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That's excellent batfan! Mr. Green I'd have thought you were a fan of any green things...I'm assuming diet mtn dew is green anyway
 
Im pumpin aluminum curling these brews, keepin hydrated at the same time. If that isnt a good workout, i dont know what is.

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I never really posted in this thread before; probably on account of me not doing **** for most of my life, but I figured "**** it." I've developed enough of a healthy lifestyle that I can insert myself into the conversation.:lol Since last year, I just decided it was time for a change. Honestly, it wasn't anything dramatic. I started walking my dog, then I started exploring the neighborhood with him, and, before I knew it, I was walking a mile and a half with him every night. I quit drinking regular pop, though I have developed an affinity for Diet Mountain Dew, though I try to drink three bottles of water for every glass of it I have, I still eat what I want, mostly, but I've also found that my tastes changed significantly since I actually started trying different things.

If somebody'd have told me 5 years ago that the way to get me to eat a salad was to eat it with fruit in it, I'd have told them they were full of ****.:lol Anyway, I'm down to 223, as of my last weigh in, having lost 74 lbs since my last visit to the doctor over a year ago. My goal weight is around 190, so, I've still got a ways to go, but I've already noticed a significant shift in my self-esteem, self-image, and, frankly, my capabilities. I ran my first mile without stopping tonight, so, that made me kind of happy.

Congratulations, man! I used to be heavy myself, but got into bodybuilding a few years ago after I lost all the weight and then I'm told I'm too skinny. It's easier than you think to get fit.

I've been trying to lean out for a vacation in August and I checked today (I do every Saturday) that I lost a pound this week. That makes a total of 5lbs thus far in about a month. I'm surprised I can still lose weight even with my amount of calories.

If I can cut another 5-10lbs off, I'm happy. In August I planned to cut 200 calories off my total just to make sure I'm cut before I leave for the beach.
 
Congratulations, man! I used to be heavy myself, but got into bodybuilding a few years ago after I lost all the weight and then I'm told I'm too skinny. It's easier than you think to get fit.

I've been trying to lean out for a vacation in August and I checked today (I do every Saturday) that I lost a pound this week. That makes a total of 5lbs thus far in about a month. I'm surprised I can still lose weight even with my amount of calories.

If I can cut another 5-10lbs off, I'm happy. In August I planned to cut 200 calories off my total just to make sure I'm cut before I leave for the beach.

Thanks! Yeah, I have to say: I'm a firm believer in the power of calorie counting. Carbs, sugar; I probably should pay more attention to that stuff, but I just watch my caloric intake and it seems like it's done a hell of a lot of work in my favor, and that's great! I turn 22 next week, and, honestly, this is probably the first time in my life that I feel capable. I wasn't fat all my life, but, even as a kid, I was the athsmatic kid in the class who couldn't do a push up, and that sort of compounded as I gained more weight.

I just started going to the gym not too long ago, and it's one of those things where I'm still trying to figure it out. I do 35 minutes of cardio each time (10 minutes of running, followed by 25 minutes of power walking at a steep incline), but I'd really love to develop a full body routine that I can knock out each day I go (I try to go at least three times a week). Right now, it's just basic stuff like leg presses on leg day, bench presses, curls, and rows, but, again, I still feel kind of like a babe in the woods trying to figure out what's worth doing, what's most effective, etc.:lol

I also really need to find a gym buddy of some sort to act as a spotter and/or motivator.
 
Thanks! Yeah, I have to say: I'm a firm believer in the power of calorie counting. Carbs, sugar; I probably should pay more attention to that stuff, but I just watch my caloric intake and it seems like it's done a hell of a lot of work in my favor, and that's great! I turn 22 next week, and, honestly, this is probably the first time in my life that I feel capable. I wasn't fat all my life, but, even as a kid, I was the athsmatic kid in the class who couldn't do a push up, and that sort of compounded as I gained more weight.

I just started going to the gym not too long ago, and it's one of those things where I'm still trying to figure it out. I do 35 minutes of cardio each time (10 minutes of running, followed by 25 minutes of power walking at a steep incline), but I'd really love to develop a full body routine that I can knock out each day I go (I try to go at least three times a week). Right now, it's just basic stuff like leg presses on leg day, bench presses, curls, and rows, but, again, I still feel kind of like a babe in the woods trying to figure out what's worth doing, what's most effective, etc.:lol

I also really need to find a gym buddy of some sort to act as a spotter and/or motivator.

Macros may be considered important, calories are always #1. So it's good that's where your focus lies. Good job on the success.

Gym buddies can be good but also a distraction. Okay for spot on bench but other than that, I need people to be out of my gym space. ;)




 
Thanks! Yeah, I have to say: I'm a firm believer in the power of calorie counting. Carbs, sugar; I probably should pay more attention to that stuff, but I just watch my caloric intake and it seems like it's done a hell of a lot of work in my favor, and that's great! I turn 22 next week, and, honestly, this is probably the first time in my life that I feel capable. I wasn't fat all my life, but, even as a kid, I was the athsmatic kid in the class who couldn't do a push up, and that sort of compounded as I gained more weight.

Awesome man, I always loved how eating right and working out gives you a tremendous feeling of control over your life. I just recently started cutting out the sugar, its amazing how your appetite just flies out the window when you get off the stuff. I havent had a craving for so long. Ive also had some chronic problems that feel like theyre starting to go away. That sugar is some toxic stuff- kills your liver, shuts off your "Im full" meter, and opens you up to heart trouble and all kinds of diseases. Been switching to liquid stevia, date paste and other fruits as sweeteners. Gonna try not looking back!

but, again, I still feel kind of like a babe in the woods trying to figure out what's worth doing, what's most effective, etc.

I always took the Jeet Kun Do method with weightlifting. Make it personal, do what works best for you and discard the rest. Also, protect your joints at all costs. Any of you guys ever heard of MAPS? I just self diagnosed recently after reading some articles and never knowing what I had. I miss pullup marathons soooo much :(
 
Macros may be considered important, calories are always #1. So it's good that's where your focus lies. Good job on the success.

Gym buddies can be good but also a distraction. Okay for spot on bench but other than that, I need people to be out of my gym space. ;)





Thanks so much, and I must say, I'd probably have to agree with you. In the past, I was one of those guys who used them as a crutch; "oh, he's not going to the gym today; I guess that means I won't," and, ultimately, you're doomed to fail with that kind of mindset. All of the progress I've made to this point has been my own doing; it's been a solitary activity (unless you count my dog as a gym buddy, which...he certainly keeps me on my toes :lol), and it has to be because it's your life, and your lifestyle, and the only one that can change it is you. Music is my number one gym buddy, though. The right song can be an incredible motivator.

Awesome man, I always loved how eating right and working out gives you a tremendous feeling of control over your life. I just recently started cutting out the sugar, its amazing how your appetite just flies out the window when you get off the stuff. I havent had a craving for so long. Ive also had some chronic problems that feel like theyre starting to go away. That sugar is some toxic stuff- kills your liver, shuts off your "Im full" meter, and opens you up to heart trouble and all kinds of diseases. Been switching to liquid stevia, date paste and other fruits as sweeteners. Gonna try not looking back!



I always took the Jeet Kun Do method with weightlifting. Make it personal, do what works best for you and discard the rest. Also, protect your joints at all costs. Any of you guys ever heard of MAPS? I just self diagnosed recently after reading some articles and never knowing what I had. I miss pullup marathons soooo much :(

It really does. I'm not totally sugar free, but one of the best decisions of my life was cutting out regular pop. The Diet stuff gives me a fix when I need it, though I realize it's probably ****ing up my liver, but there are periods where I'll drink nothing but water and you just feel so much better. I realize there are other things about soda that are terrible for you, but the sugar was always just a massive weight, and, if I'm being honest, that was probably the biggest contributor to my weight over the years.
 
Thanks so much, and I must say, I'd probably have to agree with you. In the past, I was one of those guys who used them as a crutch; "oh, he's not going to the gym today; I guess that means I won't," and, ultimately, you're doomed to fail with that kind of mindset. All of the progress I've made to this point has been my own doing; it's been a solitary activity (unless you count my dog as a gym buddy, which...he certainly keeps me on my toes :lol), and it has to be because it's your life, and your lifestyle, and the only one that can change it is you. Music is my number one gym buddy, though. The right song can be an incredible motivator.



It really does. I'm not totally sugar free, but one of the best decisions of my life was cutting out regular pop. The Diet stuff gives me a fix when I need it, though I realize it's probably ****ing up my liver, but there are periods where I'll drink nothing but water and you just feel so much better. I realize there are other things about soda that are terrible for you, but the sugar was always just a massive weight, and, if I'm being honest, that was probably the biggest contributor to my weight over the years.

No it isn't.
 
Thanks! Yeah, I have to say: I'm a firm believer in the power of calorie counting. Carbs, sugar; I probably should pay more attention to that stuff, but I just watch my caloric intake and it seems like it's done a hell of a lot of work in my favor, and that's great! I turn 22 next week, and, honestly, this is probably the first time in my life that I feel capable. I wasn't fat all my life, but, even as a kid, I was the athsmatic kid in the class who couldn't do a push up, and that sort of compounded as I gained more weight.

I just started going to the gym not too long ago, and it's one of those things where I'm still trying to figure it out. I do 35 minutes of cardio each time (10 minutes of running, followed by 25 minutes of power walking at a steep incline), but I'd really love to develop a full body routine that I can knock out each day I go (I try to go at least three times a week). Right now, it's just basic stuff like leg presses on leg day, bench presses, curls, and rows, but, again, I still feel kind of like a babe in the woods trying to figure out what's worth doing, what's most effective, etc.:lol

I also really need to find a gym buddy of some sort to act as a spotter and/or motivator.

It's good that you're getting confident with it. It really is a state of mind once you put your time in it, and then you'll wonder how you lived any other way. I've been dealing with injuries off and on the last couple years, but I got a routine I'm good with and I'm currently changing things up since I feel I hit a wall with it. Bodybuilding really is an art. It takes time to find the right workouts that fit you. You'll get more self aware of your body as time goes on so you can work yourself to the fullest. The more muscle you have, the more calories you'll burn through the day to maintain it. So when you hit your goal weight, you could start packing on size by increasing your calories. But just be careful with that or you'll get fat like I did :lol just do it gradually.

There's plenty of Youtubers that give you full ranges of routines and different workouts for each muscle group. That's kinda where I got my first bit of information.

I don't really count calories religiously anymore. I know what I get roughly and I'm still trimming down, so it's working. It seems like you got a stranglehold on your weight loss so I don't think I could give you any advice in that area since if it's not broken, don't fix it.
 
Random comment but I always found that when I was at my biggest (muscle wise) it was really hard on my heart. My doctor told me that my heart didn't really notice a difference between muscle and fat with regards to BP. I had always assumed that if I was more muscular, that it was good for my heart. I mean it made sense later as I looked at how many big athletes and bodybuilders died early due to cardiac arrest (though that can also be attributed to chemical enhancements).
 
Well when you think about it, humans aren't supposed to be huge like that, so I can see why it would have that affect on some people.

With the IFBB competitors out there now, I'm surprised they aren't dropping dead on a regularly basis. Bloated stomachs from whatever the hell they're taking and mass that's just inhuman. Sure Arnold in his day was juicing, but look at him and guys today, they're like twice his size at his biggest.
 
Random comment but I always found that when I was at my biggest (muscle wise) it was really hard on my heart. My doctor told me that my heart didn't really notice a difference between muscle and fat with regards to BP. I had always assumed that if I was more muscular, that it was good for my heart. I mean it made sense later as I looked at how many big athletes and bodybuilders died early due to cardiac arrest (though that can also be attributed to chemical enhancements).

Being more muscular does nothing for your heart. It's your energy output that does. So things that get your heart beat up like the annoying HiiT training, jump rope, jogging. Etc. Those are the things (cardio) that aid in a healthy heart.
 
Being more muscular does nothing for your heart. It's your energy output that does. So things that get your heart beat up like the annoying HiiT training, jump rope, jogging. Etc. Those are the things (cardio) that aid in a healthy heart.

Where were you when I needed to know this back then? :lol
 
Anyone here ever got elbow tendonitis? I started working out again a few months ago. I've encorporated bicep curls, and tricep extensions a few times a week, but my right elbow's been sore for the longest time. I think I'll have to give it a break for now, and I've been wearing a copper compression brace. Also, I recently bought a pull up bar, but it doesn't look like I'll be able to use it for now.
 
I dealt with it in both my biceps and shoulders. Unfortunately it's one of those things that needs to run it's course over a few months. I was curling way to heavy which brought it out. Just keep icing it. If you're going to continue to curl, just use light weight with high reps.

EDIT: Look up stretches for it too, it definitely helped me cope with the pain more.
 
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It's good that you're getting confident with it. It really is a state of mind once you put your time in it, and then you'll wonder how you lived any other way. I've been dealing with injuries off and on the last couple years, but I got a routine I'm good with and I'm currently changing things up since I feel I hit a wall with it. Bodybuilding really is an art. It takes time to find the right workouts that fit you. You'll get more self aware of your body as time goes on so you can work yourself to the fullest. The more muscle you have, the more calories you'll burn through the day to maintain it. So when you hit your goal weight, you could start packing on size by increasing your calories. But just be careful with that or you'll get fat like I did :lol just do it gradually.

There's plenty of Youtubers that give you full ranges of routines and different workouts for each muscle group. That's kinda where I got my first bit of information.

I don't really count calories religiously anymore. I know what I get roughly and I'm still trimming down, so it's working. It seems like you got a stranglehold on your weight loss so I don't think I could give you any advice in that area since if it's not broken, don't fix it.

I actually really liked lifting when I did it before and it was one of those things that felt really good to get back into, upon going to the gym again. It's kind of funny because, maybe it's growing up the fat kid, but I always dreamed of being the dude with the 6 pack; yet, in my mind, it was always somebody else looking back at me in the mirror; like I was stepping into somebody else's shoes, but, for the first time in my life, I look on the mirror and I feel like that could be me; I can see that being me. I realize getting to that level with such a low percentage of body fat takes a lot of time, effort, and dedication, but I just feel like, for once in my life, I would like to tap into whatever potential there is and just, like, use every ounce of it.

Calorie counting is one of those things that I feel like you get good at over time. I have My Fitness Pal and stuff like that on my phone, and there are some weeks where I'll be logging every meal religiously and others where I can eyeball it and tell pretty accurately if I've had enough. I'm 6', so, my goal is to get down to 190 and then build myself back up to about 200.
 
After taking a break from working out for 6 months!(!), I finally resumed my workout routine after I was out of breath shipping out a statue, mortified that I could carry much heavier stuff all the way to the post office last year with ease.

The worst part was never the sore muscles or difficulty sleeping, it's maintaining the routine while balancing work. Here's hoping I'll finally commit!
 
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Where were you when I needed to know this back then? :lol

:rotfl Well, I'm here now. :)

I actually really liked lifting when I did it before and it was one of those things that felt really good to get back into, upon going to the gym again. It's kind of funny because, maybe it's growing up the fat kid, but I always dreamed of being the dude with the 6 pack; yet, in my mind, it was always somebody else looking back at me in the mirror; like I was stepping into somebody else's shoes, but, for the first time in my life, I look on the mirror and I feel like that could be me; I can see that being me. I realize getting to that level with such a low percentage of body fat takes a lot of time, effort, and dedication, but I just feel like, for once in my life, I would like to tap into whatever potential there is and just, like, use every ounce of it.

Calorie counting is one of those things that I feel like you get good at over time. I have My Fitness Pal and stuff like that on my phone, and there are some weeks where I'll be logging every meal religiously and others where I can eyeball it and tell pretty accurately if I've had enough. I'm 6', so, my goal is to get down to 190 and then build myself back up to about 200.

Eventually after a long time spent logging food and weighing and measuring, you'll be able to see food amounts without having to do all of that. And you'll return to a normal way of eating. It took me about 2 years of proper tracking but I no longer track. And I'm still losing fat without issue.

As for weight, muscle and 6 pack abs...just remember being that lean is actually not maintainable long term unless your genetics are just THAT good. Keeping a low body fat % means low calories (all the time) unless you are extremely muscular. I mean big! And even then, muscle only burns 6 cals/lb vs. the 2 that fat burns. So you never really get to eat 'that' much more food, even building more muscle.

SO first you need to build the muscle, which you can only do slightly in your noob phase, in a deficit. But once you surpass that noob phase, you'll need to start eating more calories to build actual muscle. Which means more food and proper progressive overload = new muscle. And then you have to diet down to reveal those abs. It's not fun, and basically everyone will tell you how crappy it is working so hard for so little. Again, you see those guys with 6 pack abs all of the time, most of them have damned good genes, or they are usually still in their bulk and cut cycles. So they don't reallllly have them all of the time.

My recommendation is don't fret over abs, and just keep doing your thing. Eventually you'll see your hard work pay off. Your abs will pop during training but any normal time of day, they will be asleep. :rotfl
 
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