The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[Wor-Gar]

lets be honest ROTJ Fett is way worse than Mando Fett.

Yeah.

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[a-dev]

When he said that the empire was back it was in a sense of a military power, we knew in season 1 that the empire was just bankrupt warlords with a few bad conditions troopers.
Remenber that Bobba was in Tatooine, the main cast was also surprised in the end of season 1 with the military power that Gideon had.
We as audience knows that they have a light cruiser(similar to a Star Destroyer) but the characters dont have this information, Mando didnt even know that Gideon was alive in the beginning of season 2.
For them, the leftover of the empire was just a small facction with short military power, not something as powerfull as it was show to them in this episode mainly to Bobba.

Me and ajp had similar first reactions to this episode, lol.

I watched it a few more times though and actually found myself liking thicc Boba pretty quickly.

I assumed that Fett's shock at the "Empire" being back per se as opposed to some straggler Stormtroopers serving a random warlord was the site of the cruiser. He was out of the loop and getting up to speed on what Mando already knew. Mando saw the same cruiser with his super helmet vision a few scenes earlier and it didn't phase him at all.

This is the likely answer then. That particular magnitude of ship was not something he expected them to possess.

 

[Sassafras]

This is the likely answer then. That particular magnitude of ship was not something he expected them to possess.

And in New Republic airspace; pretty sure Fennec said something about that. Guess Boba would have been aware as anyone of the Empire supposedly gone. Tatooine. Stormtrooper heads on stakes. The Mechanic talked about the Empire falling.

 

[Khev]

You continue to be one of my favorite commentators in these threads. Thanks

Right on man, thanks to you as well!

I just finished watching it again.

Damn a lot changed for Fett in just 5 short years lol

Look i?m just being difficult because lets be honest ROTJ Fett is way worse than Mando Fett.

So technically an improvement since last we seen Fett in armor.

Yeah my first reaction very harsh to the point that I was getting ready to write off the whole show.

This was my follow-up though:

Okay I watched the Boba Fett scenes two more times.

To give credit where credit is due:

1. TM did a great job in his own right. Regardless of any PT connections or how I think OT Fett should have behaved TM's take on the character was still an interesting and entertaining one. I'm glad that he played Boba different than Jango and his "crazed" expressions when taking out the Stormies with the gaffi were fun without being over the top ridiculous like ROTS Palps fighting Mace. Or maybe they were over the top but TM pulled it off anyway.

2. I really liked that they "canonized" Jango's status as a Death Watch foundling and assumedly by extension Boba as well. It seemed that in the Clone Wars cartoon George was trying to move away from that and thereby strip the Fetts of the last bit of interesting lore that the character originated with. So kudos to Favreau for reinstating him as a true Mandalorian.

3. While I don't know that him dispatching the derpy Stormtroopers made him a badass it *did* make him scary, which I *loved.* And his entrance after donning the armor nicely retained his ROTJ tactic of jetpacking within arm's reach of his foe from behind. None of the other Mandalorians we've seen have done that so that was a really nice touch that I daresay even kind of redeemed his previously "foolhardy" move of landing within lightsaber range of Luke on the skiff. We can now more easily assume that he normally kicks ass after freaking someone out by appearing that close from out of the sky.

4. His gunslinger moves really weren't too over the top and while he was tossing and flipping Stormtroopers with some of his judo moves *he* at least wasn't jumping and flipping around. So they didn't commit the same sins as ROTS Palpatine and I would say that his moves were more in line with RO Vader (in other words not being totally out of bounds for an established OT character.) And launching the projectiles from his knee armor was awesome.

5. Watching grown Boba Fett in his original armor flying Slave I was...okay I'm not gonna lie utterly awesome, lol. I'm not sure how I feel about him taking orders from the chick ("Stop the Dark Troopers", "yes ma'am," "No let them go," "okay ma'am") but eh.

6. I may not think that Mando Fett fits perfectly with OT Fett but is it *worse* than the difference between ESB and ROTJ Fett? Hmmm. Maybe not. What I do think he fits well enough with is the Holiday Special Fett who I actually *do* consider to be canon. And HS Fett was pretty chatty and didn't sound like his live-action counterpart so maybe I can just chill out about needing his character to be consistent across all media. I love Alden's Han Solo even though I fully recognize that he isn't Harrison Ford. But I accept that movie because it's just a good movie and Alden did a great job and his Han Solo is still cool even if he might not match up perfectly with the character as I see him. Same with Glover's Lando.

Despite initially recoiling from this version of Fett I might settle into a "the jury is out until I see more" mindset like ajp.

7. I actually liked the Dark Troopers. Very 90's EU to me. Fun stuff and looking forward to seeing more.

8. Gideon sending two unarmed Stormtroopers into Grogu's cell for the sole purpose of letting them get their asses kicked until Grogu wore himself out was awesome and kind of hilarious, lol. Gideon continues to be a really fun bad guy.

 

[Khev]

After his adventures with Greef, Cara and Mythrol on Nevarro at that supposedly defunct Imperial base I would hope that Mando wasn't surprised lol...

Exactly but that was my point. Both Mando and Fett had eyes on the cruiser but they went out of their way to remind us that while this is nothing new for Mando it was obviously the first time Fett himself became aware of the Empire's prominence and resources in certain sectors.

 

[user 64404]

Yeah.

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AOTC Fett

AOTC Fett (I presume you are talking about Jango) should be in the top three, he mislead Anakin and Obi-wan, survived a fight with Obi-wan and kill a Jedi Master Coleman Trebor

 

[Otomofan]

No, he's talking about the dweeby little **** that giggles and goes "Ha ha...get him dad!"

 

[greygoose]

Yeah.

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AOTC Fett

Mando Fett tops anything that's come before IMO.

 

[chrisstbh]

No, he's talking about the dweeby little **** that giggles and goes "Ha ha...get him dad!"

Ah yes, the literal child, acting like a child.

 

[jye4ever]

Look enjoy Mando Fett all you want i?m certainly going to try but unless some really drastic character changes are given to Mando Fett he will never be as bad ass the original unedited ESB was it is that simple.

There was a certain nuance to original ESB Fett that remains very unique to him.

Now i?ll sit back and enjoy Fat Fett swinging away with his crazy eyes lol

He actually looked cool in some of his action scenes plus it was nice seeing S1 in a freaking tv show WITH AMAZING EFFECTS!

 

[xipotec]

I don't know if you noticed the wall of text on the way in, but there are several pages of Khev and ajp asserting otherwise.

I mean so did I (my screen name should be WallOfText) but I was just arguing in the opposite direction that I didn't see evidence for a remorseless badass killing machine, just a smart and kinda weasel-y hunter.

Apparently I'm more or less alone in the wilderness on that one.

No your not.

Fett worship is a strange thing. I am no fan, and the idea that he is anything more than they bounty hunters that ?spoke up? was crazy to me. I doubt he?s anything more than a tool for Vader there is no evidence that he was special to Vader in any way aside from being the one of 7 that caught Han.

I got he is well known, and probably a good bounty hunter. That?s it. The god like status he has garnered is weird to me.


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[xipotec]

I also thought it was an awkward line, but figured it was the big heavily armed cruiser that threw him. Still weird. Maybe he has Sarlacc Brain.

This. I think it?s a matter of seeing some stormtrooper garrisons is one thing, seeing a gigantic Star Destroyer is another.....

Even the outpost from the first episode was sparsely populated .

It?s still an odd thing to say consider the previous ten over blown minutes of wasting storm troopers.

What they need is an episode showing some storm troopers together as a group running their own gig as independents.


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[xipotec]

So here is the biggest thing I picked up.

If all Fett wanted was his armor back, why travel to awhole different planet to confront Din?

He likely would have had a much easier time of it back on Tatooine getting off Olyphant.

I mean, it?s not like that guy was any match for Din or Fett. Now you can SAY that?s lazy writing but I do not think F@F are bad writers, especially considering the past attention to details in the MCU and Rebels.

As I said before , Fett waited to confront Din on Thyton, it?s the only thing that makes sense.

He was the distraction that allowed the Dark Troopers the time to snatch the kid. Why else wait? The Stormies were just dressing to sell the idea that Fett was alliances with Din and against the Empire. Shand and Fett owe exactly ZERO to Din, he should be their enemy at this point. Din is once again,blind to the fact that Grogu is making him soft and susceptible to attack. My son thinks Din is really stupid and lost at this point. Which he likes as a character arc. Lone warrior makes bad choices when he has another to protect and worry about.


I think Gideon wants Din almost as badly as he wants Grogu. And the finale is going to be the team getting wiped out due to Fetts betrayal. Setting up a massive revenge story for Din , against Fett and Grogu as the prize.

Ashoka will join Din as her arc with be to regain the Darksaber.

Enter Thrawn and Ezra to set up the really huge battle.

I will now turn off my crystal ball.


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[darth dennis]

No your not.

Fett worship is a strange thing. I am no fan, and the idea that he is anything more than they bounty hunters that ?spoke up? was crazy to me. I doubt he?s anything more than a tool for Vader there is no evidence that he was special to Vader in any way aside from being the one of 7 that caught Han.

I got he is well known, and probably a good bounty hunter. That?s it. The god like status he has garnered is weird to me.


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This is an interesting perspective. As someone who's favorite character is Fett (by a long shot), I can only say that for me personally, it's a combination of being 11 when ESB came out and being struck by the mystery and visual aspects of Fett. The armor set him apart from the rest of the bad guys as it was neither all black or all white like the rest of the Empire. He was helmeted, which set him apart from the other Empire villians like Tarkin and he just seemed really cool to an 11 year old. The armor upgrade in ROTJ just took me deeper down the Fett fandom rabbit hole. I loved the burgundy contrasting gauntlets and the multi-colored jetpack. Was I disappointed in his demise? You bet, but I didn't view it as his incompetence, more Solo's continued gamblers luck. Flash forward 40 years and I can say that anytime I see anything Fett related, the visual aspects of the armor still suck me in. What I find most interesting is that if they had stuck with the original McQuarrie concept and made him all white, I doubt I would've given him a second thought. Too bad, it would've saved me a bunch of money!

 

[darth dennis]

So here is the biggest thing I picked up.

If all Fett wanted was his armor back, why travel to awhole different planet to confront Din?

He likely would have had a much easier time of it back on Tatooine getting off Olyphant.

I mean, it?s not like that guy was any match for Din or Fett. Now you can SAY that?s lazy writing but I do not think F@F are bad writers, especially considering the past attention to details in the MCU and Rebels.

As I said before , Fett waited to confront Din on Thyton, it?s the only thing that makes sense.

He was the distraction that allowed the Dark Troopers the time to snatch the kid. Why else wait? The Stormies were just dressing to sell the idea that Fett was alliances with Din and against the Empire. Shand and Fett owe exactly ZERO to Din, he should be their enemy at this point. Din is once again,blind to the fact that Grogu is making him soft and susceptible to attack. My son thinks Din is really stupid and lost at this point. Which he likes as a character arc. Lone warrior makes bad choices when he has another to protect and worry about.


I think Gideon wants Din almost as badly as he wants Grogu. And the finale is going to be the team getting wiped out due to Fetts betrayal. Setting up a massive revenge story for Din , against Fett and Grogu as the prize.

Ashoka will join Din as her arc with be to regain the Darksaber.

Enter Thrawn and Ezra to set up the really huge battle.

I will now turn off my crystal ball.


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You are on a roll, Xipo. I find the distraction theory interesting but ultimately hope it isn't true. I guess I'd like to see Fett grow since ESB and ROTJ into someone who does honor a code...similar to Mando. I know many want him returned to the ruthless bounty hunter they grew up with, but that story doesn't compel me as much as some redemption. Now, if he runs into Han Solo...that should be a different story altogether

 

[The Buffinator]

So here is the biggest thing I picked up.

If all Fett wanted was his armor back, why travel to awhole different planet to confront Din?

He likely would have had a much easier time of it back on Tatooine getting off Olyphant.

I mean, it?s not like that guy was any match for Din or Fett. Now you can SAY that?s lazy writing but I do not think F@F are bad writers, especially considering the past attention to details in the MCU and Rebels.

As I said before , Fett waited to confront Din on Thyton, it?s the only thing that makes sense.

He was the distraction that allowed the Dark Troopers the time to snatch the kid. Why else wait? The Stormies were just dressing to sell the idea that Fett was alliances with Din and against the Empire. Shand and Fett owe exactly ZERO to Din, he should be their enemy at this point. Din is once again,blind to the fact that Grogu is making him soft and susceptible to attack. My son thinks Din is really stupid and lost at this point. Which he likes as a character arc. Lone warrior makes bad choices when he has another to protect and worry about.


I think Gideon wants Din almost as badly as he wants Grogu. And the finale is going to be the team getting wiped out due to Fetts betrayal. Setting up a massive revenge story for Din , against Fett and Grogu as the prize.

Ashoka will join Din as her arc with be to regain the Darksaber.

Enter Thrawn and Ezra to set up the really huge battle.

I will now turn off my crystal ball.

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At first his waiting until Typhon did seem a little TOO convenient from a plot standpoint, but then again it could have simply been that he was waiting on Fennec Shand to heal up. He'd (presumably) been watching Mando in action, so he knew confronting him alone would be suicide. Plus I don't think it's been that long since Fennec was gut shot, and I'm guessing having half of your abdomen replaced takes slightly longer to recover from than having your hand replaced like Luke's in ESB.

GIven how many stormtroopers he killed it seems unlikely that Boba Fatt is in league with Moff Gideon (unless MG is a LOT more forgiving than Vader & Palpatine), but I could see his making a play for the beskar staff. That would give him enough raw material to repair/replace most of his armor.

 

[jye4ever]

He should start with a treadmill

 

[The Buffinator]

He should start with a treadmill

He'd probably need his treadmill to be beskar-reinforced...

 

[chrisstbh]

He should start with a treadmill

 

[chrisstbh]