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Your epistemological standards are as bankrupt as his. It's no wonder that you'd be too obtuse to recognize the validity of what I implied. Evasion is second nature to you.

What you did was attack him instead of the particular argument he was making. You used an unrelated topic to avoid the subject at hand with the intention of undermining his credibility since he has views on other topics that you find questionable. Other topics are not this topic, irrespective of whether he is wrong or not on those.
The implication of what you said was also that he was unrealistic in his thinking, which, again, really has no bearing on whether he is correct in what he is saying on health issues.
 
Similarly to how you would never learn the actual science which refutes your claims because it would destroy your farce of morally superior enlightenment.

You don't practice medicine? No kidding. You got your education out of a book and have zero practical knowledge. You are 100% rationalist. Imagine my surprise...
What science??? You don't need science to prove everything I said about the AMA and how it was founded ,and the drug companies. They are all matters of public record.

What did my argument have to do with MORALS, other than my statement that TV ads for prescription drugs directly to consumers is wrong??

Information out of a book and zero practical knowledge? Untrue. I have almost a quarter century of experience using my knowledge.
I haven't spent years doing the wrong approach to health like most doctors do.
Logic should tell you that prevention is best.

Science has proven that epigenetics is real, and that environment and diet affect epigenetics, which then causes genetic diseases. So many people claim that diseases are genetic and not diet, when in fact bad diet causes bad genetics...

Why would I want to practice medicine only to be forced to do it wrong( assuming I really I want to help people) and if I do it right, I lose my license to practice medicine, like Johnathan Wright?

I have absolutely no interest in going to medical school, spending all of that money and time only so that I will be forced to sell drugs and be prevented from really helping people. That is a waste of my time. It would be totally different if the AMA was about helping the patient first and foremost.
The AMA was engineered to empower drug companies.
 
None of your charges of corruption address the science of oncology. For that you would need, um, knowledge of both medicine and the biochemistry of cancer. Your entire argument is based on allegations of immorality against your chosen demons, which is what you have accused me of doing to teemu.

The only reason this discussion is happening is because i posted Johns Hopkins' refutation of claims made by crazies like yourself using the name of Johns Hopkins. They attributed their non-science to the people who they are trying to smear because they know they have zero scientific credibility.

You're invoking a moral code from the Dark Ages to legitimize medicine from the Dark Ages. Do you have any idea how insanely evil you sound?

I think we're done here (again).
 
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Drink up! I know most of you are..

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None of your charges of corruption address the science of oncology. For that you would need, um, knowledge of both medicine and the biochemistry of cancer. Your entire argument is based on allegations of immorality against your chosen demons, which is what you have accused me of doing to teemu.

The only reason this discussion is happening is because i posted Johns Hopkins' refutation of claims made by crazies like yourself using the name of Johns Hopkins. They attributed their non-science to the people who they are trying to smear because they know they have zero scientific credibility.

You're invoking a moral code from the Dark Ages to legitimize medicine from the Dark Ages. Do you have any idea how insanely evil you sound?

I think we're done here (again).

As far as "the science of oncology", the AMA hasn't cured cancer yet, so where is the science? They DON'T HAVE any science to cure cancer, so there is no science as far as being effective. The whole problem with oncology is they don't look at what causes cancer. They don't admit what causes cancer. If you don't address the cause and stop the cause, you can't cure it. They don't really address how how normal cells mutate into cancer cells and how to revert those mutated cells back into healthy ones. That is what they need to be doing.

To do that they would need to admit that pesticides cause cancer, and a lot of junk food does too.

IGF-1, a synthetic growth hormone in dairy, causes cancer cells to grow.
Do they talk about stopping using milk from cows administered IGF-1 in order to get them to produce more milk in oncology? Nope.
AMA oncology is not successful method of curing cancer, so it isn't a legitimate way to cure it. It doesn't work!
It is only legitimate in the sense that it is legal, and is the only legal means, and was made so in order to sell drugs.

A cell becomes cancerous when it is deprived of 60% of it's oxygen requirements.
An acidic chemistry reduces the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood.
High fat in the blood also reduces the oxygen carrying capacity.

Pesticides cause cancer and are fat soluble. ( That is for a reason, because if they were water soluble, they would wash off after every watering cycle, and thus you would need to use so much, it would kill the plants.

That is one of the reasons why they genetically engineered soybeans. They genetically engineered them to withstand more pesticides without dying. Of course, now the soybeans CONTAIN more pesticides, which they pass on to YOU, OR the animals that eat them as feed.
After the animals eat those pesticides, they become more concentrated in the animal's tissues, to be passed on to people who eat their flesh or their dairy. That means more cancer for people.)

I know quite a bit about what causes cancer.

It is EASY to kill cancel cells, by the way. The challenge is being able to kill them without killing the person with the cancer.

That is the thing that oncologists cannot do, because they don't acknowledge nutrition in health. Nutrition allows the body to be strong enough so it can heal itself, whether it be to try to heal people of cancer without chemotherapy, or to use nutrition to help the people to be strong in spite of chemotherapy to help people to recover better from it.

How many oncologists assist patients with a comprehensive nutritional program involving organic foods with nutritional supplementation and excluding things like pork, beef, chicken, and dairy? Not many. Any? Do they support juicing? Do they provide juicers and juice recipes? Will insurance pay for juicers and nutritional supplements? Nope.

Medicine from the Dark Ages? You mean like bleeding people and not washing their hands, like the allopathic doctors did?

Nutrition has been around forever, and there have always been some people who knew which plants to eat which helped fight disease. That started long before the Dark Ages. Something doesn't need to be modern in order for it to help to heal the body, which is not modern.

Modern fixes are only required for modern things.

The causes and cures of disease have been around for tens of thousands of years The only thing that has ever been lacking as far as natural remedies are concerned is the knowledge to use them right. Some people have known for centuries. Some are so blinded by technology and greed that they only trust the modern poindexter with his super profitable new drug, as if somehow he knows better than nature, or there was something wrong with the human body in the first place.

People get disease because they don't treat the body properly. Sickness comes from a sick lifestyle, and a sick lifestyle comes from a sick mind. A sick mind comes from a confused, inexperienced mind believing in things that don't work because someone else who wanted to exploit them for power or money told them to believe in that.
 
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While you may not agree with Teemu or Blackthorne, they.....until pused and pushed.....come off very level headed and just try to give information while some of the others come off as just enjoying being a ****. I'm convinced that if Teemu said the sky was blue some of you would disagree and say it just appears that way with the suns light reflection off the atmosphere so YOU'RE WRONG TEEMU!
 
", the AMA hasn't cured cancer yet, so where is the science?

exactly! though you can prove cure and recovery to better health by diet and giving your body the nutrients its needs to heal the body along with preventing disease
 
No, you can't prove it. That's your problem.

This is ****ing ridiculous. Yeah, Kit. ******** goes down easier when it's spread level. Nothing scary or belligerent. Rev. Mengele is just trying to help. He's not in it for himself. You can trust him.
 
I don't have cancer. I mastur bate regularly. Masturbation prevents cancer.
 
The Lancet won't publish my work. This proves the medical industrial complex wants to conceal the truth.
 
No, you can't prove it. That's your problem.

Sure I can just by my own personal practice...I eat healthy,I research what is healthy to eat and what things to avoid that are unhealthy.The Results? I have more energy, I don't get sick,I have no disease,I don't have to go to the Doctor ever.

Why is this so hard to accept?? because would that mean you would have to give up your smoking and drinking? Two of the worse killer's in this country behind Heart Disease and Cancer

You might want to read what Blackthorne said about how Cancer is caused in his last post...when your body lacks Oxygen in the Blood and your body is Acidic,Cancer cells which is basicaly a fungus grows and feeds off Acids.
 
Sure I can just by my own personal practice...I eat healthy,I research what is healthy to eat and what things to avoid that are unhealthy.The Results? I have more energy, I don't get sick,I have no disease,I don't have to go to the Doctor ever.

Why is this so hard to accept?? because would that mean you would have to give up your smoking and drinking? Two of the worse killer's in this country behind Heart Disease and Cancer
You might want to read what Blackthorne said about how Cancer is caused in his last post...when your body lacks Oxygen in the Blood and your body is Acidic,Cancer cells which is basicaly a fungus grows and feeds off Acids.


Cancer cells were normal cells that were deprived of a healthy environment and so they mutated into cancer in order to survive in that environment. After a cell turns cancerous is it is only interested in self preservation and feeds off of the body in order to survive. It converts other normal cells into cancer cells, which is how it spreads. If you maintain a really healthy body, your cells will be far less likely to turn into cancer cells.

This is sort of a universal phenomenon. When living creatures are abused, they turn violent against others.
 
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If you believe in the system (because it is more powerful than you) wholeheartedly and without question as if it was always honest, then you will believe that any information that is not published widely in the mainstream isn't true.

The system isn't honest. It is rigged for the financial benefit for those in power. That is who the laws are made for, and who the system is made for.

The AMA isn't honest with the public. They like the drug companies are in it primarily to profit as much as possible. Profit from the pesticides and herbicides, which leads to profit from the painkillers and antacids and psychiatric drugs. It leads to diseases which lead to selling drugs to manage the symptoms. They sell a drug which manages the symptoms of one disease, and then another drug to manage the side effects of the first drug.
If people got healthy from good nutrition, the profits of all of these drugs would evaporate, which is bad for business.

Drug companies make sometimes more than 125,000% profit from drugs. That should tell you what their agenda is. It isn't to help people foremost.
The drug companies determine the curriculum of the medical schools.

Since the agenda of the drug companies has been made obvious by the extraordinary profit margins of the drugs they sell, and they determine the curriculum of the AMA, and the AMA is geared towards treating people with drugs and labeling any type of medicine that competes with these drugs as quacks, we know the agenda of the AMA as a result of this.

There is simply too much money in drugs for the AMA not to be corrupt, and the lawmakers not to be corrupt as well, as a result.
If the AMA and the lawmakers truly cared about people, they wouldn't let these so called "life saving" drugs be so expensive. The fact that they are so expensive proves the fact that they don't really care about people.

The fact that the drugs are expensive, and that they cause lethal and often crippling side effects proves what kind of character those who run the drug companies and the AMA and the lawmakers have.


It proves you can't trust the AMA.
 
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