The "Random BS & Medical Conspiracies" Thread

[devilof76]

 

[Solidus]

 

[devilof76]

 

[Solidus]

well considering your name is Devil and by your quote,that sure sounds like something the Devil himself would say

Can you... shut up?

Grossly embarassed, which they usually are and do their best to disassociate themselves from the crackpots.

True science does not reference the Bible. As a methodology, it does not acknowledge the Bible---or any holy book---whatsoever. If you'd like to interpret the Bible according to science after it is established, go for it. Using the Bible to draw lines in the sands for science (or as a substitute for actual research) is as non-scientific as you can get.

This is why there are scientists: because the Bible does not provide sufficient knowledge for living on Earth.

Exactly. The Bible is a religious book, and while I do hold it to be true (based purely on my own faith), it was not meant to provide guidelines for scientific methodology. It doesn't have to be said, that the Catholic Church had made a mess out of things by using (or rather, misusing) scripture as a basis for propagating their own views on science. They even wanted to burn Spinoza, simply because he provided a different, naturalistic explanation for God - which, surprisingly, fell in line with Darwin's accounts on evolution.

Many Evangelicals do the same thing as well. They'd go into extremes to refute the fact that dinosaurs ever existed, or that the elements of the periodic table were not formed from Supernovas .

It's okay to discuss the Bible, based on its religious contexts that concerns faith (because it is a religious book). But, people need to leave science to the actual scientists.

 

[fosing]

teemu is on the verge of bankruptcy and running low on ammo resorting to avatar labeling. LOLZ

must we associate teemu with skeletor or pimp daddy destro to go THAT low? nice try teemu.

 

[fosing]

Exactly. The Bible is a religious book, and while I do hold it to be true (based purely on my own faith), it was not meant to provide guidelines for scientific methodology. It doesn't have to be said, that the Catholic Church had made a mess out of things by using (or rather, misusing) scripture as a basis for propagating their own views on science. They even wanted to burn Spinoza, simply because he provided a different, naturalistic explanation for God - which, surprisingly, fell in line with Darwin's accounts on evolution.

Many Evangelicals do the same thing as well. They'd go into extremes to refute the fact that dinosaurs ever existed, or that the elements of the periodic table were not formed from Supernovas .

It's okay to discuss the Bible, based on its religious contexts that concerns faith (because it is a religious book). But, people need to leave science to the actual scientists.

i doubt teemu and his ilk will ever understand that context.

the irony here is, this world would be damn boring without people like teemu. if there really is a god, he/she/it would be laughing. never be boring or else he/she/it will go old testament again.

 

[Lejuan]

Quoting scripture to support a dangerous and deluded world view... gosh, how original.

It's curious how The Lord saw fit to eradicate so many preventable communicable diseases only after humans developed vaccines. It's like He put it off or forgot about it for a few thousand years. And He was very selective about where He intervened - only in developed countries with an effective vaccine program. He certainly does work in mysterious ways.

 

[fosing]

i'm waiting for teemu to say the reptilians designed and released those diseases for monetary gain.

 

[devilof76]

So if I have this right, the AMA is run by Martians. Probably Zionists. Probably shapeshifting nephilim lizards. They give us cancer so that we will buy drugs that don't cure cancer, and then we die and can't buy any more drugs. Strikes me as a sound business plan.

 

[fosing]

the reptiles are fattening us up...and they hate veggies.

its a cooookbooook!!!!!

 

[devilof76]

Well that explains the wasted people who die of cancer. They are not prime stock, capable of surviving the process of fattening and tenderizing. They make up for it by pretending to treat the disease and cashing in so they have more money to prepare the rest of us. Brilliant!

 

[KitFisto]

So, in your deluded mind all Christians should be boasting their love of Jesus Christ and professing scriptures anonymously on collectibles forums?

Actually true Christians have Christ as a part of their daily life. We don't "leave Him at the door". He is where our Faith and beliefs are and yes, a professing Christian will make pleanty of mistakes, but they wont be ashamed of Him or hide their Faith to avoid ridicule. The world Hates Christ and Christians will be hated for His sake. So if it's here, at the store or at home yes, Christians will "boast their love" of Christ.

 

[Blackthornone]

So if I have this right, the AMA is run by Martians. Probably Zionists. Probably shapeshifting nephilim lizards. They give us cancer so that we will buy drugs that don't cure cancer, and then we die and can't buy any more drugs. Strikes me as a sound business plan.

Martians? lol.
People only live so long, so they might calculate how to get as much money as possible before people would otherwise die of natural causes. They get a lot more money by people developing cancer and then having to pay for treatment than they would if people never develop cancer. That is the bottom line. More profit than not.

As far as making money, it is the most profitable business plan there is on this Earth. Nothing is more profitable than pharmaceutical drugs. Nothing even comes close.

What else offers 150,000% profit? What else offers 100,000% profit? What else offers even 25,000% profit?
Name just one thing.
Considering the cost of doing business, I'll be even crack cocaine isn't as profitable as pharmaceuticals.

 

[devilof76]

I'm sorry Kit, but 30% of the world population is Christian. 23% are Muslim. 22% are Hindu. 6% are Buddhist.

By contrast, 0.2% are Jewish. Even atheists rate 1.8%. So, tell us again how persecuted and poorly represented people of your faith are.

 

[devilof76]

Martians? lol.
People only live so long, so they might calculate how to get as much money as possible before people would otherwise die of natural causes. They get a lot more money by people developing cancer and then having to pay for treatment than they would if people never develop cancer.

In the first place, money is made. Values are created and then traded. Producing the cause of the disease (which they supposedly know nothing about) and then offering a cure that doesn't work is not a formula for profit. Further, your accusations are base speculation, derived from a rotten view of human nature that essentially sees the richest as murderers and the rest of us as sacrificial morons. From there you deduce that oncology is a fraud designed to exploit the sick and dying.

It's a cheap, opportunistic smear, and nothing more.

 

[teemu]

I'm sorry Kit, but 30% of the world population is Christian. 23% are Muslim. 22% are Hindu. 6% are Buddhist.

By contrast, 0.2% are Jewish. Even atheists rate 1.8%. So, tell us again how persecuted and poorly represented people of your faith are.

there is a difference between "professing" Christ Vs actually Possessing Christ.....I know many people who profess to believe in God, but you wouldn't know it by their speech and their actions.They don't have a clue who or what they believe in,but they will say they believe in a high power (Satan is a high power too).....No Real Christian I know gets upset over Scripture being quoted from the Bible,but a real Christian takes in the Word of God,studies it,and tries to apply it to their lives.

Matthew 7:15-20

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

So many say "I Believe in a God" but do they know the Son?

I am sure your Hate will flow on me for this post.Devils hate hearing the truth of the Word of God

 

[Blackthornone]

In the first place, money is made. Values are created and then traded. Producing the cause of the disease (which they supposedly know nothing about) and then offering a cure that doesn't work is not a formula for profit. Further, your accusations are base speculation, derived from a rotten view of human nature that essentially sees the richest as murderers and the rest of us as sacrificial morons. From there you deduce that oncology is a fraud designed to exploit the sick and dying.

It's a cheap, opportunistic smear, and nothing more.

The drug companies know what causes cancer. Those who run the AMA probably know, too, but they keep the individual doctors in the dark about it so that they will be willing to play the game as the powers that be want. A lot of individual doctors are too busy defending the superiority of their education to learn anything outside AMA.

There is nothing speculative about certain things like pesticides causing cancer. They have been proven to do it.

Bad diet has also been proven to cause cancer. Fast food and junk food causes it.

We know that the same companies that make pesticides also make chemotherapy drugs, too. Nothing speculative about that.

We know how much profit margin that pharmaceutical drugs that these companies make generate. There is absolutely nothing speculative about that.

It is unrealistic to believe that those who own those companies who make pesticides AND drugs don't know what is going on.

We know that drug companies have been behind trying to get legislation passed that labels vitamins and nutritional supplements as drugs, so as to drive vitamin and supplement companies out of business. Nothing speculative about that.

The AMA, which INCLUDES oncology is a fraud designed to exploit everyone for profits. I draw this conclusion based upon their actions.
An oil man, Rockefeller, was responsible for instituting the AMA and thereby eliminating all of the competition of all other types of doctors at the time.
Nothing speculative about that.
He did it because he wanted to make money selling drugs, which only allopathic medicine would allow. Empirical medicine didn't use drugs.

To deny that the AMA is about profit is willful ignorance motivated by a desire to defend profiteering and the status quo, out of pure fear that the system might actually be corrupt, which an idea too uncomfortable for many people to bear.

 

[KitFisto]

I'm sorry Kit, but 30% of the world population is Christian. 23% are Muslim. 22% are Hindu. 6% are Buddhist.

By contrast, 0.2% are Jewish. Even atheists rate 1.8%. So, tell us again how persecuted and poorly represented people of your faith are.

What does the percentage have to do with anything? If you knew the Bible then you'd know what I mean by the "the world". In other words, worldly people and systems. The secular. Also, professing to be a Christian doesn't makes you one. I've seen many "Christians" taking blantantly anti God stances yet they claim to be a Christians. Christians sin and make mistakes like anyone, but they don't celebrate and stand for what God opposes.

 

[teemu]

What does the percentage have to do with anything? If you knew the Bible then you'd know what I mean by the "the world". In other words, worldly people and systems. The secular. Also, professing to be a Christian doesn't makes you one. I've seen many "Christians" taking blantantly anti God stances yet they claim to be a Christians. Christians sin and make mistakes like anyone, but they don't celebrate and stand for what God opposes.

 

[teemu]

The drug companies know what causes cancer. Those who run the AMA probably know, too, but they keep the individual doctors in the dark about it so that they will be willing to play the game as the powers that be want. A lot of individual doctors are too busy defending the superiority of their education to learn anything outside AMA.

There is nothing speculative about certain things like pesticides causing cancer. They have been proven to do it.

Bad diet has also been proven to cause cancer. Fast food and junk food causes it.

We know that the same companies that make pesticides also make chemotherapy drugs, too. Nothing speculative about that.

We know how much profit margin that pharmaceutical drugs that these companies make generate. There is absolutely nothing speculative about that.

It is unrealistic to believe that those who own those companies who make pesticides AND drugs don't know what is going on.

We know that drug companies have been behind trying to get legislation passed that labels vitamins and nutritional supplements as drugs, so as to drive vitamin and supplement companies out of business. Nothing speculative about that.

The AMA, which INCLUDES oncology is a fraud designed to exploit everyone for profits. I draw this conclusion based upon their actions.
An oil man, Rockefeller, was responsible for instituting the AMA and thereby eliminating all of the competition of all other types of doctors at the time.
Nothing speculative about that.
He did it because he wanted to make money selling drugs, which only allopathic medicine would allow. Empirical medicine didn't use drugs.

To deny that the AMA is about profit is willful ignorance motivated by a desire to defend profiteering and the status quo, out of pure fear that the system might actually be corrupt, which an idea too uncomfortable for many people to bear.

right on! look up Codex Alimentarius