The Night HE Came Home: Show Us Some MYERS!
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thenammagazine
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Kinda hypocritical for a fan of Firefly, a series and movie that had nothing to do with the insects.
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Kinda hypocritical for a fan of Firefly, a series and movie that had nothing to do with the insects.
. Almost spit out my drink!!
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Once again il ask, why title it Halloween? Why not title it "The Babysitter Murders". If it was ultimatly trivial, why name the film after it?
And on a further note, why am I wrong for liking the fact that Halloween 4 actually took the time to work the concept (which inherantly lends itself perfectly to a horror movie) more into the plot?
You do realize that Firefly was the name of the type of ship that the entire series takes place on and all the plots revolve around, right?
And on a further note, why am I wrong for liking the fact that Halloween 4 actually took the time to work the concept (which inherantly lends itself perfectly to a horror movie) more into the plot?
Kinda hypocritical for a fan of Firefly, a series and movie that had nothing to do with the insects.
You do realize that Firefly was the name of the type of ship that the entire series takes place on and all the plots revolve around, right?
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thenammagazine
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Wrong, the name of the ship was Serenity. It was a "Firefly class" ship. But my point still stands, it wasn't about the bugs. It's as silly a comment as your rant about Halloween not being about the holiday.
Nice edit.
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Uh no its not. The first is the name of something that the entire freaking series revolved around, wheras the title Halloween had little to nothing to do with the movie.
Look, I like the fact that the sequel worked the concept of the holiday more into the plot, wheras the original barely acknowledged its own title. Thats how I feel and I have every right to say so. (Though you still haven't managed to answer my question why they changed the title of the original film if "Halloween" had nothing to do with it)
I guess you will just call me a troll like you do to everyone else on this board who says something you don't like.
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thenammagazine
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No, what you say doesn't make any sense. Halloween was an underlying theme in the film, as was the ship in Titanic, as is the ship in the Firefly series. It's not THE story, but a tool utilized to tell it. I'm sorry that seems to be too complicated a concept for you to grasp. Can you think of any other day of the year a psycho killer could openly walk public streets of a small town in broad daylight, wearing a halloween mask and not be surrounded by cops?
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No, what you say doesn't make any sense. Halloween was an underlying theme in the film, as was the ship in Titanic, as is the ship in the Firefly series. It's not THE story, but a tool utilized to tell it. I'm sorry that seems to be too complicated a concept for you to grasp. Can you think of any other day of the year a psycho killer could openly walk public streets of a small town in broad daylight, wearing a halloween mask and not be surrounded by cops?
Halloween is not an underlying theme because no one in this movie is treating it like it is Halloween. Its not in any way a tool utilized to tell the story. Its a minor background detail and a few throwaway lines. Everyone in Haddonfield seems to be treating it like any other night.
Make the movie take place on any other single day of the freaking year and essentially nothing changes. Wheras (going by your example) if you put Titanic in any other setting suddenly the whole plot is different.
Can you think of a Halloween where not one teenager in the entire town seems the least bit concerned with dressing up or going to parties, where the only decorations that anyone puts out is a pumpkin or two, and the only people at all that seem to be celebrating are a single group of kids that are trick or treating in the middle of the day?
Hell, my nephew is 2 and even he gets to trick or treat at night.
If that isn't important to you, than that is fine. The movie still works without it. But I liked that Halloween 4 used it. What is your problem with me enjoying that?
thenammagazine
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So then someone strolling around in a white Kirk mask in broad daylight is the norm in your town when it's not Halloween?
I don't believe anyone is telling you not to enjoy it. Yes the later sequels do some more of "the holiday spirits". From what I took from your original post was that the original only had 1 small reference( Laurie cutting the pumpkin) and that's it, which is not the case. And if you taking all the sequels into consideration, then you need to understand that maybe halloween night just started in Haddonfield? Part 2 is the continuation of the same night and you see much more activities in that one. Also kids trick r treating during the day is very common and not unheard of.
He kills his sister on Halloween and then returns to his home town to kill more people on Halloween. What more plot points do you need then that to call it Halloween? I mean there are movies made that have a title that only refers to a character saying a line once in a movie. So your argument is weak. Sorry.
Yes the movie was originally going to be called Babysitter Murders and they added the Halloween theme as a hook or a gimick as some would say. But regardless, it had enough references to the day to justify the title. Pumpkins, trick or treaters, Myers in a clown costume in the beginning, scary movies on TV while they carve a pumpkin. What more do they need to show?
If you like part 4 better, that's your opinion but your reasons are a little off IMO.
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That's exactly what he said. Then, after my post about Michael stealing the mask from the hardward store he changed it to "just a few small scenes" which is also inaccurate. I think Shadow needs to rewatch the film and count just how many scenes have some "holiday" piece in them.
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That's exactly what he said. Then, after my post about Michael stealing the mask from the hardward store he changed it to "just a few small scenes" which is also inaccurate. I think Shadow needs to rewatch the film and count just how many scenes have some "holiday" piece in them.
Nope, a few small scenes or set decorations in the background are is still accurate. If you remove every reference to Halloween in the movie, you would probably have to change only a few lines of throwaway dialouge. Id bet less than a minute's worth. Trust me, ive seen the film plenty of times and know it.
The reason I said that Laurie carving the pumpkin was the only scene that refrenced Halloween was because the rest of the refrences are either minor set dressing in the background, or the word Halloween worked into a piece of casual conversation that has nothing to do with the holiday. It may be Halloween, but that is the only scene where the characters are acting like it.
And if he had killed her any other day and returned any other day, you have pretty much the same movie.
This isn't Arbor Day. Its a Holiday that most people (especially young people) celebrate in some way. People dress up, go to parties, go trick or treating (yes, even alot of teenagers), decorate too an extent comparable to Christmas. And yet not a single character is celebrating.
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Your reasoning is getting stranger and stranger.
Showing kids dressed up and trick o treating... Check
Teenagers drinking and having sex while celebrating the holiday.. Check
Carving pumpkins and watching scary movies.....Check
Killer wearing a "Halloween mask" ....... Check
Teenager joking around wearing a sheet over his head with glasses to spook out his girlfriend as a ghost celebrating Halloween....Check
Of course you can re-write the movie to take out Halloween but you can re-write a lot of movies to change plots of a lot of things so what's your point?
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