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Correlation and smears. I am talking to myself.

And I'll be damned if there's nothing more ironic than those who profess to possess judging the quality of other professer's faith. And in the same breath, condemning all other faiths as 'worldly'. Someone call the Spanish Inquisition.
 
Correlation and smears. I am talking to myself.

And I'll be damned if there's nothing more ironic than those who profess to possess judging the quality of other professer's faith. And in the same breath, condemning all other faiths as 'worldly'. Someone call the Spanish Inquisition.

No God gets more blasphemed than the Lord Jesus Christ.You always hear people curse his name as their regular normal speech or you here his name constantly blasphemed/cursed in the movies/TV etc.

I never hear any "other" gods get blasphemed in the real world or in movies.Why doesn't Hollywood blaspheme the Muslim's god? why don't they curse Buddha's name? or curse the counterfeit Jesus, Horus? Nope! it's always taking the Lord Jesus Christ name in vain then violating one of the 10 commandments

I know my God is hated by MANY,that is why
 
Christ on a stick...:slap

The day "Christian" carries the same defamatory quality as "Jew", you can complain. Until then, shut the hell up.
 
there is a difference between "professing" Christ Vs actually Possessing Christ.....I know many people who profess to believe in God, but you wouldn't know it by their speech and their actions.They don't have a clue who or what they believe in,but they will say they believe in a high power (Satan is a high power too).....No Real Christian I know gets upset over Scripture being quoted from the Bible,but a real Christian takes in the Word of God,studies it,and tries to apply it to their lives.

Matthew 7:15-20

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

So many say "I Believe in a God" but do they know the Son?

I am sure your Hate will flow on me for this post.Devils hate hearing the truth of the Word of God ;)

If you want to believe, what you believe in dieting, then you're free to do so. But, I have seen people like you before - who perpetuate their own interpretation (or lack thereof) of scripture in order to mask a grievous ignorance on science and real world aesthetics. You're not fooling anyone. But, you are doing exactly what scripture has warned against, time and time again about judging others.

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
James 4:11-12

With that said, you have no right to judge who is a real "Christian" and who is not. That's between the individual and God. And on another note, you do owe devilof76 an apology for calling him a "devil" for simply disagreeing with you. But, that's on your own conscience :lol.
 
If you want to believe, what you believe in dieting, then you're free to do so. But, I have seen people like you before - who perpetuate their own interpretation (or lack thereof) of scripture in order to mask a grievous ignorance on science and real world aesthetics. You're not fooling anyone. But, you are doing exactly what scripture has warned against, time and time again about judging others.

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
James 4:11-12

With that said, you have no right to judge who is a real "Christian" and who is not. That's between the individual and God. And on another note, you do owe devilof76 an apology for calling him a "devil" for simply disagreeing with you. But, that's on your own conscience :lol.



The Bible tells us to Judge Righteous Judgement.You completely mis-interpret Judging in that passage

We don't Judge a brother's eternal state (that is true judgement of a person)

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

We ARE to make right and wrong judgements.In Fact,we make judgements everyday whether to do right or to do wrong..

I Cor. 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

There are two types of Judgement in the Bible..

The first judgement is judging someone and then sending them to Hell (That is the WRONG kind of judgement the bible teaches against.ONLY God is our Judge)

and then there is Righteous Judgement determining Right and Wrong through Scripture.The Bible teaches us that we KNOW a Believer by their fruits! If one professes Christianity,but lives like the heathen,one could question whether that person is really a believer or saved.

I agree,we are not to judge a person's eternal state because only God knows their heart,but a true Christian would not take offense to Bible Scripture or God's Word considering that the believer believes God's Word is the FINAL AUTHORITY.

Bottom line,people don't want to hear about Sin and what they do wrong

God Expects Us to Judge

"The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." (Psa. 37:30) A righteous person will talk of judgment. He will not REFUSE to judge. He will talk judgment.

"Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph." (Amos 5:14-15) How can you hate the evil and love the good if you refuse to judge? You can't. You are SINNING when you refuse to judge.

Our generation is well described in Isaiah 59:8: "The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace." People have refused to judge, so there is no peace.

Paul said in I Corinthians 1:10 to ". . . be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." Why would Paul make such a statement if judging is wrong? In I Corinthians 2:15 Paul says, "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." Judging is not a sin; judging is a characteristic of being a spiritual person! Satan has been lying to us, hoping that we will NOT judge, because he knows that the right kind of judgment PLEASES God and betters our lives and Christian service.

Someone says, "But should we judge PEOPLE?" Yes, we certainly should. Paul actually REBUKES the Corinthians for NOT judging: "Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?" (I Cor. 6:1-5) If judging is wrong, then Paul needs to confess and repent for misleading these Christians! He clearly told them to JUDGE PEOPLE.

If judging people is wrong, how can we obey Romans 16:17-18? II Corinthians 6:17? II Timothy 3:5-6? I John 4:1? Friend, if judging is wrong, then God has contradicted Himself and His words cannot be trusted!

Notice Malachi 3:18: "Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not." WOW! Does that sound like it is wrong to judge?

What about Revelation 2:2? " I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" Why would the Lord be pleased with these Christians if judging was wrong? Is it not impossible to find someone a "liar" without judging them?

If the Bible is clear about anything, it is clear about the importance of judging on a regular basis in order to properly serve and honor God. To ignore this fact is to ignore all of the Scripture just presented and also the rest of the Bible. God expects us to judge.
 
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Because I have something of value to say.

you keep thinking that....all you do is insult people...there is no value in that.You tell me to shut up like you actually can :lol
 
Where does it say to judge the faith of others who profess to believe Christ?

you keep thinking that....all you do is insult people...there is no value in that.You tell me to shut up like you actually can :lol

What you perceive as insults, others recognize as me passing judgment.
 
Where does it say to judge the faith of others who profess to believe Christ?



What you perceive as insults, others recognize as me passing judgment.

are you dense? Matthew 7:16 "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

really could care less what judgements you have about of me ;)
 
The Bible tells us to Judge Righteous Judgement.You completely mis-interpret Judging in that passage

We don't Judge a brother's eternal state (that is true judgement of a person)

We ARE to make right and wrong judgements.In Fact,we make judgements everyday whether to do right or to do wrong..

There are two types of Judgement in the Bible..

The first judgement is judging someone and then sending them to Hell (That is the WRONG kind of judgement the bible teaches against.ONLY God is our Judge)


and then there is Righteous Judgement determining Right and Wrong through Scripture.The Bible teaches us that we KNOW a Believer by their fruits! If one professes Christianity,but lives like the heathen,one could question whether that person is really a believer or saved.


I agree,we are not to judge a person's eternal state because only God knows their heart,but a true Christian would not take offense to Bible Scripture or God's Word considering that the believer believes God's Word is the FINAL AUTHORITY.


Bottom line,people don't want to hear about Sin and what they do wrong

The flaw in your arguments, is that you generalize your OWN interpretation of scripture as the final authority (not God's). Dieting is a highly controversial topic, and many Christians don't adhere to the guidelines that you follow. So, if they drink sodas and adhere to non-organic diets does that make them less holy?

And it's not your call to judge the righteousness of a person, if you don't actually know the person. The Apostle Paul visited Churches, spoke to their congregations and dwelled with them. This gave voice and credence to his words. In comparison, you're just a dude on the Internet who's typing from behind a keyboard, while judging the quality of life of strangers that you haven't even met :lol. Don't you see a problem with this?
 
The flaw in your arguments, is that you generalize your OWN interpretation of scripture as the final authority (not God's). Dieting is a highly controversial topic, and many Christians don't adhere to the guidelines that you follow. So, if they drink sodas and adhere to non-organic diets does that make them less holy?

And it's not your call to judge the righteousness of a person, if you don't actually know the person. The Apostle Paul visited Churches, spoke to their congregations and dwelled with them. This gave voice and credence to his words. In comparison, you're just a dude on the Internet who's typing from behind a keyboard, while judging the quality of life of strangers that you haven't even met :lol. Don't you see a problem with this?

I wasn't Judging anyone...in Fact,it was your own accusation of accusing me of judging people... I didn't judged anyone but quoted Bible Scripture to support my arguements on the topic of health (there are many other verses too)

"So, if they drink sodas and adhere to non-organic diets does that make them less holy"?

not at all.see you're adding your own words to what I actually said....I think there is nothing wrong with warning others of the danger's of toxic and chemically laced food whether they are Christian or non christian.My beliefs of eating right is backed also up by the Bible aswell...It my belief/faith to believe what the Bible says about it...Since you say you're a Christian...why would any Bible Scripture bother you??

Your right,I don't really know some of the folks here on a personal level.But I have read some of their comments over the years which is pretty self explanatory of their beliefs and where they stand against God.Anytime Bible Scripture gets quoted,nothing but HATE pours out from some of these people.

Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
 
The Bible tells us to Judge Righteous Judgement.You completely mis-interpret Judging in that passage

We don't Judge a brother's eternal state (that is true judgement of a person)

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

We ARE to make right and wrong judgements.In Fact,we make judgements everyday whether to do right or to do wrong..

I Cor. 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

There are two types of Judgement in the Bible..

The first judgement is judging someone and then sending them to Hell (That is the WRONG kind of judgement the bible teaches against.ONLY God is our Judge)

and then there is Righteous Judgement determining Right and Wrong through Scripture.The Bible teaches us that we KNOW a Believer by their fruits! If one professes Christianity,but lives like the heathen,one could question whether that person is really a believer or saved.

I agree,we are not to judge a person's eternal state because only God knows their heart,but a true Christian would not take offense to Bible Scripture or God's Word considering that the believer believes God's Word is the FINAL AUTHORITY.

Bottom line,people don't want to hear about Sin and what they do wrong

God Expects Us to Judge

"The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." (Psa. 37:30) A righteous person will talk of judgment. He will not REFUSE to judge. He will talk judgment.

"Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph." (Amos 5:14-15) How can you hate the evil and love the good if you refuse to judge? You can't. You are SINNING when you refuse to judge.

Our generation is well described in Isaiah 59:8: "The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace." People have refused to judge, so there is no peace.

Paul said in I Corinthians 1:10 to ". . . be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." Why would Paul make such a statement if judging is wrong? In I Corinthians 2:15 Paul says, "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." Judging is not a sin; judging is a characteristic of being a spiritual person! Satan has been lying to us, hoping that we will NOT judge, because he knows that the right kind of judgment PLEASES God and betters our lives and Christian service.

Someone says, "But should we judge PEOPLE?" Yes, we certainly should. Paul actually REBUKES the Corinthians for NOT judging: "Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?" (I Cor. 6:1-5) If judging is wrong, then Paul needs to confess and repent for misleading these Christians! He clearly told them to JUDGE PEOPLE.

If judging people is wrong, how can we obey Romans 16:17-18? II Corinthians 6:17? II Timothy 3:5-6? I John 4:1? Friend, if judging is wrong, then God has contradicted Himself and His words cannot be trusted!

Notice Malachi 3:18: "Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not." WOW! Does that sound like it is wrong to judge?

What about Revelation 2:2? " I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" Why would the Lord be pleased with these Christians if judging was wrong? Is it not impossible to find someone a "liar" without judging them?

If the Bible is clear about anything, it is clear about the importance of judging on a regular basis in order to properly serve and honor God. To ignore this fact is to ignore all of the Scripture just presented and also the rest of the Bible. God expects us to judge.

would rather post wall of post with scripture reading than say i made a boo boo. typical teemu. :lol

its always the people who condemn others to fire and brimstone (insert scripture reading here) to make them less accountable by implying god sez so. :lol

justifiable bigotry, its a god given right.:lol

didn't biblegod tell them to eat **** and heed thy warning in ezekiel. if i follow your methodology, pull that out of context and use it as counter argument. <---but that's kindergarten stuff :lol
pls dot bother, spare us from more scripture copy pasting .:lol
 
The Bible tells us to Judge Righteous Judgement.You completely mis-interpret Judging in that passage

We don't Judge a brother's eternal state (that is true judgement of a person)

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

We ARE to make right and wrong judgements.In Fact,we make judgements everyday whether to do right or to do wrong..

I Cor. 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

There are two types of Judgement in the Bible..

The first judgement is judging someone and then sending them to Hell (That is the WRONG kind of judgement the bible teaches against.ONLY God is our Judge)

and then there is Righteous Judgement determining Right and Wrong through Scripture.The Bible teaches us that we KNOW a Believer by their fruits! If one professes Christianity,but lives like the heathen,one could question whether that person is really a believer or saved.

I agree,we are not to judge a person's eternal state because only God knows their heart,but a true Christian would not take offense to Bible Scripture or God's Word considering that the believer believes God's Word is the FINAL AUTHORITY.

Bottom line,people don't want to hear about Sin and what they do wrong

God Expects Us to Judge

"The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." (Psa. 37:30) A righteous person will talk of judgment. He will not REFUSE to judge. He will talk judgment.

"Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph." (Amos 5:14-15) How can you hate the evil and love the good if you refuse to judge? You can't. You are SINNING when you refuse to judge.

Our generation is well described in Isaiah 59:8: "The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace." People have refused to judge, so there is no peace.

Paul said in I Corinthians 1:10 to ". . . be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." Why would Paul make such a statement if judging is wrong? In I Corinthians 2:15 Paul says, "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." Judging is not a sin; judging is a characteristic of being a spiritual person! Satan has been lying to us, hoping that we will NOT judge, because he knows that the right kind of judgment PLEASES God and betters our lives and Christian service.

Someone says, "But should we judge PEOPLE?" Yes, we certainly should. Paul actually REBUKES the Corinthians for NOT judging: "Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?" (I Cor. 6:1-5) If judging is wrong, then Paul needs to confess and repent for misleading these Christians! He clearly told them to JUDGE PEOPLE.

If judging people is wrong, how can we obey Romans 16:17-18? II Corinthians 6:17? II Timothy 3:5-6? I John 4:1? Friend, if judging is wrong, then God has contradicted Himself and His words cannot be trusted!

Notice Malachi 3:18: "Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not." WOW! Does that sound like it is wrong to judge?

What about Revelation 2:2? " I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" Why would the Lord be pleased with these Christians if judging was wrong? Is it not impossible to find someone a "liar" without judging them?

If the Bible is clear about anything, it is clear about the importance of judging on a regular basis in order to properly serve and honor God. To ignore this fact is to ignore all of the Scripture just presented and also the rest of the Bible. God expects us to judge.
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So, uh, teemu, with all the presumed hostility to Christ and scripture in this place, you thought your argument would be bolstered by association with the Lord. And then you cry 'victim' when people of intelligence don't tolerate this embarrassing attempt at claiming authority. What a slippery, sneaky handling of the topic.
 
are you dense? Matthew 7:16 "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

Are you? I see nothing there that empowers you to reckon the quality of another man's relation to Christ.

teemu said:
really could care less what judgements you have about of me ;)

It is not for your benefit that I pass judgment (on you, or your God).
 
So, uh, teemu, with all the presumed hostility to Christ and scripture in this place, you thought your argument would be bolstered by association with the Lord. And then you cry 'victim' when people of intelligence don't tolerate this embarrassing attempt at claiming authority. What a slippery, sneaky handling of the topic.

I couldn't help but notice that another was much slipperier. Have you been keeping track of the half-truths in the walls of text?
 
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I wasn't Judging anyone...in Fact,it was your own accusation of accusing me of judging people... I didn't judged anyone but quoted Bible Scripture to support my arguements on the topic of health (there are many other verses too)

"So, if they drink sodas and adhere to non-organic diets does that make them less holy"?

not at all.see you're adding your own words to what I actually said....I think there is nothing wrong with warning others of the danger's of toxic and chemically laced food whether they are Christian or non christian.My beliefs of eating right is backed also up by the Bible aswell...It my belief/faith to believe what the Bible says about it...Since you say you're a Christian...why would any Bible Scripture bother you??

Your right,I don't really know some of the folks here on a personal level.But I have read some of their comments over the years which is pretty self explanatory of their beliefs and where they stand against God.Anytime Bible Scripture gets quoted,nothing but HATE pours out from some of these people.

Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

As I said before, Bible scripture does not bother me, it's the way that you misuse it as a substitute it for actual science that's a serious problem. To put things into practicality, Paul the Apostle had spent his life traveling to different geographic regions, and he interacted with many non-Jewish cultures. So, would he have had the convenience of picking and choosing his meals (even at the cost of possibly offending his hosts)?

And on a related note, I guess you conveniently missed these scriptures.

1 Timothy 4:1-5
"But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude. for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer."

Christ also said that, "Man shall not live by bread and wine, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." - Matthew 4:4

Most people don't have the convenience of choosing better diets for themselves, and even organic diets are financially out-of-reach for the majority of the population. In addition, what about those in starving, third-world countries that don't even eat?

It's true that you can do a lot to maintain your body in a natural sense. But, for Christians who believe in scripture - much of their health is also based on their own, spiritual upkeeping. This is where faith comes in, and where science does not operate. Hence, you should not use scriptures as a substitute for your blatant lack of medical knowledge, and as a means to propagate what you believe is a healthy way of living.
 
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Teemu, you know as well as I do that the lost LOVE being lost. They love it so much they can't even see it. Their hate is on full disply through their mocking, laughing, arguing and oh so clever GIF's. You can be as even tempered and decent as you want to be and youll always be greeted with mocking, name calling, laughing and being attacked. It's just the way it is. At the final judhement many of them will probably still shake their fist at God even when every knee bows and every tongue confesses. They will call Him unfair and unloving even though He couldn't have been any more fair or loving. They see what they want to see. Let them.
 
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