloud spice haze where Grogu has been returned to his mysterious home planet, Mando takes off the d@mn helmet for good and hooks up with the pretty widow (but Grogu checks in through the Force); Cara takes the creed; Bo-katan takes back what's hers, Gideon is reduced to space particles that DON'T regenerate, 'coz Boba blows up the ship that has any and all Gideon genetic info and giant test tubes; Boba and Fennec head back to Tatooine, life is good. Maybe Palps cackles in the background but that's about it.

The ST is not relevant. And it's not, since anything Mandalorian or other (like Ahsoka) is never mentioned in the ST. Unless they are going to digitally add something to the ST anniversary edition. Like removing Jeans Guy.

 

[xipotec]

I dig the homage to the PT character Jango within the context of bringing back the OT Boba. I guess I'm ok with anything that brings live action Fett back for me after all these years. I knew they were going to play it one of two ways: 1) This one, where he teams up with Mando in some meaningful way; 2) Where he works for Gideon and pursues the child as Mando's adversary. I much prefer the way they played this out as it doesn't require Mando or Boba to defeat the other. I like the fact that Fett has developed (or always had) a code and he's honoring that code by helping Mando until the child is safe. I loved the mysterious OT version of Fett, the man of few words and what seems to be no code other than to get his reward. That's been cool for the past 40 years. Just like I've grown in 40 years, so has Fett and I'm 100% on-board for this "Mandalorians Assemble" team-up... slow motion walk, one knee landing and all!

Actually , I think we will get both. Helps Mando but then turns on him. We still have someone who has been helping Gideon from the inside.
The only way I can see a decent story for Boba is to have him be true to his core, that he works for whomever is currently benefitting him the most.

To make him a hero that sacrifices himself for anyone or anything , feels way to out of character for me.


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[ajp4mgs]

Actually , I think we will get both. Helps Mando but then turns on him. We still have someone who has been helping Gideon from the inside.
The only way I can see a decent story for Boba is to have him be true to his core, that he works for whomever is currently benefitting him the most.

To make him a hero that sacrifices himself for anyone or anything , feels way to out of character for me.


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Absolutely. Way out of character to say the least!

 

[a-dev]

Yeah - I mean look - I was tremendously excited to see the Slave One and it certainly was cool to be seeing Boba Fett - OT elitist here and I don't mind the fact that it's Temuera Morrison and that he referenced Jango Fett - but my jury is out on whether this is the correct characterization for him and whether it's consistent with what he was in the OT. I read Khev and Ajp's posts on the matter and they kinda confirmed that nagging feeling I had after the episode. Hopefully they'll do some flashback stuff with him at some point down the line that might clear up a few things.

What else? As Xipotec mentioned, the massacring of Stormtroopers is getting old and is really making them look useless. I know I know, the ewoks already did that...but still. I'm actually feeling sorry for them now. No matter what their number I assume they are always the underdog.

Another thing I thought was weird was the part where Boba makes the comment - as if in surprise - 'The Empire is back'. And Ming-na Wen's character is likewise surprised. I assume this is me being stupid but what'd I miss? They were just fighting Imperial Stormtroopers.

Anyway, those reservations aside I enjoyed the continued reinforcement of the bond between Mando and Grogu. Good stuff.