The Night HE Came Home: Show Us Some MYERS!

[ShadowX81]

Your reasoning is getting stranger and stranger.

Showing kids dressed up and trick o treating... Check

Teenagers drinking and having sex while celebrating the holiday.. Check

Carving pumpkins and watching scary movies.....Check

Killer wearing a "Halloween mask" ....... Check

Teenager joking around wearing a sheet over his head with glasses to spook out his girlfriend as a ghost celebrating Halloween....Check

Of course you can re-write the movie to take out Halloween but you can re-write a lot of movies to change plots of a lot of things so what's your point?

Once again, most of those were extras or minor set dressing in the background (too minor, considering alot of people decorate to excess for the holiday)

Michael wearing the mask isnt a great one either, as most movie slashers wear a mask regardless of the day.

And what teenager in this movie was celebrating the holiday at all? Not a single one. They were drinking and having sex, but none of that in any way indicates Halloween.

And that was Michael under the sheet.

 

[Rzeznikk]

Someone is hating on Carpenter's Classic? What the ****?

 

[Dark Passenger]

I remember Shadow from another thread. He is impossible to argue with.

 

[ShadowX81]

Its hard to argue when the other person refuses aknowledge the other person's side as being legitimate.

As I recall, you entered this discussion by saying that me liking Halloween 4 more than the original automatically gave me zero credibility.

 

[joebizz34]

Once again, most of those were extras or minor set dressing in the background (too minor, considering alot of people decorate to excess for the holiday)

Michael wearing the mask isnt a great one either, as most movie slashers wear a mask regardless of the day.

And what teenager in this movie was celebrating the holiday at all? Not a single one. They were drinking and having sex, but none of that in any way indicates Halloween.

And that was Michael under the sheet.

Yes it was Michael under the sheet. I was just using the scene as an example of a ghost symbol representing the holiday and that from the girlfriends point of view, she thought it was her boyfriend fooling around because wait for it......it was Halloween night.

If they filmed the movie as "The Babysiter Murders" first and then went back and added the Halloween references last minute, I would agree with you. However by the time they filmed the script it was Halloween and they filmed it that way.

You are also forgeting that this was back in 1978. I don't know how old you are but back then people didn't decorate their houses up for Halloween like we see today. It wasn't like Christmas where you put lights up or a ton of moving animatronic skeletons out on your lawn. That stuff exists today but not back in 78. I grew up trick o treating in those times and if someone had a pumpkin out with a light in it, well that was celebrating Halloween. The film was a representation of that time and Carpenter went out of his way to give it a Halloween "October" atmosphere with fake leaves on the ground, filming with an orange tint in the day scenes to give it a fall look since it was in Cali. He even covered up palm trees in the background as best he could. So your argument is lame at best.

 

[joebizz34]

Its hard to argue when the other person refuses aknowledge the other person's side as being legitimate.

As I recall, you entered this discussion by saying that me liking Halloween 4 more than the original automatically gave me zero credibility.

I already stated that if you like Halloween 4 better that is your choice and I am fine with that. What started the debate was you stating the reasons why. I'm just expressing my opinions on why I disagree. If you can't take a harmless debate, then we can end this discussion now. I never said you had zero credibility. Those are your words, not mine.

 

[Dark Passenger]

Its hard to argue when the other person refuses aknowledge the other person's side as being legitimate.

As I recall, you entered this discussion by saying that me liking Halloween 4 more than the original automatically gave me zero credibility.

Well I just used emoticons. Nam was the one who said zero accountibility. I was there to kindly correct Nam yess and say that he meant credibility. Thank God for me.

 

[Rzeznikk]

Yes it was Michael under the sheet. I was just using the scene as an example of a ghost symbol representing the holiday and that from the girlfriends point of view, she thought it was her boyfriend fooling around because wait for it......it was Halloween night.

If they filmed the movie as "The Babysiter Murders" first and then went back and added the Halloween references last minute, I would agree with you. However by the time they filmed the script it was Halloween and they filmed it that way.

You are also forgeting that this was back in 1978. I don't know how old you are but back then people didn't decorate their houses up for Halloween like we see today. It wasn't like Christmas where you put lights up or a ton of moving animatronic skeletons out on your lawn. That stuff exists today but not back in 78. I grew up trick o treating in those times and if someone had a pumpkin out with a light in it, well that was celebrating Halloween. The film was a representation of that time and Carpenter went out of his way to give it a Halloween "October" atmosphere with fake leaves on the ground, filming with an orange tint in the day scenes to give it a fall look since it was in Cali. He even covered up palm trees in the background as best he could. So your argument is lame at best.

 

[ShadowX81]

I already stated that if you like Halloween 4 better that is your choice and I am fine with that. What started the debate was you stating the reasons why. I'm just expressing my opinions on why I disagree. If you can't take a harmless debate, then we can end this discussion now. I never said you had zero credibility. Those are your words, not mine.

It was actually Dark Passenger I was reffering to with that "no credibility" comment.

And I have no problem with a debate. I just want it to be a debate. I don't want to automatically be discounted because I happen to like one of the sequels more than the original.

You also may have a good point about how Halloween was celebrated in 1978. That was 11 years before I was born, so I have no clue how it was back then. I guess I do relate more to the way the Holiday is celebrated in Halloween 4/5.
Also, I did see Halloween 4 before I saw any of the others, so I guess that may have set a baseline for what I enjoyed about the movies.

 

[joebizz34]

It was actually Dark Passenger I was reffering to with that "no credibility" comment.

And I have no problem with a debate. I just want it to be a debate. I don't want to automatically be discounted because I happen to like one of the sequels more than the original.

You also may have a good point about how Halloween was celebrated in 1978. That was 11 years before I was born, so I have no clue how it was back then. I guess I do relate more to the way the Holiday is celebrated in Halloween 4/5.
Also, I did see Halloween 4 before I saw any of the others, so I guess that may have set a baseline for what I enjoyed about the movies.

Ok fair enough. I know we are influenced with things we see growing up. Of course if you saw Halloween 4 before the original I can see why you would feel that way. Halloween 4 and 5 were made in the late 80's and had a different horror style to them at that point. I get why you would think that way about an older film made before your time. I lived in that time and when I first saw Halloween it was about 4 years before they released Halloween 4. So when I went into that theater all pumped up to see Myers return, I was disappointed with how the movie was shot and the look of his mask etc etc. I still thought it was a decent sequel but I had issues with it compared to the original and in some ways part 2 as well.

 

[thenammagazine]

Nope, a few small scenes or set decorations in the background are is still accurate. If you remove every reference to Halloween in the movie, you would probably have to change only a few lines of throwaway dialouge. Id bet less than a minute's worth. Trust me, ive seen the film plenty of times and know it.

The reason I said that Laurie carving the pumpkin was the only scene that refrenced Halloween was because the rest of the refrences are either minor set dressing in the background, or the word Halloween worked into a piece of casual conversation that has nothing to do with the holiday. It may be Halloween, but that is the only scene where the characters are acting like it.


And if he had killed her any other day and returned any other day, you have pretty much the same movie.

This isn't Arbor Day. Its a Holiday that most people (especially young people) celebrate in some way. People dress up, go to parties, go trick or treating (yes, even alot of teenagers), decorate too an extent comparable to Christmas. And yet not a single character is celebrating.

I like how you either ignorantly or intentionally (which I'm guessing the latter because it completely destroys your nonsensical rant) keep dodging the fact that Michael was literally walking down the street in a small town in broad daylight wearing a Halloween mask.

 

[Centurion]

Someone is hating on Carpenter's Classic? What the ****?

I know right?!
The original still remains and will always be my favorite in the franchise.
And the best mask, by far, is the William Shatner mask for the shape!

 

[TheFiend]

Halloween 4 was an excellent film, in many respects better than the original. Hell, even Halloween 5 had some pretty good parts. Who cares about what the mask looked like.

Part 4 is beyond bad.

The only thing I like in that movie was the opening credits with that eerie forboding music and the camera going over empty Halloween decorated landscapes. As soon as characters popped up on screen it was vile. The psychic link, the mask, the shoulder pads, those stupid dreams Jaime (?) was having. Ugh. But to each his own. I know a lot of people that love it.

 

[lt0778]

the first movie will always be the best it always scared the s##t out of me. myers is my favorite harrow character.

 

[horrorfankiller]

i want that part 3 it looks awsome

 

[thenammagazine]

i want that part 3 it looks awsome

 

[Voorhees27]

i want that part 3 it looks awsome

 

[Centurion]

i want that part 3 it looks awsome

That was awesome!

 

[Deckard]

 

[SculptorJoel]

Here are some quick pictures of my Michael Myers Custom Figure. I am very pleased with it.
The figure consists of:
Accurate jungle boots.
Hot Toys body.
One's Customs knife.
Gripping hands (Not Hot Toys, Hold knife much better)
1/6 Michael Myers Head Sculpt bought on the internet and then re sculpted, re painted, hole drilled in side and haired by me.
Overalls re dyed and re weathered (I am not sure of the make)